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post Oct 2 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM)
NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k
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actually, no need to DIY ler...Each IMA battery consist of 40 subpack D cell..just ask the honda service center to replace only the faulty cells instead of changing the whole battery
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post Oct 2 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 2 2011, 10:49 AM)
normally those who consider foreign brand car later on switch back to local brand one, basically they do not really have budget in the beginning, so there is no difference really whether the foreign brand car they are "looking at" good or bad. then later on will find all sort of reasons to persuade themselves that they are making the right choice of their local car.  sweat.gif
couldn't agree more...as what I have been telling my friends...do not expect Honda Insight as an economical car..
coz the savings you would made petrol would probably even up with the maintenance that you're paying for this car
put it in this way...honda insight is a car which is worth of 180k value type of ride if there is no tax exempted by the government....having that said, no doubt the regular maintenance cost of it would be even more expensive compared to a 2.4 camry/accord

anyway, if you really want to compare a fully imported cbu car local car, let's not compare things like comfortability, handling or performance, etc as these are actually very subjective criterias and different drivers would have different point of view..
Let's compare on one of the most basic but yet essential criteria...which is safety
Honda insight has 5-star rating from international euroncap for safety and so far the best Proton (export unit) only made it to 3-stars..can't imagine what would be the rating for the typical local assembled cars whistling.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM)
lancer @ inspira also 5 star what .. but base on 7 airbag tongue.gif
local insights how many airbag?
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erm..i think insight only has 2 airbags but it still have much higher scores in ncap compared to genuine lancer lar..

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anyway, are you sure inspira chassis is as tough as mitsubishi lancer chassis and not a milo tin? sweat:
that is why I didn't choose inspira

Mitsubishi Explains Technical Collaboration With Proton
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 04:26 PM)
i am quite sure ..
chasis is the main support is not like u can cut cost from there.
mitsubishi didnt even allow proton to touch any of the chassis and engine parts until last minutes for the absorber setting only.

milo tin or not .. i think u really have not much ideas on car.. if u look at those door panel and stuff.. its exactly the same .. even those parts are soften to reduce impact ..

i use to have access to proton db .. thats why i know what the 40% roughly is ..
normal malaysian thinking .. expensive = good ... cheap sure cut many things .. but do remember its a car .. if mitsu allows proton to ALTER the chassis why not just allow them to use the CAMPRO engines... a lot cheaper the cost rite ?

anyway n00b123 --->
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/insight/

check it out ..
they have

Side Airbags
Curtain Airbags

So do u still think malaysia insights NCAP 5 star ??
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yes, i'm sure it is still 5-stars NCAP based on FACTS below:

Tested model Honda Insight, 1.3SE, RHD
Body type 5 door hatchback
Year of publication 2009
Kerb weight 1240kg
VIN from which rating applies Applies to all applies 2009 model year Insights
Class SMALL FAMILY
Front seatbelt pretensioners
Front seatbelt load limiters
Driver frontal airbag single stage
Front passenger frontal airbag single stage
Side body airbags
Side head airbags
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 04:55 PM)
http://www.honda.com.my/insight/detail/majorequipment/

if u look at malaysia one .. it is only with front 2 airbags..
even inspira comes with dual stage airbags but we dont consider it NCAP 5 star bcoz lancer has 7 airbags (not malaysia version) ..
removing the airbag sure will lower down the NCAP rating..
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 2 2011, 04:56 PM)
like that next time no need crash the car dy, just check got how many airbags, and look at the stats, and announce, this car get 5 stars!!

wait, why are we comparing insight and inspira/lancer ncap/toughness? biggrin.gif
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i also dunno how things led from one another and it seems like we are into out of topic discussion tongue.gif
anyway, the 5-stars NCAP rating is evaluated based on real crash simulations and not by stats
The honda insights which are currently on sale in Malaysia are SE model and it is a completely built unit from Japan
Hence, it remains as 5-star as per the link below

http://www.euroncap.com/results/honda/Insight/365.aspx
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 05:06 PM)
erm.. i dunno u miss it or dunno how to read .. tongue.gif

Go to the part .. detail of tested car

u actually see it has
Side body airbags 
Side head airbags

where malaysia version dun have..

a simple logic .... if i take a insight from japan .. remove all the airbags.. i can still call it ncap 5 star ?
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okay..i've missed out the side head and side body airbags...ish..thought it was not included when there is no "tick" on that column.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 2 2011, 05:08 PM)
wei, you still don't understand? , even same model they cut off some airbag, which make it if go through NCAP test again will get a lower mark , for sure!, please don't say a 7 airbag which rated 5 start NCAP and this is apply to a insight that equiped with 2 airbag also rated to 5star NCAP cause it  called insight too!
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well, still I believe it still have better security than proton/perodua cars tongue.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Oct 2 2011, 07:59 PM)
want so many airbag for what? when accident , you no airbags , then you only know the pain.
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dun understand what u trying to mean here... rclxub.gif
the airbags are meant protect the passengers and reduce impact when car crashes
of course, its better to have more airbags than none right?
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