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 Satria's Owners thread V23, TT on 25-11-2011

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post Oct 10 2011, 05:53 AM

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Wow, feeling sorry for you, reef_d. I'm starting to think all those with 2nd hand Satria Neos should go check whether this issue is going to affect you or not.

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post Oct 11 2011, 06:57 PM

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madman,

I don't think you can test the compression ratio with simply a pressure/compression gauge.


Hint to the troll who knows how to Google,

First, visit maddriver or Google to check what is the unit of the reading you get from such a gauge. Then try to figure out what is the unit of a engine compression ratio.


From pissed off kampung boy.

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post Oct 12 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Oct 12 2011, 01:54 PM)
wanna kena report again ka?


Added on October 12, 2011, 1:56 pmwent to see my mini getting chopped today....... Now the car botak just like me!
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Happy that you got your desired car. Mini with God of Mini JCW engine inside.
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post Oct 13 2011, 12:18 PM

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Never used before...


Added on October 13, 2011, 12:20 pm
QUOTE(maddriver @ Oct 13 2011, 11:54 AM)
if standard, ngk 6 or equalivent. if serious mods, ngk 7 or equalivent
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What about cars like mine, shin and yours?

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post Oct 14 2011, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 14 2011, 02:51 PM)
Tak payah loh....I have maddriver's custom adjustables, good enough
Still comfortable compared to most of them out there tongue.gif
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Not using Hotbits anymore?
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post Oct 15 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 15 2011, 02:04 AM)
I never use HotBits adjustable suspension before
Just the header
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Oops, I mean HWL.
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post Oct 15 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 15 2011, 10:31 AM)
Should just tell him go straight for JASMA
It is billet and have 20% more duration than stock cam, close shop, end of story

Those kinds are the one that is asking for the impossible and yet never did any research on how a performance cam actually runs. If he knows, he wouldn't ask for that kind of specification at all
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Well, I think he has at least done some research on how a performance cams works, but sad to say, unless there is a simulation model or actual testing done to test the camshafts (with matching mods and dyno), its hard to compare cams just by any specifications, moreover if it's from different brands.
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post Oct 17 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Oct 17 2011, 11:12 PM)
if that's the case, better get a lightened crank pulley....... cuttlefish can vouch for that.......
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I can vouch for that too, one of those mods you can actually feel!
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post Oct 18 2011, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(Bell&Ross @ Oct 18 2011, 12:00 AM)
but the price can make my backside koyak.hahahaha
need save money first
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Yeah, just get one without damper. Mine's without damper as well.
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post Oct 18 2011, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 18 2011, 07:26 AM)
Exactly....the dome in his pistons is like Pharoah's pyramid
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There's this flat vs piramid like pistons comparison and it seem the flat have its own advantages provided the compression ratio is not too far off.
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post Oct 18 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_swk @ Oct 18 2011, 07:58 PM)
yes.. even inside the car..
1 problem.. when u're driving with aircond, half way u switch it off, the aircond part still coming out with aircond.. anything wrong?
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Why do you think it is something wrong? Aircond the evaporator part (or is it condenser?), whatever that is, I always get confused, the cooling coil that is, when it is cooled, surely it will take some time to warm up, no?
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post Oct 18 2011, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_swk @ Oct 18 2011, 08:48 PM)
x tao la boss, never been experienced with this before..  nissan sunny and sentra never give me this problem before smile.gif
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Its normal what, when blower is still on and cooling coil still cold.
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 21 2011, 12:30 AM)
damn, kena undercarriage after going through a "god knows since when there is a small pointy hump" on my way back from cinema

Plus it has no stripes at all.....caught me off guard, hit my bottom kinda hard, dammit. Luckily exhaust nothing wrong but undercarriage can see the damage to the chassis. Bengkok masuk man 2 parts below the driver's seat all due to humps sweat.gif doh.gif mad.gif
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It's ok, the chasis can take some knock/dent but it still won't bend the car. I don't know how dented my chassis is from the way it is jacked by my mech. It's because its hollow and you're just bending the bottom part of it.


Added on October 21, 2011, 5:51 am
QUOTE(kambing69 @ Oct 21 2011, 01:49 AM)
madman or kcng . . . or anyone...

Do you guys recommend to reallocated the battery from in front to back ... Anyone know where can i do it..
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The main purpose of this is not to overheat your battery and hence extend its lifetime.


Added on October 21, 2011, 5:52 am
QUOTE(archonixm @ Oct 21 2011, 01:43 AM)
Then u no scare blow again, coz CR too high? huhu
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He is rich, his car run purely on RON97.

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post Oct 21 2011, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Oct 21 2011, 07:56 AM)
the car weight distribution / weight transfer during cornering... everything is calculated with the car the way it is...
transferring / moving things around will throw the distribution off balance...

it is just not as simple as moving it to the back to lighten the front...
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alot of ppl say, move batt to back, front lighter, wont understeer... concept is true in general but there is much much more that that.....
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should ask your fren to go standalone straight la... dont bother with EMS la... basically just a close mirror map of the R3 ecu map only...
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Did he mean Works EMS piggyback ECU? How is that a mirror map of an R3 ECU map?
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post Oct 21 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Oct 21 2011, 02:29 PM)
but then again with regards to battery relocation...
just to add on to orang gila...

- how heavy is a battery at best? 10kg? 12kg?
unless u are a track car and very anal about weight distribution specific to the driver's requirements, for a normal road going car... RM 1000 says that you will not feel any difference at all
(unless u drive like u are on track all the time la like some one i know here, hint: shinning head .. whistling.gif but that too will be very minimal difference as the car will still have spare tyre, interior trimmings etc in place..)

then u have to ask this to yourself, dont those car manufacturers already taken into account the optimal weight distribution (with the battery in front) during the RnD process?
and then suddenly some hero comes in and with a RM 300 (i think for relocating the battery cost) and voila, RM 300 > RM millions in RnD

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- about extending battery life?
lets just take a malaysia scenario...
u relocate a battery to the trunk of the car... and then u park under the hot sun.. which compartment do u think will be hotter? the engine bay or the trunk of the car? chances are the engine bay will be cooler then the trunk due to its "openess"
why do u think after u park under the hot sun, u open the door to "air" the cabin before getting inside?

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true when the engine is started, the engine generates heats, lots of them, but do remember, under the engine bay is a large open area where as your car move, air comes in and out (air movement laaaaa)....
there can be more arguements to this but there is still no real scientific proof to this... more like placebo effect to me..
(like those useless RM 100 mod where after spending RM 100 on that mod, your brain think that your car really has more power)


so in my opinion, bah... i already stated it...
but then again, their money, their style...
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Man, can't help myself laughing at your ridiculous posts. You've easily spent few 10k in modding cars alone and you now you're saying you shouldn't because theirs no way your mod will do better than car manufacturers RND?

And you're laughing at everything Works Engineering, man, didn't you actually bought and install that? If you're so good, don't even get it at the first place.

I don't know how your car front compartment is, but the battery is right below the front bonet on my car with like 0.5 to 1 cm clearance? In a "MALAYSIA" scenario, under the hot sun, what makes you think what you're thinking is correct?
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post Oct 21 2011, 03:41 PM

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And kcng,

Enough of your whining, give yourself some rest. Really, sincere from my heart. wink.gif
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post Oct 21 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Oct 21 2011, 03:54 PM)
yes... angkat tangan kaki agree....

once u ignore it.... u will not care about it anymore...
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wah another BOT on neo... engine bay is already quite small to start with
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RM 10k on modding what?
where did u pluck this figure from?

i think you have a very shallow understanding of car modding vs manufacturer RnD.
and dont know what is the difference between on paper spec and the real specs...


oh on that particular brand...
let me quote this easy to understand (hopefully) example...
billet cam will always be better then regrind/stock.. why is that so? hope u know else... turn left and...
(i will not go into details on this until ....)

then there is the thing with regards to paper specs and real life application of the paper specs..
things can sound impressive on paper, but when manufactured out and applied to daily use, it can fall short, real short...
not only in automotive, there is plenty of other cases too...
PKFTZ?
1Malaysia?

modding cars is also about experiments (or if u wan to go techie, RnD) at your own cost on YOUR OWN car as you do what u like to YOUR OWN car. some can screw the car up and some might/could make it better.
in order to do that, u need to know the manufacturer reasoning first....
- why it is done this way?
- why it is designed this way?


actually i would not say mod, i should say customization as each owner will have their own car customized to their own taste...

and btw dood, one simple test
put your car under the hot sun for quite some time...
then use butt-dyno to check, interior of the car or the engine bay compartment, which one will be slightly cooler?
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really.. that is the best comeback?
awww come on, i expected more.....
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Man, your posts are really funny.
Give you an example, you yourself are using so adjustables and then awhile ago you're telling the whole world the best handling does not mean "whack corner kao kao".
Don't you think you're slapping yourself in your mouth?
The RM 100 mod? Air filter? You didn't do it before?
Man, you're a real joker.


Added on October 21, 2011, 8:05 pmAnd regarding the cam that you once got and installed?

So you're just another who just know how to look at specs la, the more the better? The higher lift the better? Right?


Added on October 21, 2011, 8:09 pmAnd regarding the temperature at the front compartment or cabin/rear bonet, do you feel very hot when you go inside your car after parking in the hot sun for sometime?

Well, sure hot la, but not that HOT when you're comparing to the engine when it is running.


Added on October 21, 2011, 8:18 pmAnd by the way, those modding their cars out there, are they USING YOUR CAR for modding?

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post Oct 22 2011, 06:28 AM

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LOL, you dare say this in KL? I have to stuck in jams at least 1 to 2 hrs a day to get work.


Added on October 22, 2011, 7:32 amAnd kc,

Now you know what, while I appreciate your ability to put some thought into everything you do, you must also be neutral in your thinking to be able to achieve any good from that. So you put some thought as to why people would want to relocate their car batteries to the back, and then think if its applicable in a hot country like in Malaysia. But think of this, if it is not applicable in a hot country like Malaysia, where the heck in the world would anyone relocate their batteries (for extending its life at least), in the cold countries where temperature is not an issue (since you said the car is so cool when the car is moving because air gets circulated)?

And you know what, before you say its hot in the cabin, try driving in the afternoon with aircond off and windows up, and before you actually do that, I beg you to cease your pointless arguments, because that's how I drive day and night. And its not that hot actually.


Added on October 22, 2011, 7:35 amAnd kc,

There's always different views on how you see things. Just like how a glass of water is either half full or half empty. Obviously its half empty for you.


Added on October 22, 2011, 7:39 amZaypher,

You should quote the "modding is all about spending money afterall... we learn from mistake and move on...."

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post Oct 22 2011, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Oct 22 2011, 09:05 AM)
to kcng and gfx......
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best in singapore, chicago and some say, batam!
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Thanks maddriver, I think I should just keep quiet before more flames is coming my way and just lookout for those interesting makan trips of yours.


Added on October 22, 2011, 10:49 am
QUOTE(Zaypher @ Oct 22 2011, 09:03 AM)
modding is about spending money but it's the best to learn from others' mistakes. I normally read, research, ask and think before I make decisions. As for the bucket seat, i regretted not asking enough tongue.gif or was it stubborn? hehe
Actually GFX, on relocating the battery....you have a good point but I'm of the humble view that car's manufacturer would have thought of removing the car to the rear of the car if they view it fit. There are other things involved here which is beyond anyone's comprehension here (at least, those who are getting fired up), so don't have to resort to any A4-47s..

And...
I believe that sun should not set upon an argument. Heard that line from a song? Yes smile.gif
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Actually I'm not recommending ppl to do it, just that if one were to do it, the only advantage I see is that, to protect the battery. Btw, you know battery can get awfully bad, with water and acid coming out and please, I don't want my car trunk to rust just yet.


Added on October 22, 2011, 10:51 am
QUOTE(AceCombat @ Oct 22 2011, 10:19 AM)
What if I keep on with my 0.9 bar and I check the water level everyday?
Cos I takut using 1.3 will crack my super old radiator sweat.gif
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Why do you want to remove the reservoir tank?

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