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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2011, Chelsea 1- 2 Liverpool - Maxi+Johnson!

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NicholasNick
post Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM

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Suarez better than Torres the 50mil machine smile.gif
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QUOTE(NicholasNick @ Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM)
Suarez better than Torres the 50mil machine smile.gif
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They're both different type of strikers. Torres is good with sudden burst of pace and finishing, while Suarez have more tricks, football brain & attitudes.

Seeing how Chelsea played their last 3 games, I'm sure Torres will start banging goals with those services.
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nah, Suarez's reaction are pretty normal. whether he fake it or not, im not sure.. but obviously there's strong contact.. its reasonable either way..

Rodwell tackle are 'perfect' for me.. take out opponent most influential player and do it legally..

the ref f***ed up big time.. he need to be suspend /demote to lower league next game.. i switched off to Selangor's game after the sending off..

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Oct 3 2011, 08:09 AM)
nah, Suarez's reaction are pretty normal. whether he fake it or not, im not sure.. but obviously there's strong contact.. its reasonable either way..

Rodwell tackle are 'perfect' for me.. take out opponent most influential player and do it legally..

the ref f***ed up big time.. he need to be suspend /demote to lower league next game.. i switched off to Selangor's game after the sending off..
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oh? but i still watching it after that. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Oct 3 2011, 08:09 AM)
the ref f***ed up big time.. he need to be suspend /demote to lower league next game.. i switched off to Selangor's game after the sending off..
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Hope you enjoyed Selangor game....i certainly enjoyed Liverpool's win over the Bitters! whistling.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:30 AM

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Not an impressive win though. Did not display the performance from the 2nd half of the season.
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(NicholasNick @ Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM)
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Different style. Torres has better finish, balance, and burst. While Suarez has better technique, tricks and dribble. IMO, Suarez has horrible balance. He fell a lot of times when there were contact. But in terms of wanting the ball and wanting to score, Suarez is way up there far from Torres.

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 2 2011, 03:23 PM)
The Good
Happy to see Dirk Kuyt start. It was a wise decision given the threat of Leighton Baines. Can't blame him for the penalty miss as it was a good save from Howard. Good also to see Martin Kelly back. He had a solid game and one reason why Tim Cahill's kangaroo impressions only earned him one clear opportunity off his nut. Less I'm mistaken, Kelly was marking him during corners. I'm a big fan of Kelly and I imagine he'll make the England senior team by the end of the season if he can stay healthy. Carra has a good game as well. He was strong in the air and with exception of the occasion where he and Skrtel backed off Saha to present the Frenchman with too much room, he marshaled the defence pretty well. Jose Enrique had another good game and once again, you have to ask why he hasn't earned an international cap yet? I mean even Arbeloa who is a right sided player gets picked ahead of him. Baffling. Another player worth a mention is non other than Luis Suarez. He's been a revelation since signing for us and was once again a live wire up front. Was gifted a goal in the end by Distin and finished with aplomb.

The Bad
Well may "bad" is too strong a word but here are players I don't think had a good game. Carroll offered little with the exception of his goal. I think he spent more time out wide than he did in the Everton box. Adam had a quiet game and until he thumped Tim Howard's goal post, I forgot he was on the pitch. Stuart Downing was surprisingly innefective as well. Linked up well with Enrique but his delivery was off the mark on a number of occasions. Stayed out wide was much of the match to my dismay.

The Ugly
Martin Atkinson has a reputation of being card happy which can sour derbies and it kinda did last night. The Merseyside derby has produced more red cards than any other Premiership fixture and you just knew that Mr. Atkinson was going to flash someone a red. In truth, it was a harsh decision and Suarez made the most of it but you know what? I could care less. It's about time we had the rub of the green after having had several decisions go against us in recent games. There are few sights I like more than the vision of Tim Cahill in misery.

Not always easy on the eye but it was a derby after all and it had all the ingredients of one - crunching tackles, flared tempers, Tim Cahill being a ****, and bitters throwing rubbish on their own pitch no less. Always thought that Woodison was a dump.
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you forgot one more thing, Duke. Remember last season when they downed us 2-0 they were singing "going down, going down", this time we really made a payback with a big interest in return!


About Suarez and Torres; you can't compare them. I still think that had Torres was a little more patient we'll probably see Suarez+Torres, which would have been full of potentials and possibilities.

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 3 2011, 01:25 PM)
About Suarez and Torres; you can't compare them. I still think that had Torres was a little more patient we'll probably see Suarez+Torres, which would have been full of potentials and possibilities.
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I agree that players can be different even if they play in the same position but at some point, one has to be able to make a comparison. I think managers say it best when they say they want to sign the "right" players and not necessarily the "best" players. In the end, we're looking for someone who is a better fit for our team. If you ask me who fits us best, I'd have to say Luis Suarez but this isn't because Torres left. I still think Torres is a quality striker and his first season with us was arguably his best. He really hit the ground running and defenders struggled to match his pace and strength. The problem was that he is more individualistic and whenever he was out with injury or was being rested, we struggled to score goals. Luis Suarez may not as prolific but he can create opportunities for for his teammates. His pass to Dirk Kuyt who finished from centimeters out against the Mancs after a mazy run is a prime example.

Would have been nice to see them both up front of course but alas, it wasn't meant to be. I really think Torres would have flourished playing next to someone like Suarez who can create space and goalscoring chances for him.


Added on October 3, 2011, 1:51 pm
QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 3 2011, 01:25 PM)
About Suarez and Torres; you can't compare them. I still think that had Torres was a little more patient we'll probably see Suarez+Torres, which would have been full of potentials and possibilities.
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I agree that players can be different even if they play in the same position but at some point, one has to be able to make a comparison. I think managers say it best when they say they want to sign the "right" players and not necessarily the "best" players. In the end, we're looking for someone who is a better fit for our team. If you ask me who fits us best, I'd have to say Luis Suarez but this isn't because Torres left. I still think Torres is a quality striker and his first season with us was arguably his best. He really hit the ground running and defenders struggled to match his pace and strength. The problem was that he is more individualistic and whenever he was out with injury or was being rested, we struggled to score goals. Luis Suarez may not as prolific but he can create opportunities for for his teammates. His pass to Dirk Kuyt who finished from centimeters out against the Mancs after a mazy run is a prime example.

Would have been nice to see them both up front of course but alas, it wasn't meant to be. I really think Torres would have flourished playing next to someone like Suarez who can create space and goalscoring chances for him.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 3 2011, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(NicholasNick @ Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM)
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your main man is not caroll ?
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Oct 3 2011, 08:09 AM)
nah, Suarez's reaction are pretty normal. whether he fake it or not, im not sure.. but obviously there's strong contact.. its reasonable either way..

Rodwell tackle are 'perfect' for me.. take out opponent most influential player and do it legally..

the ref f***ed up big time.. he need to be suspend /demote to lower league next game.. i switched off to Selangor's game after the sending off..
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You sound quite bitter.
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:00 PM

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can't wait next game against Manchester...
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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Oct 3 2011, 01:53 PM)
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they can say whay they like

last time when torres still in anfield

torres > anyone ... laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:50 PM

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BTW, was Meireiles involved in Chelsea's win last night? didn't watch the game....was he good?

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 2 2011, 03:23 PM)
The Good
Happy to see Dirk Kuyt start. It was a wise decision given the threat of Leighton Baines. Can't blame him for the penalty miss as it was a good save from Howard. Good also to see Martin Kelly back. He had a solid game and one reason why Tim Cahill's kangaroo impressions only earned him one clear opportunity off his nut. Less I'm mistaken, Kelly was marking him during corners. I'm a big fan of Kelly and I imagine he'll make the England senior team by the end of the season if he can stay healthy. Carra has a good game as well. He was strong in the air and with exception of the occasion where he and Skrtel backed off Saha to present the Frenchman with too much room, he marshaled the defence pretty well. Jose Enrique had another good game and once again, you have to ask why he hasn't earned an international cap yet? I mean even Arbeloa who is a right sided player gets picked ahead of him. Baffling. Another player worth a mention is non other than Luis Suarez. He's been a revelation since signing for us and was once again a live wire up front. Was gifted a goal in the end by Distin and finished with aplomb.


Mr Enrique for me is the New player of the season thus far

a) Composed on the ball
b) Hard to steal the ball from
c) Tons of energy
d) Good crosser
e) At 6mil....wow!

Watch the cross for Carrol's goal from the byline again....even John Barnes would have been proud of that! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 3 2011, 02:50 PM)
BTW, was Meireiles involved in Chelsea's win last night? didn't watch the game....was he good?
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He was....and as usual, very influential in his holding role assigned to him.
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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 3 2011, 02:50 PM)
BTW, was Meireiles involved in Chelsea's win last night? didn't watch the game....was he good?
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Easy goals. No complicated passing or tactic by Chelsea. He was kinda quiet the whole match....
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That's because he was playing the holding role. smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 09:39 PM

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Ancelooti want Liverpool jobs... smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 09:45 PM

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Lulz. Once you taste the feel of being in the PL, you can't go back. Just look at Rafa. Desperate to come back to Liverpool. But it is a very intriguing idea though. Imagining Liverpool under CA. Or Jose Mourinho tongue.gif

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...ol-jobs?cc=4716

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