I guess everybody is busy with their chainsaws and curb stomp that this great game goes unnoticed.
Dark Souls is building up a 90 score and sits in 2nd place just below Gears of War 3 in Metacritic.

maybe bcoz Demon Souls is PS3 exclusive..
so Dark Souls(successor of Demon Souls) get lesser attention with Xbox 360 gamer

meh, from the trailer looks boring...

stupid game

hmm bought the game, havent reach yet.

heard that, its extremely hard.

then again i m not so interested in an mmorpg game

huh... thought that if it is exclusive for ps3, it wouldnt release same time with xbox right?

You got it all wrong in this case, it's a complete game by playing offline/alone.

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Added on October 6, 2011, 11:05 amHe meant Demon's Souls was exclusive, Dark Souls is a spiritual sucessor to that game

This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Oct 6 2011, 11:05 AM

Dying lots of times?

This game is a masterpiece. Any rpg fan shouldn't miss this.

Actually Dark Souls is a PS3 exclusive in Japan but distributed by namco bandai for both 360 and PS3 in other regions. Release date was supposed to be Oct 4 here but I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive.

yes this is not an mmorpg lol.

was just joking. it isnt an mmorpg but the idea and dungeon design are like mmorpg designs

i played the demon souls for ps3, stop playing after 3 -6 deaths.

Yeah, it's not a game for everyone just like any other game

[quote=gundamalpha,Oct 6 2011, 11:04 AM]
You got it all wrong in this case, it's a complete game by playing offline/alone.

Can be played co-op online right?

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Added on October 6, 2011, 12:02 pm[quote=gundamalpha,Oct 6 2011, 11:04 AM]
You got it all wrong in this case, it's a complete game by playing offline/alone.

Can be played co-op online right?


This post has been edited by cychua85: Oct 6 2011, 12:02 PM

Yes, or invading other player's world. But everything is in the game whether it's offline/online

any person who likes to be abused by games shouldn't miss this.
This is the S&M of video games.

It's a great game if you like to discover things by yourself.

Granted some of DS mechanics are completely wtf by modern standards, the moment you defeat a boss (the ones that can 1-2hit kill you) is the most satisfying experience you can ever get from a game.


I will give it a try once it's cheaper. My Oct. purchases are already booked.

Kotaku stated that if you accept party chat while playing the game it will kick you back to dashboard, can anyone clarify this ?

not really interested in mmorpg

lol, why does everyone keep saying it's mmorpg? It's not, it's an action rpg with co-op elements. You don't even need to be online to play this game if you want to.

just got my copy along with RAGE this afternoon =) dont have time to try yet lol

Same here, picked it up this afternoon from GH. Thanks to this busy season I'll have a stack of incomplete games on my to do list by 2012.

Should definitely play this when you have completed your work or else you end up getting stressed up cause keep dying and then you rage quit. But after you quit then you cant concentrate on your work cause keep thinking of ideas how to kill the boss that you almost kill before this

you're probably right, already been killed by rats, skeletons, undead knights, flame bomb throwing zombies, and not to mention mini bosses. Something about the game keeps compelling me to return though. As it is, i'm at work looking online for playing tips..

Seeing a ghost just run around and then roll off an edge was... Interesting.

And as a parent playing this... When your kid cries... You're carrying a ton of souls, enemies around you... AND YOU CANT PAUSE! Just makes you stop and think if the kid can wait for a while...

Haha quite true, have to stop playing this game when your kid are awake before you lose your hard earned souls .

anyway those ghost are actually real players who are in the same area as you. A blood stain represents an image of a player before they die. Also if you see a bright white sign on the floor that means you can summon a player to coop with you. My experience is playing this game in PS3 but I think the concept should still be the same.

Yes, I know what the ghosts are, was just funny seeing a guy walk along a cliff then... Roll and fall off like he released the B button too early and rolled instead of sprint.

Haih you have no idea how a mistimed action can cause you. I was fighting a bunch of rat while behind me was a cliff when somehow i press the kick button, kicking while using a scimitar animation involves a backflip kick. Hence I backflip jumping into the cliff . The person who looks at my bloodstain probably will be enjoying himself laughing .

to anyone that play demon soul before on ps3. what is your recommendation for this title? 360 or ps3? my LIVE just expired. it will cost me a bomb.

Ya demons souls is ps3 exclusive and it been know as rpg not for faint hearted. I lost count how many times I died but rewarding when I completed it

I'm playing Dark Souls on PS3, if you want to have online experience you should go for PS3 then if you dont want to continue your LIVE account. I already tried coop with 2 other player as well as invading other player world which ended up to 2 vs 2 scenario, quite fun. Seems to be working fine with minor stuttering, not a major problem for me.

Not sure how LIVE online experience for this game, not many here tried this game yet.

Son. even if u r dying toooo many times, rest youe soull at the spoiler belows

I think I know the spot you are talking about, I took out the orange stone to write a message recommending people to just flee the poisonous rats. Then I forgot that I need to use DPAD to navigate the list, nearly backed off the cliff! After wiping my forehead of the sudden shock of nearly falling off.... the rats came out to bite me!!!

Those rats have a chance of dropping humanity though...

That's why I just run like hell away from them instead of trying to kill them

Well an easy way to kill them is lure them outside and you stand with your back towards the wall. Hit them once they would usually fall down the cliff and you'll get some soul hehe, though you would miss the chance to get some humanity drop from one of the rats though

PRAISE THE SUN!!! I made it to another bon fire!!

Just to say that I emphatise with your earlier point on the game lacking a pause function. Having a howling baby while you're trying to recover the souls+humanity that you dropped because you died earlier is very tense. Good thing is there are lots of safe zones where you can just park your character.

Ok, after being told by my friend.

You can QUIT THE GAME and restore at ALMOST the same point. I DO NOT know if your blood stain will be kept though!

just bought my dark souls from 1 of the forumer as well..been so stressed n yet addictive playing the game for the past few days lol..

hav a question, any1 know how to kill off the skeletons that keep reviving no matter time i kill them..dam frustrating ==

I like the way online play effects the game, even though I've not summoned anyone yet or been invaded by phantoms, I've gotten random vagrants (crablike things which shoot laserz! which are supposed to come about from other players dropping stuff or losing their souls/humanity.

On another note the black knight avatar outfit is pretty awesome http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-SG/Product/...d083a?cid=SLink

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Added on October 10, 2011, 4:52 pmYou mean the ones in the catacombs? You need to use weapons which do magic damage was what I was told when I was watching a friend play. I personally got killed so many times by the skeletons in the graveyard near the starting zone...

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Oct 10 2011, 04:52 PM

How many DVDs in the X360 version. Diff between X360 and PS3 version? Picture quality etc.

same, 1 CD. I'm not sure how it looks on the PS3, but it looks good to me on xbox

Hmm worth a look then. Wanted to try out Demon Soul when it came out but didnt have PS3 so i guess this is giving me a chance to see what the hype is all about.

i see..after some googling around, i realized that i am venturing tat part too early already, shud go to the other way first lol

Be warned though, this game is quite harsh. Dont expect a simple hack n slash like devil may cry.

Yes, that part is really tough earlier on, I kept dying over there as well lol.

Just joined the forest hunter covenant and thanks to that I've been involved in some lopsided pvp action with my forest friends. It's quite fun and the netcode seems to work quite well - although there were 2 times where i failed to connect.

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Added on October 10, 2011, 10:08 pmI think everyone makes the same mistakes lol

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Oct 10 2011, 10:08 PM

More Oblivion like?

Not really, action is never far away unlike in oblivion where you can wander for ages without combat. In this game there are a lot of enemies that can kill you if you rush in all rambo like, you have to understand your enemies - because even the common mobs can kill you if you're unprepared.

The quests are not signposted, so no floating question marks and exclamation points. The open world hub is big and it's very easy to get lost in and also very easy to go to a zone that you're too low leveled for.

Sounds like a medieval Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon("the all original ones, not the dumbed down iterations ").

The way u described, seems like exploration, harks the days of Ultima, when all quests are written down on pencil and paper and time spent looking for the correct npc to invoke quests and such. Very nice.

Funny you mentioned that, I was actually comparing this with ultima 4 the other day (but no one knew what i was talking about) where you quest to become the avatar.. i think there's an analogy here where your humanity is somehow something you want to keep - although that's not clearly explained. The mobs in ultima aren't as cruel though

The open world as i understand is a bit metrovania - where the more you explore and do, the more zones you unlock but like i mentioned earlier, you can still go to places you're not supposed to and for me that's a brilliant design choice.

You can play as a single player but as long as you're online, you are also effected by the online choices that other players make in the form of clues and bloodstains from people who have died there. You can co-op but you can't co-op with your friends (unless you randomly find him) and you can pvp online.

Also, if you accidentally kill an npc - they remain dead in the game. And you can't cheat the system as the game is constantly autosaving.

OOoo love ultima 4. Actually ultima 4's version of the mob(if i understand from the description of it in this thread) is when u encounter a monster and u dun wana fight and ur running away and there is the tension of the monster reaching u coz the terrains determines if u can move or not in a turn and all of a sudden another group of monsters come into the picture and now ure trying to run away from this monsters too, is somewat like the mob? I guess?? lol

I assume the Dark souls just starts you off on character creation and then the game...no menu for multiplayer etc.?

They all have fixed spawn positions so you can see them, most of the time. Trouble is whenever you rest at campfires, they respawn at those fixed positions. They trigger when you move into range, so if you run in like a headless chicken you might attract a whole bunch of mobs you didn't see earlier and you'll either be running away like in those old benny hill comedies or you'll be dead.

As long as you go into the game with the expectation that you will die - a lot, you should enjoy the game.

The difference between ultima iv and any game made today is that you have the internet to help you. I remember going over to my friends place and playing the game on his apple II and just exploring having no idea what the moons meant or how to get the more exotic ingredients for the advanced spells.

Made my day reading this line. I'm getting it, trying to get pre-owned copy from LYNers.

Anyone giving up?

at this rate, there shud be many gonna sell it soon haha..I just got my pre-owned dark souls the other day from 1 of the forumer here as well lol

well if we can finish ultima 1>9 i dont think we will have problem finishing this game. after all games from those time are much harder compare to games in this time.

u havent tried this game yet...i swipe..u die.......i bite....u die......

didnt have the time to start yet =P

I managed to get the Drake Sword! Very powerful at the start.. but seems like it's EXTREMELY fragile!

I've been using the drake sword for quite a while but I have had no problems with the durability - unless you're using it as a 2 handed weapon and pressing RT a lot which will eat up the durability. I play differently using a shield and wielding the DS 1 handed so it lasts as long as any other weapon - and i tend to use it for back stabbing. My problem problem with the drake sword is that it's too powerful at the start and you become over reliant on it that it becomes too difficult to find a nice replacement for it. The other major problem is that it doesn't scale at all with your stats.

Anyway, I'm away on business so i have to take a break from dieing for a week

Im wondering if anyone can share his experience in performance & graphic wise on both versions i.e: Xbox or PS3? Im in dilemma choosing which version to buy? Would appreciate if someone could enlighten me. Im quite skeptical in graphic wise though...

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by stanleyow: Oct 17 2011, 01:04 PM

both console sharing the same graphic, but, you might experiences frame rate drop to 20 in some area, same happen to PS3 too.

The game is not hard, the only thing you have to learn is blocking or dodge heavy atk, and try not to aggro too much enemy.

Also, if you check in the PS3 thread, you'll find that quite a few users experiencing stuttering and freezing while connected online.

Walbur, I saw you playing this game mostly, cause you're in my friend list aka Kira76. Nevertheless I have decided to get a Xbox version instead because I always believe Xbox can deliver better performance and graphic compared to PS3. Have ordered my copy and getting it tonite. Thanks for guide...

My main problem is that I keep forgeting to BLOCK shit! hahahaha.

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Added on October 17, 2011, 3:47 pmOr I keep forgetting that I'm not invincible in a roll and I need to worry about where I end up AFTER the roll

This post has been edited by marauderz: Oct 17 2011, 03:47 PM

Performance and graphic wise is not the main issue for this game. You should ask which console has a more sturdier controller as lots of people end up throwing their controller in rage after losing tons of souls .

The stuttering in PS3 can be solved by playing offline. Not sure if xbox live is affected like that during online play.

Best still , mastering backstab move . Satisfaction guarantee .

Just circle circle and circle around , splatttt

This post has been edited by Breaktru: Oct 17 2011, 09:16 PM

I can't imagine playing the game offline.. going online on the xbox version definitely does not result in stuttering even on my pathetic 1mb streamyx connection.

A good way to gain the courage to explore new area. Put down your white stone summon sign in new area. If someone summons your for co-op then you are in luck, you can scout the area without losing anything if you die, you just go back to the last bonfire that you rest before dying.

I wonder is it easier to summon ppl on Xbox than PS3...

If I'm hollow, and I write using the white summon stone. Can I still be summoned? Wasn't very clear about that description

Yes you can be summoned. You need to be human if you want to be able to see other people summon sign, hence you need to be in human form if you want to be able to summon other player to coop. You also need to be in human form if you want to invade other player using the cracked red eye orb.

You can still invade as hollow if you're a member of the

summons are random though.

gosh..., I don't know how many times I die just to kill Havel The Rock, instead can kill Demon Taurus at 1 try, but really addicted to this game, even not bother to test Arkham City..

I already lost count how many times i swear and curse playing this game

Any idea at what level then only challenge Black Knight or Havel Rock? Now Im merely 17 only. And which area should I level up?

Both of them are quite easy. Just circle behind them with the shield up whenever they attack and backstab.

I managed to defeat Black Knight, but I noticed my damage to Havel Rock quite low i.e. 32+ only. With such damage, guess I might backstab till my hand tire also can't defeat him. Perhaps shall I raise my level higher?

Or you could try to upgrade your weapon

Im still new to DS, need to find more details on upgrading weapon and Im not sure whether worth to upgrade weapon at this moment? Because so many weapons coming later..

Wuah I thought you are pro already in this game bro hehehe . But then again in this game how matter good you are, there's always a way for us to find a way to get ourselves killed lol.

Anyway to upgrade a weapon you need to find a blacksmith and have some titanite shards in your loot, this item can be bought for 800 souls from the blacksmith so nothing to worry about. Then just pick any weapon you like to upgrade.

Edit:
Just found this upgrade pathway via google lol, cheers

Link

This post has been edited by soul_fly9900: Oct 20 2011, 09:15 AM

IF you have problems or don't understand anything just check out dark souls wiki. They got plenty of info regarding weapons and armors and stuff.

Can I suggest we create a Dark Souls player list here? So all Xbox DS players can add/invite each other. Think this will make the game more lively.... Perhaps constantly update on their level will be great.


example:

GT: johnboy [lvl 36]

You can't invite your friends into the game for co-op. It's all random.

what about be in a party? then both search for players?

Game kicks U out if ur in a party

sorry posted wrongly

This post has been edited by jack123jack: Oct 20 2011, 08:01 PM

Guys, how many strong arrows should I buy enough to take down Red Dragon?

Thanks

If you want to cut its tail, 20. If you want to kill it, 1 if you know how.

1 is if you shoot from some other tower in the head right?

If I shoot till half way but run out of arrows and soul, then I rest at bonfire just to let the enemies respawn, will the Red Dragon damaged remains?

The dragon's damage does not remain. Anyway, i bought about 100 of the cheapest arrows to get the aiming right and about 20 of the strong ones - what i realise is that you actually have to hit the tail and you'll get confirmation when the tail moves away and then back into position. It's also possible to cut off the tail using melee attacks. Funnily enough, the dragon committed suicide on my run and rewarded me with 10k souls.

I managed to shot off the tail already. Now wana kill the Red Dragon only. Can still use arrows to kill it or must shoot the head from tower? If shoot under bridge, roughly require how many arrows? I have difficulty to defeat the Tower Black Knight, the damage is just unbearable...

Thanks

use the dragon sword you've gotten. Use the double handed RT attack to chip away at him. When he chases you. FLEE down the tower, he doesn't chase you very far... at least not in my game.

Any tips for beating Black Knight(Undead Parish)? Totally no idea/strategy to beat him. Now Im lvl25 with Drake Sword. Or my level still consider low to challenge him?

This post has been edited by stanleyow: Oct 21 2011, 09:10 PM

Put your shield up, and circle to the right around him. When he attacks get behind him and backstab. Since you've gotten the Drake Sword killing the Black Knight is easy.

Thanks for tips, managed to beat him already. Any tips on Channeler? Can't find its HP data...

For the chapel part, just stand where the fire keeper soul is and use bow and arrow. Channeler is pretty weak, you just need to dodge it's soul arrow.

Guess I mistaken already, what I meant was the Big Knight inside the Chapel. Any tips to take him down?

The tower knight can't be backstabbed but you can still use the same tactic used on the black knight. Pay attention on the stamina bar and you should be fine.

Employ this tactic to all the enemies and you will be fine. It even work on the bosses as well.

hi just join in the game. play offline only. no money subcribe live yet. haih. game also borrow.