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ozak
post Dec 16 2011, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Dec 16 2011, 05:16 PM)
im nt sure but you can try check up forwarding. For Malaysia; there is alot of un-answered in implementing it. Do it totally include tax rebate; or free tax & where consumer can get it so it can include into the CApex of the design..
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Don't rush. Just wait and see. The implementing fit won't run away or close next year. When people not respond much, many good thing will throw in the program.

Some US solar site have some year end holiday sales. This is good chance to get some of this solar panel.
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post Jan 6 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jan 6 2012, 02:48 PM)
IMHO FiT in tariff is one thing, are there any competent and certified installers.

Take a look this article, simple setup yet the systems don't work. Botched projects will cause confidence drop and hinder future adoption of solar systems.

Solar-powered lights at bus stops malfunction soon after being fixed

MORE than 80 solar-powered lights at bus stops in Kajang, Cheras and Semenyih malfunctioned within three months after being installed.
Kajang municipal councillor Eddie Ng said only eight out of the 96 lights were functioning and the rest were not in working condition.
Ng said the lights were installed at the end of 2010 and in less than three months many had malfunctioned.


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Dua sen I could probably do a better job DIY the lights than those contractors tongue.gif

Sauce: http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...862&sec=central

My housing area have several solar powered street lights for the community park. Originally installed by the developer, most are functioning 5 years after they're originally installed. Others appear dead, no maintenance probably need to change the bulb or battery.

Has anyone tried to DIY their own solar projects? Share your experience, tips and equipment used.
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This kind of project is songlap project lah. It not mean for usage.
ozak
post Jan 6 2012, 04:08 PM

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Here is my tiny mini solar project. Setup last 2week. It is for my porch car side.

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Added on January 6, 2012, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jan 6 2012, 03:52 PM)
Hello weikee do you know where to purchase good quality outdoor cables?  I've been asking around but most electrical shops don't have what I'm looking for.

Managed to find a battery specialist shop called Volga at Bdr Puteri Puchong. Just picked up 100AH 12V GP brand battery today. Cost RM650  shocking.gif
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Here you can get the outdoor cable specially for solar panel. --> http://www.solarpower-mart.com/solar_wire__outdoor_cable

I m interesting of the battery you get. Do you have detail for the address?

What kind of battery is this? It mean for solar? The price seems not that expensive.

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post Jan 6 2012, 04:28 PM

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RS expensive.But sometime I brought from them. No choice. Another 1 is Misumi which selling japan cable and good quality. About RS price but custom tax expensive for cable.

Another shop is at jalan pasar. Walk down toward the plus junction traffic light jalan pudu. The shop is abit hidden and beside the corner parking lot. Don't no what name of the shop.

You can see some cable infront and there demo a cable which submerge inside the water.
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post Jan 6 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 6 2012, 04:34 PM)
Sometime no choice, cause RS bring many stuff not common in Malaysia. Like 3M tapes. Funny 3M factory is in Nilai, but hard to find shop carry 3M tapes
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This is common.

We here have many solar panel produce factory. But you have problem find a solar panel here.
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post Jan 6 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 6 2012, 06:09 PM)
solar still inefficient, high maintenance, high cost. that's why coal/petroleum still widely used
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The wave is coming even so many bad thing. Malaysia is just starting. The first world is reducing the coal/ petroleum to reduce the carbon footprint.

And without you realize, you might sponsoring this if your bill more than rm77, sweat.gif
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post Jan 9 2012, 02:18 PM

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The world now produce exccessive solar panel. China are dumping the solar panel out and cause the price getting low. Which angry the US side and see some US manufacturing close shop.

In US during holiday sale last month, can see as low as $1/watt panel. I guess it is china panel. Hope you guys got grab some.

At here, price range around RM9/watt and above. Probably tax and shipment cost which doesn't make sense at all.
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post Jan 9 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 9 2012, 02:47 PM)
You need to add, Tax, Coffee money, APs, special approval, logistic, storage, and profit.
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It doesn't make sense is, we have many solar panel manufacturing here. And yet get 1 panel also difficult to find. And no shipment cost involve at all. It should be lower cost.

Since gov promote RE here, at least should abolish the solar tax for the local consumption. It benifit the local and the manufacturing here. No money is flying out.

Songlap people money only. sad.gif
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post Jan 9 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 9 2012, 03:34 PM)
If the price is good, I will use solar to power all my IT equipment in my server room.

That way, i can save like RM 2 per day as my servers and network usage is about 200watt per hours.

Too bad is still long way to go.
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I already got solar plant for my home server. Since it just use below 100watt for the whole thing.
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post Jan 9 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 9 2012, 03:59 PM)
Cannot for me, I need minimal 200 watt, too many PoE switches, and routers.
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That is high bill. Run 24hr can cost you RM30+. sweat.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jan 9 2012, 11:49 PM)
Can you show us your setting & work? biggrin.gif
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Sorry. I means still in planning stage. Not a single work have been carry out at the moment. blush.gif

Once the job done, will post here.
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post Jan 10 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Jan 10 2012, 10:02 AM)
please share with us ya smile.gif

fyi if anybody plan to bulk or get what ever from oversea.. please check with us maybe some of us can tumpang.. if its cheaper smile.gif
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Still in talk kok stage. tongue.gif

Forget you want to buy bulk. tongue.gif Actually I have order some panel and relate thing from US during holiday sale. And in the process of sending back here. I m not sure is it cheap enough till I get the final cost include the transport cost and the possible tax. So it is some kind of testing this buying and delivery heavy thing.


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post Jan 10 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 10:20 AM)
Too big may get custom attention. The Solar panel is not small for large watt. Maybe need to smuggle from Kulim biggrin.gif
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You can get those flexible type which you can roll it smaller when shipment.

How about night operasi ahem..ahem.. you got lorry?
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Jan 10 2012, 10:42 AM)
ordered already still talk cock ?

what you planning to build/do first.. care to share.. or u already share/told u already.. been blurr these few days..
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Yeah lah, Haven't see my item at my door step mah.

Initial stage is to try it what max it can output. My theory calculation is 500+w panel which ouput perday is 2kwh. That should be enough for my house light which I plan to do first. See what is the result before go to another stage. The initial system is upgrade able to 2kw panel.

The dilemma now is what kind of light is save in term of cost, quantity and brightness. So far best is DC all the way to light. Save the cost of inverter and have more watt and amp to output. But that would require me to change all the bulb to DC type and design an auto switching backup circuit incase.

This is small system. As I don't no how is the shipment process will endure. Afraid to buy more. I m using indirect shipping way which cost less and probably no tax. Finger cross.
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post Jan 10 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 11:20 AM)
I read some old blog, maybe thos interest can read too.

http://www.rekacipta.net/2011/03/panduan-p...-sel-solar.html
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Alot of this project in the net and very interesting. It remind me back some of my tennage project. smile.gif

Here another website where more than thousand project you can choose -> http://www.instructables.com/
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post Jan 10 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jan 10 2012, 02:53 PM)
Just to share here is my project, 2 solar power spotlights for garden. Lighting time from 7PM to 6AM, 11-12 hours.

Components:-

1) 12v SLA Battery 7ah x 3 units (wired in parallel to provide 21ah, to be replaced with 100ah battery)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1495775&hl=7ah
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10 watt LED spotlight  x 2 units (modded to work at 12vdc)
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Solar Controller
http://www.mudah.my/SLD+T+Solar+Controller...or-11035638.htm
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50watt Solar Panel from Solar Power Mart
http://solarpower-mart.com/yahoo_site_admi...ET.26875342.pdf
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Misc Other Items
Outdoor wiring
Panel enclosure box
Crimping pliers and crimp head/lugs
Soldering iron
Shrink tubing/wiring tape
Testpen
------------- dan lain-lain!

I'll post picture of the actual setup later nod.gif
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May I know what kind of battery you are replacing? I m in a mis of looking for a battery.

The LED spotlight not come in 12VDC? I see mostly in 12VDC.

Base on my calculation usage of 10wx2x12hr = 240whr. Which require 1104whr battery bank capacity (92amp battery). But need 62.4w solar panel which mean 2x50watt solar panel. Provided 5hr sunlight and 2day backup.

By the way, is that lenglui from solar power mart? wub.gif I m interest of her than the panel. wub.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Jan 10 2012, 03:57 PM)
damn you guys just, provided all the stuff we need to change all external lights to sun powered..

@ozak so need to pia 5hrs 2 days backup ?

sun shine so little ?

the solar controller dont have input from AC ? as backup ?
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5hr is max the sun shine on the panel at certain place. Some country have only 3hr. Not just the sun hr, you need the sun shine angle per your contry longtitude. And panel face south. The rest of the hr sun is not productive or less efficency.

The solar charge controller is for convert the V and A to stable charge the battery. For switching AC backup need another device.
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jan 10 2012, 05:26 PM)
The LED itself are DC, however spotlight from lighting shops work on 110 to 220vac.

When I open up the spotlight there is a a driver that converts mains AC to DC for the LED.

Replacement battery, single 100wh AGM battery from GP... I picked it up over the weekend but it's not installed yet.

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Can you help me with this calculation 10wx2x1hr = 20whr.

20whr / 12v = 1.6AH is that correct?

Currently 21AH battery lasts approx 4 hours before lights out, I'm wondering why the battery doesn't last much longer  blink.gif
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The calculation should be correct. That is possible your battery not fully charge. And the battery cannot be use till 0 charge as it will shorten the battery life. To makesure the battery last longer, you cannot discharge more than 50%.

Another possible is your spotlight maybe run more than 20watt.
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post Jan 11 2012, 01:48 PM

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My another mini tiny solar power light project for CNY. He...

Use 2pcs solar light and modify it to power 2pcs tanglung at the car porch. The tanglung light is 2pcs LED which probably 0.6w. Once the sun down, the light will up till next morning and the solar will charge the battery again.

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post Jan 11 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jan 11 2012, 03:23 PM)
Nice job re-purposing the solar tanglung lantern, originally what are the lights used for?

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Original of this solar light is a door entrance or garage light. It use motion and day/light sensor to activate..


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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 11 2012, 03:42 PM)
How much is the 100AH battery? Why not get a normal Car battery? Say 2x NS60? Will it be cheaper? Or N100
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Car battery can't be use for solar as it cannot discharge deep. And when use in solar, it have a short lifespan than the AGM battery.

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