i was expecting there is a gym room, i dont think they have enough exercise beside swimming which i think they rarely do swim..

do u mean this gym?

well, i wonder how the community will look at u when ure 30 and ure still pro gaming, ur gf's (if any) parents will think ure a pathetic freak, unless u win almost all of the tournaments u enter and u are rich, u cannot treat sc2 as ur life, its funny to see how incontrol talk shit about how dedicated he is in sc2 while combatex could beat him easily while he is just a casual university student..i would set a standard as if ure qualified as a code A player in gsl, u can call urself a pro gamer, i think idra didnt interact much with the top zerg players out there thats why he is still not improving, for ROOTdestiny, EGincontrol those kinda standard,they can just experience the life of semi-pro gaming and have to get out of it if they are not putting anymore effort in it

well i still dont see how malaysia community will accept esport for real in the near future, USA and KOREA are to recognising it, even marinekingPrime's parents opposed to him joining professional gaming team for years but finally gave in, since his family is rich i think.

IMO, u can definitely join esports, if u come from a rich family..just do it with ur passion when u dont need to worry with ur money becuz u love doing it. isnt life supposes to mean that way? do what u like and u still get a regular income, not too much, but it is enough to prove u are beneficial to the society since u have income to spend them to enhance the economy, theoretical since ure already rich in this case. want to afford a sports car or bungalow in kl and still have some money left from pro gaming? forget it. go start a business and the probability is higher.


do u think most accountant, business men love what they are doing? well they have to say they love it cuz just to prove what they are now, but, i think, if theyre already rich, they would do what they really like now wouldnt it? for example, most F1 racers come from very rich family, most students who study music as well, cuz they like what they are doing, dont really think they care a lot about the money at the 1st instance when they have their mind made up about it..if i am already rich, i would travel the world, for my entire life, learn every language that i possibly can learn


look whos the successful (i wouldnt consider they are rich, they would just have enough money to support their family for the rest of their life after they have retired and start some small business, since they have the capital from pro gaming) pro gamer out there in sc? boxer, flash, jaedoong, its like 1 out of 100 people from pro gaming can be that sucessful, would u willing to take this risk when u start pro gaming?

koreans are more dedicated as compared to the americans, cuz i think it is their attitude towards things that they do, as u know, most koreans and japanese work 10 hours a day, they are known for workaholic and dedication, those korean engineers who constructed the penang bridge finished their contract long before the deadline was reached just to earn that extra money. hell do the kpop celebrities dance so well cuz of the dedication, look at Rain in Ninja Assasin, he trained for 8 hours a day for 6 months and rest 1 day in a week for that movie even though he hated working out so much just to prove he is an overall performer.

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Oct 4 2011, 06:46 PM

u wouldnt want your children, assuming, all of your children go pro gaming for life now wouldnt u? even if they really like it

well u can say, 'oh its all good about esports' but on the other hand u dont want any of your children to go pro gaming for life becuz u know they are gonna regret it for not become a boss like any other business man who have a comfortable and successful life, well im not saying they have 100% become successful businessmen, but the probability is way higher than pro gaming itself

u think lee chong wei is really all good? whats he gonna do when he is retired? ok, he can coach, but thats all. yea he got a lot of fame, but i would rather be rich than having fame, well at least money can get me what i really like in the future, ie, travel around the world

i know the way i reason things is very selfish cuz u all can say lee chong wei does it for his country and not for himself, well, IMO, lee chong wei does this purely becuz he has passion and likes badminton, and not anything more than that, for country is phony reason just to attract more attention which faggots needed the most

i dare to make a hypothesis, assuming lee chong wei lost his malaysian citizenship by some reason, i believe singapore or any other country would give him a citizenship on the condition that he will represent that country for playing badminton and he will accept that offer

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Oct 5 2011, 04:46 AM

then people wont play so competitively and addictively, only top notch sportsmen get sponsor, and what make them to be so good to get sponsor are prolong training and maybe some form of drugs, whether legal or illegal drugs. do u think this is all good to the sportsmen themselves which in the end they get some irrecoverable injury and low pay when they are retired consider they have put so much efforts in their career. well it is good to spread the benefit of sports around the world, which is good for health, better community interaction, hence knows a lot of friend and become closer with them, if play moderately i mean.

so now, whats worst if ure involve in esports addictively? u make friends around the world in battle net is not truly ur friends becuz u cant get along with them except for playing with them, u cant get good health, u stil cant get rich sponsor even if u play competitively and addictively compared to other sports, and people will not recognise u as a sportsman after all u have done becuz u blame the sponsors not giving enough supprot to this esportsman. well in the end, do u really think this form of sports need that huge of sponsor? well i agree minor form of sponsor in esports is sufficient, which evidently people are still joining the malaysia WCG2011 even though the prize pool hasnt been announced.

he is one risk taker, would u risk it when u start playing badminton professionally knowing a lot have failed? in decades, many malaysian professional badminton players have failed, only now one talented and dedicated player has born, have u ever thought those who failed what life they having now even they dedicated their life in it? they get nothing near like what dato lck has now, becuz they lack talent, assuming their efforts are the same as what lck has put in. But talent is a thing that no one can determine it clearly until u prove it yourself after your dedication has put in, hence, lck took the risk to do it and success.

now, would u risk playing starcraft2 just to be like flash? look at idra in sc1, he was in korea for years, this shows his dedication, but he lacks talent in sc1. most people would just tell u to get a real job to be rich like flash, i believe dedication in work can get u to the finishing line, forget about the fame

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Oct 5 2011, 08:35 PM

china is in a very different situation, mainly because of poverty in the rural area, sports maybe be preferred over education in this case, since u dont need to buy books and stuff i guess, well majority of sports dont require a specific expensive tools, not like ure going to play polo in china anyway right

china sportsmen spend a lot of time to train, as well as china students spend 12 hours in school from 6am to 6pm

people there 笑穷不笑娼, a lot of poor females in china become prostitutes in the end

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Oct 5 2011, 09:50 PM

how to put them together as u mentioned is the difficult part, most of them dont know, but in real jobs, most of them do know how to put their shit together cuz a lot of people are doing it with success, what i want to say is involving in esports to earn money has a very low success rate, im not saying it is impossible to earn a lot of money in esports, but most of them didnt think to be a pro gamer until they know they have talent in the game, most of them started sc2 just to have fun as everyone is playing, with this said, it proves that training hard in starcraft is not like opening a business, most of the people would still open a business even though they have no passion in the field of business, but the money is there for them to earn, whereas in starcraft, u cannot earn from it if u dont have passion in it, just like badminton, pro players wont play badminton just for money if they have no passion in it, lee chong wei is the example of earning money with passion, but still, the money is one partly factor to motivate him


earning money with pure passion is not always gonna work as young people nowadays think, probably becuz young people have a lot of false passions. people with more experience; especially the elders, they know what carreer is gonna work and make sure the youngster wont regret the path they are about to take, the elders might be wrong sometimes but most of the time, they are correct

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Oct 9 2011, 07:11 PM

i just finished my degree not long ago, still need to study, fml yo