I will try figure out how to certification. Seriously, we dont need financing from bank as i able setup 4 kw system in Rm10k.

Thank bro.

The level is almost impossible if you DIY and get cert. Not the hardware part problem. But the tender, submitting form and procedure is difficult. The SEDA rules that prevent you from DIY. Good luck.

I think the issues are getting mixed up.

1. Of course DIY is possible. Then you use it yourself, or save to battery system.

2. To sell to TNB, you need a certified installer and SEDA fit quota.

3. No fit quota, and no seda installer, then you diy and use by yourself (called net metering in industry terms) or save to battery (which is quite limited).

What is the economic difference between selling to TNB (with fit quota) and net metering (no fit quota)?

---->> about rm1 per kwh.

When you do net metering, the price of electricity is 22sen to 50+sen per kwh. That is what you save.

If you get fit quota, you can sell to TNB at above rm1 per kwh depending on the different categories. The 2013 tariff can go as high as rm1.47 per kwh.

So decide for yourself;

- diy and net metering: cheaper n more fun, less profit.

Or

- fit quota and seda approved installer: more expensive and maybe more profit.

Up to you.

Because there are control by few selected company. Typical bolehland style.

Wah, So many stuff I need go though. Btw, Why seda rules will prevent me ? I just dont get it why I need tender and is not apply for license as I'm installer person ?

A kids here and Help advice bro

Lwk523 - are you a SEDA ISPQ certified? If yes, you can do by yourself...

Questions you guys are throwing up is like why do i need an architect to build my house? Why can't i build my own house.

Yes, you can DIY but you may breach local regulation, get fined etc.

I'm not supporting the government or local council but the reality is that we live within a structure and framework of rules. If you don't like the rules and regulations, then you may not enjoy the benefit which has been oreoared. There may also be repercussions like fines and penalties. Up to you lah.

Actually the rules and procedure that killing you. This is typical Malaysia gov way as what weekee said. There is no way you can do it yourself as the rule require you to appoint an installer. You cannot be installer as they require installer with license to register with them. And this is another level of applying to be installer. You don't want to do that.

You can do it from open an acc till the tender. After that they require you to appoint an installer. Unless there is an installer help you at the form applying procedure side till commissioner. Of course you need to pay.

I have an excel file that can explain very detail about all this procedure. But don't no where I misplace.

My friend in Perth build entire house by him and his church friends. He only get the architecture to draw and get the house certified by the civil engineer. And everything are fine, insurance and town council accepted it as a house. And the certificate and drawing is not expensive.

Overhere is about protection, and someone need to get rich first before you get your stuff.

You can even construct your own vehicle, all procedure and instruction are clearly define by the government. Can build your own kit car and still get valid number plate.

attitude, and process all different.

over here, it inhibits DIY people. other places easier to DIY.

Who own the panel after TNB contract ended?
I was told TNB own it after that 25 years contract period

You own from the beginning till the end. You are IPP. You sell the power to TNB between the contract state.

billyboy & ozak

Thank yall, Now I have a clear picture for this . Previously, I tot it was a gardener plant a flower or grass in their garden lolx. I'm not consider it as Professional task like architect.

Btw, What is the qualification for get certified installer ? Erm

Go for course....not sure if they are still holding it as > 100 ispq in the country...

just now the course for ispq stop for a while

Too many ispq. Cannot cari makan. I guess.

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price for 12kwp system, panels used, inverter used? can be used to replace existing roof (i.e. use as building material)?

For those who already have solar panels installed, just curious how often do you guys clean the panels ?
let the rain do it,
yearly?
biyearly?
when the yield goes under low limit?
etc?

http://seda.gov.my/
After reading from Seda website, the FIT rate has been on down trend for the past 3 years, from 2012's rm1.78, 2013's rm1.6408 and 2014's rm1.5128. This rate is the 4KW system
Can I conclude that every year it will reduced by rm0.10?
To set up a 4KW system we need to borrow(or use cash) of rm40000 with interest rate of 6% PA. Loan for 3 years, rm7200.
As per advertised, I can get average of rm600 per month(assuming that the price of FIT never drop but actual is dropping), so 21*12*600=rm151200
Taking the actual calculation, for a 4KW system, this year 384*1.5128=rm581(6972)-588
last year will be 384*1.6408=rm630(7560)-642
2012 is 384*1.78=rm684(8202)
Another wild conclusion, every year income will be rm500 less.
So, for a 21 years of contract, I'm getting rm69040 only. Considering the investment I made, borrow rm40000 with interest of rm7200, so rm69040-rm7200=rm29040.
rm29040 of ROI over 21 years will be rm1382 a year of gain. So 3.44%.
This is assuming that the solar panel will be 100% efficient and I no need to change the solar panel and the inverter.
Again, in actual this won't be happening and I do need to change the inverter and service the solar panels. If each time change and service is every 5 years(actual servicing solar panel is 2-3 years depending on the generation), I need to do it for 4 times. And if each time cost me rm1000, I will have to deduct another rm4000 from 29040. So actual ROI will be only 2.5%.
Just roughly share only, in actual Seda will penalty us if we do not generate enough power as per the contract.

Dude, you have to recalculate cause once you sign on that year, it's that rate for the next 21yrs, no dropping.

I think there's more than 100 ISPQ thing or service providers already, go shopping for it, I don't think there's a monopoly going on for residential housing