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post Oct 16 2011, 12:56 PM

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For all i read in other forum the visiting fans sang the hillsborough song. c*nts!

Though i really love the FIVE hand sign by stevie. My mates that watch with me last night was fuming with rage. Gave me a frickin big smile.
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post Oct 16 2011, 12:57 PM

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Nothing I like more than a good debate. The reason I don't bother visiting their thread anymore however is because the vast majority can't debate. Those that can come into our thread and for that, I respect them. The rest however think that argument winning arguments consist of, "we are better because we are Mancs", type statements. Kinda like how Shabery won his debate against Anwar a couple of years back. Syiok sendiri


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QUOTE(rushmode @ Oct 16 2011, 12:56 PM)
For all i read in other forum the visiting fans sang the hillsborough song. c*nts!

Though i really love the FIVE hand sign by stevie. My mates  that watch with me last night was fuming with rage. Gave me a frickin big smile.
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Says a lot that red nose had to tell their fans to show some respect prior to the game. Apparently they didn't heed his advice.

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post Oct 16 2011, 01:04 PM

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hey..we we better on 2nd half, have several opportunity to score, like Kuyt and Henderson. But De Gea was superb at right time and right place..duhhh....!!
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post Oct 16 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Oct 16 2011, 01:04 PM)
hey..we we better on 2nd half, have several opportunity to score, like Kuyt and Henderson. But De Gea was superb at right time and right place..duhhh....!!
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Thing is they prefer to focus on Evra whining the whole game instead of De Gea's stellar performance. I think we pay more compliment to De Gea than they do as a matter of fact and that says a lot about their focus.

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post Oct 16 2011, 01:15 PM

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Lovely. This is what entertainment is all about. Exchanging of opinions, controversies, arguments and many more. This thread is now so lively. Thanks to both sides of supporters. LOL.

Just to take a final dig at Man Utd fans - We did better than you yeterday and Ryan Giggs did us a big favor. Send our gratitude to him.

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post Oct 16 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Oct 16 2011, 08:18 AM)
average?which teams?our teams?average means half table teams...you always talk nonsense dude doh.gif
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not talking nonsense.. the team is solid but still dont have the factor to be the best.. we only control the game but cant kill the game early.. the width/pace/fluidity still not there yet.. all the player need to start strengthen now and find out their speciality or we'll be in trouble on away game like manc/villa/newcastle..

rite now i'll really happy with enrique.. quality player with pace,skill,pass at a cheap price.. wonder why spain still not rate him
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post Oct 16 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 16 2011, 11:28 AM)
Let's put things in perspective shall we? First off, we didn't claim to be the "real reds", it's you mancs that do. Like I pointed out in a post yesterday however, we first wore red in 1892 while you lot only did in 1902, duh!

Secondly, I agree with redshaun on the comment about there being many retards. Now, I'll gladly put my hand up if we had lost, I have always done so but last night we came out guns blazing in the 2nd half. There is no argument who played better but fairplay, you don't always win although you played the better game. Sometimes you need to grind out a result. If the situation were reversed, only a dumb f*** manc would agree that they didn't play better, and there are many out there unfortunately i.e. young punks supporting the flavour of the month, giving real fans a bad bad name.

It was a stonewall penalty in my opinion. How Andre Marriner failed to spot it is beyond my comprehension. My mates were arguing that it was ball to hand? Fooking hell, really? Evans was at least 5 yards away from Kuyt and he left his hand there. So if Pepe had launched a rocket from inside our on half and Evans left his hand there, it would still be ball to hand? That's retarded. Biased opinion. Am I complaining however? No, it happens. Sometimes you get the rub of the green and sometimes you don't. It just pisses me off that my mates won't admit it. I mean Downing dived, I admit to it so be a man and fess up. It was a penalty and it wasn't given but that's how games go and over 38 games, your luck evens out.
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Duke, do you reckon that United should get the pen when the ball hit Enrique's hand? Twice, arm and his hand. No call, Marriner's fault and inept?

First of all, none of us are MANCS, you need to get that facht right. We are ALL MALAYSIANS/SINGAPOREANS, be it you and me.

Secondly, I think I've read most of your and other Pool fans comments on diving and blablabla. What are your takes on Suarez, Downing and Adam? Well, I am not saying either Ronaldo and Nani didn't make a meal of challenges but last night, even for Pool's standard, was a disgrace. Especially on Adam's, he was like waiting for the chance to come and *bam* Ferdinand offered him. Marriner bought it.

That said, the game was more like 50-50 to me. Although at times, Pool looked like the more dangerous team. Yet, neither Downing or Enrique had the best of Smalling. He pawned both of them, IMO. How did Gerrard got the MOTM was beyond me.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Oct 16 2011, 01:20 PM)
Duke, do you reckon that United should get the pen when the ball hit Enrique's hand? Twice, arm and his hand. No call, Marriner's fault and inept?

First of all, none of us are MANCS, you need to get that facht right. We are ALL MALAYSIANS/SINGAPOREANS, be it you and me.

Secondly, I think I've read most of your and other Pool fans comments on diving and blablabla. What are your takes on Suarez, Downing and Adam? Well, I am not saying either Ronaldo and Nani didn't make a meal of challenges but last night, even for Pool's standard, was a disgrace. Especially on Adam's, he was like waiting for the chance to come and *bam* Ferdinand offered him. Marriner bought it.

That said, the game was more like 50-50 to me. Although at times, Pool looked like the more dangerous team. Yet, neither Downing or Enrique had the best of Smalling. He pawned both of them, IMO. How did Gerrard got the MOTM was beyond me.
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1) If Man U had a penalty because of Enrique then we should have gotten a penalty as well - the ref set a precedent he should (and did) follow
2) Suarez and Downing did dive, no one disputed that. Suarez is known to be a bad boy. Adam did NOT dive, he made a meal of the challenge, but the very fact that there was a challenge indicates that it wasn't a dive, it was a clumsy and lazy challenge by Ferdinand.
3) You and everyone else know very well what we mean when we say 'mancs' - no need to point out the obvious
4) I agreed that Smalling did superbly well against Downing, Enrique however, gave smalling some trouble.
5) Liverpool did well is shutting off Young (who IMO has been Man U's best player apart from Rooney).

at the end of the day Im happy with the result and so should manu fans. Fergie got it wrong for not fielding the trio.
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post Oct 16 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Oct 16 2011, 01:20 PM)
Duke, do you reckon that United should get the pen when the ball hit Enrique's hand? Twice, arm and his hand. No call, Marriner's fault and inept?

First of all, none of us are MANCS, you need to get that facht right. We are ALL MALAYSIANS/SINGAPOREANS, be it you and me.

Secondly, I think I've read most of your and other Pool fans comments on diving and blablabla. What are your takes on Suarez, Downing and Adam? Well, I am not saying either Ronaldo and Nani didn't make a meal of challenges but last night, even for Pool's standard, was a disgrace. Especially on Adam's, he was like waiting for the chance to come and *bam* Ferdinand offered him. Marriner bought it.

That said, the game was more like 50-50 to me. Although at times, Pool looked like the more dangerous team. Yet, neither Downing or Enrique had the best of Smalling. He pawned both of them, IMO. How did Gerrard got the MOTM was beyond me.
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If you read my comments earlier you'd note that I said Downing dived and Suarez does play act. No arguments from me. Can't fathom why some of your kin can't admit to the same thing.

As for the handballs it is in my honest opinion that Enrique's was a case of ball to hand. Even your own players didn't protest which speaks volumes. You may say I'm biased but I've always called it like I see it. I've always fessed up if I thought we were lucky or if one of ours dived.

Mancs to me are fans of youse. Even if you google the definition, there isn't a conclusive one. Hence I'll use it as I see fit. If you do google it's definition you'll find some less than wonderful definitions and even I won't use them.

The first half was 50-50 but the fact that we give De Gea praise says we had the better chances in the second half. When did Pepe have to make a save. I don't think it's that hard to show a little humility.

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post Oct 16 2011, 01:31 PM

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before those mancs come and accuse our player racist , lets have a look on what their captain done b4 in last few years

1st case

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2nd case

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I will not defend Suarez if he is guilty with the racist remark but lets not forget their captain have a record of being a cheater and accuser.

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QUOTE(leaF @ Oct 16 2011, 01:31 PM)
before those mancs come and accuse our player racist , lets have a look on what their captain done b4 in last few years

1st case
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I will not defend Suarez if he is guilty with the racist remark but lets not forget their captain have a record of being a cheater and accuser.
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Good job. I wish more people indulged in fact finding exercises before posting drivel.

Lets wait for evidence this time round. If Suarez were really racist, Glen Johnson would have twatted him by now.

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post Oct 16 2011, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Oct 16 2011, 01:20 PM)
Duke, do you reckon that United should get the pen when the ball hit Enrique's hand? Twice, arm and his hand. No call, Marriner's fault and inept?

First of all, none of us are MANCS, you need to get that facht right. We are ALL MALAYSIANS/SINGAPOREANS, be it you and me.

Secondly, I think I've read most of your and other Pool fans comments on diving and blablabla. What are your takes on Suarez, Downing and Adam? Well, I am not saying either Ronaldo and Nani didn't make a meal of challenges but last night, even for Pool's standard, was a disgrace. Especially on Adam's, he was like waiting for the chance to come and *bam* Ferdinand offered him. Marriner bought it.

That said, the game was more like 50-50 to me. Although at times, Pool looked like the more dangerous team. Yet, neither Downing or Enrique had the best of Smalling. He pawned both of them, IMO. How did Gerrard got the MOTM was beyond me.
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hahahahhaa......u sure smalling pawned them??? u actually watch the match? he committed a schoolboy error one on one against suarez when sliding in and get nth in the end.

anyway. its good alone to see Gerrard bac and scoring.and undermine how important he is to our gameplay.and even more so when you know the supposedly best team in the country came into our field afraid of losing a match. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Let me be Michael Moores for a minute. Btw if any manc wants to comment, please google Michael Moores first to understand my post. Does anyone reckon that one reason Fergie rested his stars was because of what Rafa said? Mind games from our former gaffer perhaps? It's way out there but like I said, let me be Michael Moores for a second.
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post Oct 16 2011, 01:40 PM

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enrique 'hand' ball was like ball to shoulder to hand. while evans is more clear ball to hand. though i personally think it didnt matter much when the ref not giving the penalty for both coz i think kinda soft penalty to give.

evra has been playing the 'race' card couple of times before. and all was ruled out. and i dont think suarez is a racist though.. he played in eradivise for quite a while to be a racist prick... banyak nigres sana. lol.
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If you want a Sunday laugh, go to their thread. Its hilarious.

Taking snipes at our team, the fans and even Duke on a personal level.

a bunch of sad souls who will be donning a different jersey when their team stops winning the league.

Maybe when Manu stop being in the summit these lot will be donning the colours of Manchester.... City.
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QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 16 2011, 10:47 AM)
Haha... Liverpool fans and man united will always have their own opinion and will continue to argue for the decade to come...

Anyway .... GG to you guyz... Liverpool had played well as this is Anfield not OT...
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OH please leongtat, never heard of home advantage before? New to football? sweat.gif
Of course you dont rclxub.gif

QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Oct 16 2011, 11:56 AM)
at least please make a proper comparison.. nani's case was a potential leg breaking tackle by carragher.. adam's one was.......a touch on the sock? wink.gif
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Generally you should know what Nani will act on the ground nod.gif
Regardless of weather Adam's foul is soft or too soft, remember, R.Ferdinand did challenge for the ball, same goes to the challenge to Suarez.. I do not understand why he is fuming about the reff's call..
Its simple, you challenge, you didnt get the ball, its a foul..


Talk about Evra.. Guess we know what a player is he..
Look what have happened to his international career. A captain for ManU? Disgrace sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 16 2011, 01:29 PM)
1) If Man U had a penalty because of Enrique then we should have gotten a penalty as well - the ref set a precedent he should (and did) follow
2) Suarez and Downing did dive, no one disputed that. Suarez is known to be a bad boy. Adam did NOT dive, he made a meal of the challenge, but the very fact that there was a challenge indicates that it wasn't a dive, it was a clumsy and lazy challenge by Ferdinand.
3) You and everyone else know very well what we mean when we say 'mancs' - no need to point out the obvious
4) I agreed that Smalling did superbly well against Downing, Enrique however, gave smalling some trouble.
5) Liverpool did well is shutting off Young (who IMO has been Man U's best player apart from Rooney).

at the end of the day Im happy with the result and so should manu fans. Fergie got it wrong for not fielding the trio.
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I'm more than happy with the result. Don't get me wrong. But to say that Fergie got it wrong for not fielding Anderson, Nani and Rooney is a bit debatable. With the Euro qualifiers midweek, UCL midweek and City next weekend. He had to plan for the best.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 16 2011, 01:31 PM)
If you read my comments earlier you'd note that I said Downing dived and Suarez does play act. No arguments from me. Can't fathom why some of your kin can't admit to the same thing.

As for the handballs it is in my honest opinion that Enrique's was a case of ball to hand. Even your own players didn't protest which speaks volumes. You may say I'm biased but I've always called it like I see it. I've always fessed up if I thought we were lucky or if one of ours dived.

Mancs to me are fans of youse. Even if you google the definition, there isn't a conclusive one. Hence I'll use it as I see fit. If you do google it's definition you'll find some less than wonderful definitions and even I won't use them.

The first half was 50-50 but the fact that we give De Gea praise says we had the better chances in the second half. When did Pepe have to make a save. I don't think it's that hard to show a little humility.
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De Gea is a good GK despite all of those stupid remarks made by media early of the season. He's young and learning. To have him as our best player last night, says a lot about the team's ability in containing the ball and move forward. Which at times, very disappointing, especially for someone whom has played for loooonnnnggg time, Ryan Giggs.

QUOTE(chaukeng @ Oct 16 2011, 01:38 PM)
hahahahhaa......u sure smalling pawned them??? u actually watch the match? he committed a schoolboy error one on one against suarez when sliding in and get nth in the end.

anyway. its good alone to see Gerrard bac and scoring.and undermine how important he is to our gameplay.and even more so when you know the supposedly best team in the country came into our field afraid of losing a match. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Dude, it's ok to be biased but it was very apparent that Smalling had them two in his pockets. I know of both of Downing and Enrique's qualities, they weren't shown much last night. Yes, there was a blip but Smalling kept both of them at bay. Same can be said about Young being contained by Kelly and Kuyt/Lucas. Credit is given where it is due. Simple.

QUOTE(rushmode @ Oct 16 2011, 01:40 PM)
enrique 'hand' ball was like ball to shoulder to hand. while evans is more clear ball to hand. though i personally think it didnt matter much when the ref not giving the penalty for both coz i think kinda soft penalty to give.

evra has been playing the 'race' card couple of times before. and all was ruled out. and i dont think suarez is a racist though.. he played in eradivise for quite a while to be a racist prick... banyak nigres sana. lol.
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True. I do agree with that.

Regarding the racist thing, lets just wait what would the FA have to say about this. He's(Suarez) innocent until proven guilty. That said, he has some bad boy rep, isn't he?

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 16 2011, 01:45 PM)
If you want a Sunday laugh, go to their thread. Its hilarious.

Taking snipes at our team, the fans and even Duke on a personal level.

a bunch of sad souls who will be donning a different jersey when their team stops winning the league.

Maybe when Manu stop being in the summit these lot will be donning the colours of Manchester.... City.
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Oohhh someone insulted me on a personal level did he? Like to see him come out from behind the keyboard and do it face-to-face as any real man would. It's expected though. When you can't put up a decent argument, one usually resorts to insults out of desperation.
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I'm more than happy with the result. Don't get me wrong. But to say that Fergie got it wrong for not fielding Anderson, Nani and Rooney is a bit debatable.


at 1st when i saw the line up..i was shock also...more into try to snatch a goal before Sir Alex sub in Rooney and Hernandez....thats why i hope my team can score 1 or 2 goals before Sir Alex bring in the duo. Then i realize there will be and important game on the next midweek? (well im not aware of Man Utd fixture)

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De Gea is a good GK despite all of those stupid remarks made by media early of the season. He's young and learning. To have him as our best player last night, says a lot about the team's ability in containing the ball and move forward. Which at times, very disappointing, especially for someone whom has played for loooonnnnggg time, Ryan Giggs.


mad.gif mad.gif i still cant believe he save the ball from Kuyt and Henderson...

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Dude, it's ok to be biased but it was very apparent that Smalling had them two in their pockets.


i dont know the exactly 'had them in their pockets' if Smailing prevent Downing and Enrique to cross, then i can say our Kelly had Ashley Young in his pockets too.

All and all, did we agree yesterday Man Utd was below par, cause i think Man Utd benchmark is winning, So not winning is below the benchmark rite?
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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Oct 16 2011, 01:48 PM)
Talk about Evra.. Guess we know what a player is he..
Look what have happened to his international career. A captain for ManU? Disgrace sweat.gif
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what do you expect , look at their ex-captain ...rio ferdinand and ryan giggs..one failed in drug test and one get caught for cheating his own brother ..yea yea , I am expecting someone to said our captain involved in bar punching someone but

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/ju...-verdict-affray

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
Oohhh someone insulted me on a personal level did he? Like to see him come out from behind the keyboard and do it face-to-face as any real man would. It's expected though. When you can't put up a decent argument, one usually resorts to insults out of desperation.
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yea , do it face to face here , dont be so hypocrite when you guys come and left 1-2 posts only ..scare of argument and discussion? I have no problem to apologise if someone pointed out I am wrong.


Added on October 16, 2011, 2:28 pmguys , highlight from last match

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http://hotfile.com/dl/132396707/c3caad5/EP...-10-11.avi.html

stream link

http://www.footytube.com/video/liverpool-m...ref=hp_ozeit_mp

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