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soonwai
post Mar 23 2016, 08:54 AM


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QUOTE(Sillymexican @ Mar 23 2016, 06:09 AM)
ok thanks - new to this forum malarky
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No probs. I have a guide, see my sig, for getting 12mths of ISDN speed mobile internet with DiGi for RM38/yr. Probably a wee bit too slow for you but good as a backup. How's the telco coverage in your area? Probably best to check for coverage first before checking for the price. In terms of price, Maxis tends to be the most expensive while the others (DiGi, UMobile, Celcom, Altel) are very competitive.

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post Mar 23 2016, 11:30 AM


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Sillymexican If you're coming into Malaysia at KLIA2, there's a UMobile store just outside the arrival hall where you can pick up a free prepaid SIM card. Just flash your passport. There're also Celcom and Maxis shops there but I don't think they have any freebies.
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post Mar 23 2016, 11:35 AM


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Did you know that hotspots at a few McDonalds and Starbucks stores are provided by Mikrotik routers?

Free wifi at NZ Natural Gamuda Walk and Brotzeit Midvalley are using Mikrotik as well.

The coffee shop near my house is using stock Maxis Thomson router, not too bad. Holds up pretty well. Much better than stock TM routers.

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post Mar 24 2016, 01:01 AM


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Can you do the following exports in terminal and past the output here.

/interface bridge export
/interface bridge port export

or just check whether your etherX are switched or bridged. Normally ether1-gateway is standalone, ether2 is master and ether3-5 are slaved to ether2.

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post Mar 27 2016, 01:25 AM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 26 2016, 11:10 AM)
Hello,  I was just upgraded to Time 500mbps and have to change my router. Currently using Asus RT-N12HP at the max it does on LAN is 100mbps sad.gif

Thinking of getting the Mikrotik RB951G-2HND.
Sorry for the noob question, but does this support 500mbps over LAN?  And how fast is it's wifi?  300mbps?
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RB951G-2HND won't be good enough.

As far as Mikrotik's routing speed is concerned, the rule of thumb that I go by is half of what is stated by Mikrotik for the 25ip filter rules test for 1518 Byte packet size. This is kinda based on IMIX applied to Mikrotik's performance results and my laziness. It's easier to take half than to do a spreadsheet.

So based on that, the 951G and RB2011 are only good enough for about 350mbps. The hAP AC for 480mbps and the RB3011 for 1.2gbps.

Also bear in mind that, if I'm not wrong, Mikrotik's tests do not include NAT so take another 25% off that. I don't know what version of ROS the tests were performed on so I don't know if it included the performance benefits of fastpath and fasttrack.
On the fastrack wiki page, it mentions the RB2011 jumping from 360 to 890mbps with fastrack.

Routing performance varies depending on many things. If you're not going to be playing with firewalls, QOS, VPNs or VLANs then it's much cheaper to get an NAT hardware accelerated router like the TP-Link WDR4300 (claimed 800mbps) or an Edgerouter Lite. (I don't actually recommend the TPLink.)

If you're going with Mikrotik, I'd probably say at least the RB3011 (plus cost of wifi AP) for 500mbps. Unless Mikrotik can come up with more performance enhancements for the RB2011 or hAp AC.

More reading:
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=86591
http://michael.stapelberg.de/Artikel/fiber7_ubnt_erlite

As for WiFi, RB951G-2HnD is dual chain (2x2 MIMO), max 300mbps N. hAP AC is triple chain (3x3 MIMO), max 450mbps N, 1200mbps AC.

One more thing, hardware accelerated NAT usually comes with its own set of caveats or limitations like using certain features will disable hw NAT so you have to check first.

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post Mar 27 2016, 01:43 AM


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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Mar 26 2016, 09:34 PM)
What!?

Does that mean that we need at least a rm3011 or ccr1009 to have 1Gbps PPPoE connections?
(PS: or RB1100AH, forgot about that)
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For 1Gbps PPPoE, I think even the RB1100AHx2 is cutting it close if firewall and QOS are used. RB3011 will be running too hot. But it's interesting to see what Mikrotik is doing with Fasttrack.
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post Mar 27 2016, 02:13 AM


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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 27 2016, 02:04 AM)
RB2011 routing performance is really pathetic without fastpath. Mikrotik fasttrack/fastpath doesn't work on PPPoE, & the throughput is much lower than what the routing performance advertised.

Edgerouter lite firmware originally doesn't support PPPoE offload when they first launched, but they did add the support later on. But you will have to confirm with Edgerouter lite users what is the actual PPPoE throughput achievable. I no longer have access to one, so I cannot test it.
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I remember that with the ERL, PPPoE had to be configured via the CLI when they first added it.

As for Fastpath, PPPoE & Mikrotik. This was from last month's MUM in Europe. So fingers crossed.
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Hopefully someone with Time 500mbps can test it out. I'm stuck with UniFi for the foreseeable future.

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post Mar 27 2016, 02:25 AM


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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Mar 27 2016, 02:14 AM)
but sadly no TIME Fiber to test
*sob sob*
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Must consider selling house and buy condo with Time Fibre. :-)
Or who knows, maybe TM will follow in Time's footsteps and give us all a nice *free* upgrade.

Nah, probly not.

remeron When you upgraded to 500mbps, didn't Time give you a new DLink Linksys router?

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post Mar 27 2016, 02:15 PM


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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Mar 27 2016, 02:29 AM)
TM called, told me i was a loyal customer and asked me to pay the exact same price everyone else is paying to change from 10Mbps to 30Mbps
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Lol, what to do if we have no choice but TM.
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post Mar 27 2016, 03:15 PM


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jio Thanks for the speed tests. I guess it's safe to say that the RB951 n RB2011 is only good enough for 100mbps PPPoE & NAT while leaving some leeway to put in a few firewall filters and a bit of QOS.

Here's a thread from our friends in .SG with lots of real life tests for Mikrotik & 100+Mbps fiber.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/next-gen...3629775-16.html

From: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/85146892-post219.html
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Does Singtel's FTTH use PPPoE?

Edit:
This guy has an RB2011 with PPPoE maxing out his 300mbps at 38% CPU.
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=105252

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post Mar 27 2016, 04:05 PM


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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 27 2016, 03:36 PM)
I think they only have to use VLAN & DHCP for the WAN, no need for PPPoE.
http://proud2bnerd.blogspot.my/2014/09/rep...outer-with.html
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OK, thanks, lack of PPPoE encapsulation probably explains the speeds they're getting with the RB2011.
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post Mar 28 2016, 06:25 PM


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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 27 2016, 05:33 PM)
I made mistake of running the bandwidth test directly on the RB951, which is then bottlenecked by the CPU. Using the PC to run the bandwidth test on v6.34.3 almost reach 300Mbps. On v6.35RC42, I measured about 880Mbps. Can safely say RB951G can handle 500Mbps just fine with the upcoming v6.35.
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I read your updated post. Wow! 880Mbps is quite impressive for a RM400 wifi router. For your test was the RB951 using default configuration? PPPoE & NAT as well? How did you test? iPerf?
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post Mar 29 2016, 02:25 AM


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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 28 2016, 11:19 PM)
actually should we have the fasttrack option enabled on our routers ? it seems a lil bit redundant as marked traffics would directly bypass NAT/Firewall ? and QoS would not work...

any proper use case for this feature ? unsure.gif
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Getting dizzy reading about Fastpath/Fasttrack. Perhaps one might do something like Fasttrack all VOIP traffic while the rest still goes through the normal queues. Or if you're a gamer, Fasttrack your DOTA connections. Something like that.

remeron Earlier I said that the RB951G-2HND won't be good enough for 500mbps but it looks like with Fastpath, it's quite feasible.

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post Mar 30 2016, 06:40 PM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 29 2016, 10:55 AM)
@soonwai @jio

thanks for the all the info. Really appreciate it. I need to read up on fastpath.  I have no idea what it is. I'm still considering to get the RB951G.  My brother in law is giving me his D-Link DIR-860L. I wonder how both of them stack up with each other.
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No probs. This is DIR-860L performance from smallnetbuilder but their WAN to LAN test doesn't use PPPoE so actual throughput will probably be less. It would be interesting to see how the DLink does in real life.

Stumbled across this earlier.
Turning a router into an AP (from DLink Forums)
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0

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post Mar 31 2016, 12:18 AM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 30 2016, 07:03 PM)
Finally got the router from my brother in law, and it's actually DIR-850L, not 860L sad.gif

So far, with LAN, i can achieve about 430mbps down/up with speed test. Wireless, although I don't have the specific tools to measure, just "feeling", it feels slightly sluggish compared to my Asus RT-N12HP. Wireless Speetest with my Macbook 2009, I measured at 95mbps down/up. In terms of router software, it's horrible.  Very limited.  Don't even have DHCP reservation.  DDNS only limits to DYN service. Port forwarding limited to 15 rules.
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I think that's better. 850L is actually faster, at 900mbps, according to smallnetbuilder.

430mbps is quite good. I assume this is default config? Can you do some tests, if you start turning on features such as QOS or Firewall or even port forwarding, whether it has any effects on the speed of the router.

Did you test your MBP on 2.4 or 5GHz? Cos at 2.4Ghz Macs will only connect at up to 150mbps. (20 Mhz channel width)

If you have a newer model phone which supports AC, try speedtest with that. I managed to get about 370mbps with my iPhone 6S connected to a DAP-1665 AP. edit: To clarify, 370mbps is iPerf test between phone and my Mac, not internet speedtest.

dyndns is actually a fairly good paid only service and once registered for free with DLink devices, you can use it with any router.

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post Mar 31 2016, 12:37 PM


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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 31 2016, 12:22 PM)
anyone know whether in malaysia can get ac lite already? I am eagerly waiting for this.
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AFAIK, no one has it locally but honestly, for a router, I'd skip this one because:
1. CPU performance: Good enough for Unifi 30 or 50 maybe even 100 but what if TIME suddenly became available in your area.
2. 100mbit FE ports
3. Single chain 5Ghz

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post Apr 1 2016, 12:27 AM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 31 2016, 10:53 AM)
Tested again on the 5Ghz and the MBP reached about 160mbps up/down.  Dyndns is not bad except that I have been using namecheap for years and already paid until 0ct 2016 sad.gif

Yes, the LAN speed is satisfying. I only use port forwarding. Tested the wifi with the Huawei Mate 8 (which is suppose to have ac), and the max speedtest is 25mbps. The general feeling I get is the router is good, just that it's not consistent when it comes to wireless throughput.  That's a gut feeling though, not based on any measurements.  Hehe.
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I think that's about the same wifi speed I get from my 2010 MBP on 5GHz N copying files from my Mac. I'm using a DLink DAP-1665 AP for my 5GHz N and AC needs.

I'm using Namecheap's DDNS too. I have a script for my Mikrotik that updates Namecheap every time the IP changes and emails me when that happens. As it turns out, it's also good for letting me know when TNB has restored electricity after a blackout or when Unifi comes back from an outage. Mikrotik has its own free DDNS but the domain name is unwieldy. It's like 113305ab2349.sn.mynetname.net but it's free and effortless to setup, just one or maybe 2 clicks. Having 2 DDNS is always good in case one of them is down or isn't updated for whatever reason.

25mbps for the Mate 8 is definitely not good. I get consistent 30mbps on my iPhone 6S on 2.4 or 5Ghz N or AC. No jokes about my UniFi *Advance* 30 please.

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post Apr 1 2016, 08:12 PM


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QUOTE(MX510 @ Apr 1 2016, 04:56 AM)
Bro do u mind sharing the script?

Which Router OS version are you using now?
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Sure, script pasted below. I'm currently on 6.34.2 on my RB2011UAS-2HnD. bro, are you still selling Mikrotik or more into services/solutions?

You probably don't remember me but I bought my first Mikrotik from you. It was an RB750G.

QUOTE(remeron @ Apr 1 2016, 01:14 PM)
That's a really cool feature!  Would love to have that.  Was thinking of buying the TP-Link Archer C7, now I'm thinking maybe should go for the Microtik again.
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Save money and use your DLink lah, if not just jump in and go for Mikrotik. But seriously I'd wait a bit to see what's coming in the near future. I'm looking for reports on performance & stability on the hAP AC, RB3011, RB850Gx2. Because at 500mbps and if you intend to play around with the router, you'll need some extra cpu.

QUOTE(mamakap @ Apr 1 2016, 03:36 PM)
Interesting subject, I also want to know the script to run the name cheap DDNS. Currently using there SSL and hosting services for my work.
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Script below. Originally taken from the Mikrotik wiki for another ddns provider and then modified a little bit for Namecheap.

Just change the globals to yours. A few things are hardcoded: pppoe interface name, email address & smtp server. There's no error checking if the ddns update fails or sending email encounters an error. So you just schedule this script to run every few seconds or few minutes as you please.

CODE
:global ddnsserv "dynamicdns.park-your-domain.com"
:global ddnshostname "cctv1"
:global ddnsdomain "soonwai.com"
:global ddnspass "44274h3e71dbe7cd18e1d8ab5877267d5ac3"

:global ddnsip
:global ddnslastip
:global strdate [/system clock get date]
:global strtime [/system clock get time]
:global strsystemname [/system identity get name]
:global strsystemuptime [/system resource get uptime]
:global strsystemfreemem [/system resource get free-memory]
:global strsystemcpuload [/system resource get cpu-load]
:global ddnssystem ("Version-" . [/system package get system version] )

:global ddnsip [ /ip address get [/ip address find interface=pppoe-out1 ] address ]

# Strip the net mask off the IP address
:for i from=( [:len $ddnsip] - 1) to=0 do={
   :if ( [:pick $ddnsip $i] = "/") do={
       :set ddnsip [:pick $ddnsip 0 $i]
      }
  }

:if ([ :typeof $ddnslastip ] = nil ) do={ :global ddnslastip "0" }
:if ([ :typeof $ddnsip ] = nil ) do={
  :log info ("DDNS: No ip address present on pppoe interface, dammit TM.")
} else={
 :if ($ddnsip != $ddnslastip) do={
   :log info ("DDNS: Updating $ddnsip $ddnslastip")
   :local str "/update?host=$ddnshostname&domain=$ddnsdomain&password=$ddnspass&ip=$ddnsip"
   /tool fetch address=$ddnsserv src-path=$str mode=http dst-path=("/disk1/DynDNS.".$ddnshostname)
   :log info "DDNS: Sending Email"
   /tool e-mail send to=soonwai@lowyat.net subject="UniFi IP $strdate $strtime $strsystemname" body="$strsystemname $strdate $strtime \r$ddnshostname.$ddnsdomain \r$ddnssystem\rUniFi IP: $ddnsip \rPrevious IP: $ddnslastip \rUptime: $strsystemuptime \rFree memory: $strsystemfreemem kb \rCPU Load: $strsystemcpuload % " start-tls=yes server=[:resolve smtp.gmail.com]
   :global ddnslastip "$ddnsip"
 } else={
#    :log info "DDNS: No update required."
   }
}


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post Apr 2 2016, 01:06 AM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Apr 1 2016, 01:14 PM)
That's a really cool feature!  Would love to have that.  Was thinking of buying the TP-Link Archer C7, now I'm thinking maybe should go for the Microtik again.
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That's not cool. This is cool. smile.gif

Overclocking Your Router Made Easy (or downclocking also can)
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Obtaining Your Microwave's RES (Radiation Emission Signature) (in case it got stolen and recovered and the police needs proof it's yours)
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NB: Sample is with KFC inside microwave, results may differ with other food.

The spectral scan waterfall display is also useful for pretending to be the sonar operator in a hunter killer sub.

That strong green line on the right is Maxis' LTE band 7 or something, I forgot.

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post Apr 6 2016, 01:15 AM


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QUOTE(remeron @ Apr 2 2016, 04:47 PM)
Ya, I think you're right, I'll use the dlink and see how it goes...but..

stop poisoning me man!  I'm a sucker for scripting and rooting all things.....
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LOL, sorry, don't mean to but I never knew that routers could be so much fun.

I'm currently testing the RB941-2nD (hAP Lite), this little thing is pretty good. The WiFi is actually not bad. And it's so damn cheap. It works great as a router for UniFi 30 and 50. Should be OK for 100mbps maybe. The low 32mb ram is a bit of a prob but more than enough for normal users. 10.6 mb free after boot, router says enough for 23000 connections.

I'm currently testing of 2 of these as wired APs in place of 1 RB951Ui-2HnD. They're cheaper and will probably provide better coverage and reception. I'm always in favour of more lower power APs instead of 1 strong one where possible. We'll see.

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