The documentation is putting me off from apply. Too many form and don't understand at all. The application step is headache. It somehow, you cannot do this thing by yourself. Need to appoint an installer. Wonder can install by myself and appoint installer submit the documentation and approval.

Not mistaken the fit rate for 2012 - 1.23, 2013 - 1.13 and 2014 - 1.04. 21yrs contract.

Initial thinking to just sustain my whole house light only. Not the whole house. But doing off grid will not get 100% output from the panel.

Have you install the solar panel or going to apply? What is your experience about this?

Yeah. It is the easy way. But costly also. Guess this kind PV not for poor ppl like me. Still far away from effort.

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Added on September 14, 2012, 1:12 amMy initial plan is buy the PV parts, install myself. Than apply for the FIT. Thinking save some cost. But it much more complicated than what I think. Not the technical side. But the application side.

Getting the solar panel and others parts is not difficult for me. It is pretty easy. And I can get it much more cheaper than the local installer. Can instal by myself too.

Actually the battery is 1/2 of the panel cost. Depend how many whr you need.

For the Fit, have you factor in the maintainance cost, parts replacement cost (specially the inverter) and the tax on the income? What is the return when factor in this?

Local panel is not efficency and only 1 manfacturing from kuantan supply. Mostly local PV manufacturing (investor) don't sell locally and export out only. It is a joke when we have many PV amnufacturing. But can't buy even 1pcs.

Maybe you can gain another 0.25 if you use it as building material. Takeout your roof and replace with the PV.

How many KW you intend to install and the cost?



This post has been edited by ozak: Sep 14 2012, 01:12 AM

By financing, you mean take bank loan? SEDA already comeout the bank loan list? What is the interest rate? I thaught SEDA still teaching the bank what is PV.

The installer offer me 16k/kw. German panel and inverter. No china panel as efficeincy is low. If I source by myself, can get cheaper. Warranty still have. But shipping cost have to settle by myself. Parts is from US. Micro inverter is still expensive. But if getting popular and price drop, can consider. DCV panel have more option for me to modify and play around.

Most of the installer will separate the parts warranty. Panel mostly can give over 10yrs warranty. While other parts is vary between 2-5yrs.

How about insuarance?

So far what I know, 16k/kw is about average. Since it is german system they offer, I guess the price is about there. They don't offer china panel cause the data efficiency is not that good.

The insuarance is not from the local. The whole system is insuare by the german PV manufacturing appoint insuarance company. Which is from german too. They cover the system defect, lost and even income lost due to product.

If you want to have real local pv output data, check here -> http://www.cooltek.org/pv-solar.php Download the pdf report. This guy have 4.8kwp since 2007 and record everyday output power of his PV. He complaining about TNB late payment for his FIT.

The ROI did put me off from proceed further. Unless I did it my way. Which I get the system myself and install. Way cheaper alot.

For resindential, the max is 12kwp. For 23kwp, you need to apply under cormercial quota. And the rate much more lower.

Even the panel lifespan is long, your contract with TNB is max 21yrs. Should we calculate till 21yrs?

The efficiency will drop every yrs. So till end of your contract 21yrs, don't think your income will be the same.

At here due to hot weather, the performance will be drop further. Solar panel work best when cool clear sunny day.

I get the information from the installer who conduct the workshop. The quota seems from the SEDA. I only remember the individual which max is 12kw. For commercial something like Mw max. While the farm type, need to have najib contact. Otherwise no installer can help you.

Many rule doesn't make sense and seems like protect themselve. Like the yearly quota. Why to have quota to limit the application? Gov have a target of 17% till 2030 for RE. The explain is, TNB don't have much free money to give?

I wonder the solar heater here can achieve this boiling point or not. I can see something can invent from there.

This post has been edited by ozak: Sep 14 2012, 11:15 PM

I read somewhere that inorder to supply 1kw to a house, TNB need to generate 3kw. Much of the energy lost at the transmiting and converting. If residential generate the electricity of it own, that save the TNB of 2kw. So why need funding?

Residential electricity is subsidy. I believe TNB don't get much profit from residential or probaly lost. If residential can generate it own electricity, TNB can transfer the much need to the commercial use which have better rate. Ain't this give better profit to TNB. So why to have quota?

Gov or TNB is subsidy our electricity. If residential generate it own electricity, TNB don't need to pay more subsidy. Can they use the subsidy to pay some portion for the FIT? That don't require our funding.

YTL generate power and sell to TNB. We are smaller scale of YTL. What rate do TNB given to YTL?

Here about the power lost. -> http://www.solarvoltaic.com/ Under " So why do we have AC 240V if everything is DC? "

I thaught the main is gas, 2nd is coal and 3rd is hydro? And coming is nuclear energy which decide by 2014.

Yup, the elctricity price here is artificial, 1 of the reason why we don't need RE at the moment.

Thanks for correcting that stupid website. But you need to comeout some link or reading for us to read and believe. We don't no about power generation.

So are you decide to go ahead with the Fit? Does the ROI look good to you after some mis calculation?

The house property need to be your name if you apply for Fit.

I wish you can go ahead with the Fit even the ROI is not so convincing for your earning sense. Combine other like your interest, RE and CO2, guess contribute abit is not that difficult.

Let us know your progress, experience go through all the progress, some picture and the data. At least we have some first hand story about this so new Fit thing.

Not neccessary. Apply the quota first if everything haven't done. The installer will help you with the online form. The quota have grace period of many mth. So slow slow no problem. This is told by installer.

Another important thing is don't forget to register reppa with seda.

Don't see any eFit in the website. Not on 24th?

Thanks. already register. But the website is blank when go in. Nothing there. Maybe overload.

Actually I prefer wait and see. Just register first. Wait for next yrs and see. The cost of installation is still high. I would like to DIY if the installer can help me with the document side. Which I hate to do it.

There is possible 2 situation for price up or price down. Remember even if the price material is down, the labour and logistic will up yrs by yrs. So probably the price will be no different or even up.

If the PV market become popular here, the competitor hit up. Hence, the price will drop. But possible crap material to cut cost.

Why the seda Fit rate lower by yrs? Possible because of price drop for installation they forecast?

Suprising, even some going bankrupt but the demanding is still high. The bankrupt is cause of price compete. And not because of low demand. The good example is, local PV maufacturing. You can't even buy 1 from them.

Shouldn't be any problem. Good luck to you.

Read through this thread. And you will be able to understand some.