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post Oct 2 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(kding2 @ Oct 2 2011, 11:28 AM)
They will only recruit you when you have some results. Knowing that Sc2 isn't that wide and popular in Msia, how are you going to produce a results to attract their attentions? I know it is possible, but not easy as long you are in Msia.
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exactly. For example, Blizzard is doing an invitational tornament for SEA. Of course you have to be one of the top grandmasters to get invited. If you can win that torney, ppl will notice u.
Blizzard is doing a good job with the laddering system so dat anyone in the world can compete and show their talent..
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:53 PM

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eh? u all talk so much about how EG should play more when they are already at the top? now your speech kinda contradicting leh

well what they do isint for you guyz to complain/decide now right?

if u guyz wanna complain then show them whats "passion" that u all talk about, go be pro gamer and get a team loh

no use bickering here like complainers *rolleyes*
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:34 PM

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post Oct 2 2011, 06:07 PM

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wow, u actually thought my post was directed at you? rofl...talk bout how ppl get so defensive when a random post appears, whatever that makes u happy boy *rolleyes*


Added on October 2, 2011, 6:10 pmoh and yeah btw, regardless EG is not at their HIGHEST possible lvl of play, doesnt remove the fact that they are still at a higher tier of play to be able to "compete"

so unless ur somebody better than them, try not to sound way over your head lol

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post Oct 2 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Oct 2 2011, 11:29 AM)
owh well, sure. they can do wtv they want as long as their sponsors do not complain. but unless they were born more talented than those korean. one practise 6 hours, another practise 12 hours, guess who will win? if they cant win tournaments then they cant win their 5 digit big fat 1st place prize too. (not rm10 for sure smile.gif )
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Doesn't even matter whether they can beat Korean or not. It is about the luxury life that they are enjoying as a pro-gamer. Also, I doubt the results does matter for EG. EG Idra has been losing a lot recently in the tournament, yet there is no sign of EG trying to sacks Idra away for being incompetent player.

Also, EG pays salary to their players monthly. Where do the EG money/revenue comes from if not by winning the prize money? Well, it is from the merchandise, advertising and streaming. It is obviously a good thing if the players can win the tournament, but what I know, the player who won the tournament keeps the money for himself, not the team.




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post Oct 2 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Oct 2 2011, 06:07 PM)
wow, u actually thought my post was directed at you? rofl...talk bout how ppl get so defensive when a random post appears, whatever that makes u happy boy *rolleyes*


Added on October 2, 2011, 6:10 pmoh and yeah btw, regardless EG is not at their HIGHEST possible lvl of play, doesnt remove the fact that they are still at a higher tier of play to be able to "compete"

so unless ur somebody better than them, try not to sound way over your head lol
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owh so it wasnt directed to me, then i shouldnt fire back just now. kthxbye.

owh, and sorry.

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(kding2 @ Oct 2 2011, 11:28 AM)
They will only recruit you when you have some results. Knowing that Sc2 isn't that wide and popular in Msia, how are you going to produce a results to attract their attentions? I know it is possible, but not easy as long you are in Msia.
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If you're rich or family are, and they support your decision, you can invest on your self to korea and try to get into code A lol...also you can talk to gom.tv if you need a house or something, they willing to support.
or might as well fly to where MLG are held and get into the prelims. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 10:45 PM

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well, i wonder how the community will look at u when ure 30 and ure still pro gaming, ur gf's (if any) parents will think ure a pathetic freak, unless u win almost all of the tournaments u enter and u are rich, u cannot treat sc2 as ur life, its funny to see how incontrol talk shit about how dedicated he is in sc2 while combatex could beat him easily while he is just a casual university student..i would set a standard as if ure qualified as a code A player in gsl, u can call urself a pro gamer, i think idra didnt interact much with the top zerg players out there thats why he is still not improving, for ROOTdestiny, EGincontrol those kinda standard,they can just experience the life of semi-pro gaming and have to get out of it if they are not putting anymore effort in it
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post Oct 4 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Oct 3 2011, 10:45 PM)
well, i wonder how the community will look at u when ure 30 and ure still pro gaming, ur gf's (if any) parents will think ure a pathetic freak, unless u win almost all of the tournaments u enter and u are rich, u cannot treat sc2 as ur life, its funny to see how incontrol talk shit about how dedicated he is in sc2 while combatex could beat him easily while he is just a casual university student..i would set a standard as if ure qualified as a code A player in gsl, u can call urself a pro gamer, i think idra didnt interact much with the top zerg players out there thats why he is still not improving, for ROOTdestiny, EGincontrol those kinda standard,they can  just experience the life of semi-pro gaming and have to get out of it if they are not putting anymore effort in it
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When you turn 30 you can be a coach or continue play if your body allows...
given if you're very talented during your 20s, probably you will be hired as coach by the progaming team.

I can ensure you that if back in the days they are no sponsors/supporters for the sports teams like what current eSport is facing now, people will laugh at them even they are at 30s and still playing sports for their living.

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post Oct 4 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Oct 3 2011, 10:45 PM)
well, i wonder how the community will look at u when ure 30 and ure still pro gaming, ur gf's (if any) parents will think ure a pathetic freak, unless u win almost all of the tournaments u enter and u are rich, u cannot treat sc2 as ur life, its funny to see how incontrol talk shit about how dedicated he is in sc2 while combatex could beat him easily while he is just a casual university student..i would set a standard as if ure qualified as a code A player in gsl, u can call urself a pro gamer, i think idra didnt interact much with the top zerg players out there thats why he is still not improving, for ROOTdestiny, EGincontrol those kinda standard,they can  just experience the life of semi-pro gaming and have to get out of it if they are not putting anymore effort in it
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When you turn 30 you can be a coach or continue play if your body allows...
given if you're very talented during your 20s, probably you will be hired as coach by the progaming team.

I can ensure you that if back in the days they are no sponsors/supporters for the sports teams like what current eSport is facing now, people will laugh at them even they are at 30s and still playing sports for their living.
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Exactly. Just like the pro footballers or other sports.
When they reach 30+, surely they can't play that well anymore, hence they switch career to manager, coach, commentator, pundits and many more. Look at day[9]. Now he is one of the best sc2 commentator eventhough he can't play as good as the current pro players.
There are many ways u can diversify your career path if u hv the talent on a specific attribute.

Musicians who loves music with ugly face can be a producer / songwriter. Etc, etc..
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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Oct 3 2011, 10:45 PM)
well, i wonder how the community will look at u when ure 30 and ure still pro gaming, ur gf's (if any) parents will think ure a pathetic freak, unless u win almost all of the tournaments u enter and u are rich, u cannot treat sc2 as ur life, its funny to see how incontrol talk shit about how dedicated he is in sc2 while combatex could beat him easily while he is just a casual university student..i would set a standard as if ure qualified as a code A player in gsl, u can call urself a pro gamer, i think idra didnt interact much with the top zerg players out there thats why he is still not improving, for ROOTdestiny, EGincontrol those kinda standard,they can  just experience the life of semi-pro gaming and have to get out of it if they are not putting anymore effort in it
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This is exactly what I mean, the EG people are not competitive enough, maybe because of the luxury they are enjoying. Well I guess they are what America has to offer.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Oct 4 2011, 04:36 PM)
This is exactly what I mean, the EG people are not competitive enough, maybe because of the luxury they are enjoying. Well I guess they are what America has to offer.
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To be honest, i prefer EG's cs division more than starcraft, they are much more competitive back in the days, not sure bout now since i never seem them in the competitive for quite a while.
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 4 2011, 11:40 AM)
When you turn 30 you can be a coach or continue play if your body allows...
given if you're very talented during your 20s, probably you will be hired as coach by the progaming team.

I can ensure you that if back in the days they are no sponsors/supporters for the sports teams like what current eSport is facing now, people will laugh at them even they are at 30s and still playing sports for their living.
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well i still dont see how malaysia community will accept esport for real in the near future, USA and KOREA are to recognising it, even marinekingPrime's parents opposed to him joining professional gaming team for years but finally gave in, since his family is rich i think.

IMO, u can definitely join esports, if u come from a rich family..just do it with ur passion when u dont need to worry with ur money becuz u love doing it. isnt life supposes to mean that way? do what u like and u still get a regular income, not too much, but it is enough to prove u are beneficial to the society since u have income to spend them to enhance the economy, theoretical since ure already rich in this case. want to afford a sports car or bungalow in kl and still have some money left from pro gaming? forget it. go start a business and the probability is higher.


do u think most accountant, business men love what they are doing? well they have to say they love it cuz just to prove what they are now, but, i think, if theyre already rich, they would do what they really like now wouldnt it? for example, most F1 racers come from very rich family, most students who study music as well, cuz they like what they are doing, dont really think they care a lot about the money at the 1st instance when they have their mind made up about it..if i am already rich, i would travel the world, for my entire life, learn every language that i possibly can learn


look whos the successful (i wouldnt consider they are rich, they would just have enough money to support their family for the rest of their life after they have retired and start some small business, since they have the capital from pro gaming) pro gamer out there in sc? boxer, flash, jaedoong, its like 1 out of 100 people from pro gaming can be that sucessful, would u willing to take this risk when u start pro gaming?

koreans are more dedicated as compared to the americans, cuz i think it is their attitude towards things that they do, as u know, most koreans and japanese work 10 hours a day, they are known for workaholic and dedication, those korean engineers who constructed the penang bridge finished their contract long before the deadline was reached just to earn that extra money. hell do the kpop celebrities dance so well cuz of the dedication, look at Rain in Ninja Assasin, he trained for 8 hours a day for 6 months and rest 1 day in a week for that movie even though he hated working out so much just to prove he is an overall performer.

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Oct 4 2011, 04:36 PM)
This is exactly what I mean, the EG people are not competitive enough, maybe because of the luxury they are enjoying. Well I guess they are what America has to offer.
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actually being in this section for some time, ive always wonder, since talks bout the malaysian scene pops up once in a while and talks bout the outside scene as well. just curious, do we actually have a scene? ive always seen tourneys posted up but there is no detailed after report, pics or even replays on youtube on the matches that went on for us other malaysians that are less fortunate/skilled to participate in it to watch.

so idk man, either its not available or i just dont see it but its there.

malaysia could use a person like husky to gather all these replays and commentate imho.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Oct 4 2011, 08:19 PM)
actually being in this section for some time, ive always wonder, since talks bout the malaysian scene pops up once in a while and talks bout the outside scene as well. just curious, do we actually have a scene? ive always seen tourneys posted up but there is no detailed after report, pics or even replays on youtube on the matches that went on for us other malaysians that are less fortunate/skilled to participate in it to watch.

so idk man, either its not available or i just dont see it but its there.

malaysia could use a person like husky to gather all these replays and commentate imho.
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in fact the poseidon tournament was casted live by FXO and there was like 1k viewers at a point...
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Pepsi: as i said, its about who willing to stand up and open everyone's mind about gaming, you don't actually get the sports part don't yoy? You think lee chong wei able to get dato this name without supports/sponsors?


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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 5 2011, 01:03 AM)
Pepsi: as i said, its about who willing to stand up and open everyone's mind about gaming, you don't actually get the sports part don't yoy? You think lee chong wei able to get dato this name without supports/sponsors?
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u wouldnt want your children, assuming, all of your children go pro gaming for life now wouldnt u? even if they really like it

well u can say, 'oh its all good about esports' but on the other hand u dont want any of your children to go pro gaming for life becuz u know they are gonna regret it for not become a boss like any other business man who have a comfortable and successful life, well im not saying they have 100% become successful businessmen, but the probability is way higher than pro gaming itself

u think lee chong wei is really all good? whats he gonna do when he is retired? ok, he can coach, but thats all. yea he got a lot of fame, but i would rather be rich than having fame, well at least money can get me what i really like in the future, ie, travel around the world

i know the way i reason things is very selfish cuz u all can say lee chong wei does it for his country and not for himself, well, IMO, lee chong wei does this purely becuz he has passion and likes badminton, and not anything more than that, for country is phony reason just to attract more attention which faggots needed the most

i dare to make a hypothesis, assuming lee chong wei lost his malaysian citizenship by some reason, i believe singapore or any other country would give him a citizenship on the condition that he will represent that country for playing badminton and he will accept that offer

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QUOTE(pepsi89 @ Oct 5 2011, 04:29 AM)
u wouldnt want your children, assuming, all of your children go pro gaming for life now wouldnt u? even if they really like it

well u can say, 'oh its all good about esports' but on the other hand u dont want any of your children to go pro gaming for life becuz u know they are gonna regret it for not become a boss like any other business man who have a comfortable and successful life, well im not saying they have 100% become successful businessmen, but the probability is way higher than pro gaming itself

u think lee chong wei is really all good? whats he gonna do when he is retired? ok, he can coach, but thats all. yea he got a lot of fame, but i would rather be rich than having fame, well at least money can get me what i really like in the future, ie, travel around the world

i know the way i reason things is very selfish cuz u all can say lee chong wei does it for his country and not for himself, well, IMO, lee chong wei does this purely becuz he has passion and likes badminton, and not anything more than that, for country is phony reason just to attract more attention which faggots needed the most

i dare to make a hypothesis, assuming lee chong wei lost his malaysian citizenship by some reason, i believe singapore or any other country would give him a citizenship on the condition that he will represent that country for playing badminton and he will accept that offer
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i agree with u. BS if sum1 doing it for country or state or anything else EXCEPT for his passion.
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guess you still doesn't get the part "what if sports never get supports/sponsors back in the 19xx like what esports facing", oh well, everyone loves their on statements, i will just stop here.
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Even since ancient times, sports like chinese qiu ju and the board game called "weiqi/ Igo / Baduk" gets sponsored by the imperial court of China, Korea and Japan. The players who plays with the kings and emperors get very decent life style.

So this sponsor stuff is not just something modern it has been around for thousands of years.

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