Oic.

Unless with property companies which may not move in at all, I guess most other individual investors will not leave their properties vaccant whilee waiting for buyers to come. For me, we will most likely move in or rent out to lecturers or students and hold it till the area is more mature in facility development, then only we sell. Semi-d always command a premium price of its own and a different market appeal compared to link homes and we are not worried at all about its future appreciation value.
Right now, we are actually future residents of BSC community.

Upgrade: stayed in BU for a no. Of years and found the DSL cramp though newer than those in Tmn. Megah. Semi-D in BSC is a big upgrade= new and happy open space!
Downgrade: fewer food choices in BSC at least for 2 years I guess. Will miss all the fantastic chinese and mamak food in SS2, Kelana Jaya. Anybody know of good chinese hawker food outlets in say, sg. Buloh and kota damansara? These 2 will be nearer towns to BSC for food. Hypermart may go to Carrfour in kota damansara. Any nearer outlet for grocery? The wet market in BSC belongs to Majlis Daerah Kuala Selangor. Klk will not build it as it has been surrendered to the Govt. as a public plot and a project under public utility, according to KLK under the law.
It depends on how MDKS prioritise the wet market construction, and meanwhile, they may allow pasar pagi.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 5 2012, 07:57 PM

Thanks.

Did you mean jalan Meru Tambahan?

I am increasingly getting a much clearer picture when I dwell into this subject. I would say clearly there isn't any issue at all with the future of BSC. Initially, by just looking at it, most of us will tend to look at Desa coalfields(DC) and wonder if the same atmosphere ( many shops abandoned) of quietness and slow property appreciation might happen to BSC. However, the time in around 2004 when DC was first sold, it was rather lonely till even now. Few shops are open therefore because of insufficient demand. Now with BSC added in and the revival of housing schemes in Puncak Alam, with prices around RM400,000, people will buy here. Those days in 2004, there were still plenty of newly built home choices to buy in BU, Subang Putra heights and of late Denai Alam for double the price, but no longer anymore now. This may explain the quick sale in BSC. Now, World wide is also selling new homes across the road. With this, the population will grow many times. Prices of new homes here are still relatively low. Compared to Putrajaya, cyberjaya and Rawang(all are further away compared with BSC to and from the work places that are centered around KL/PJ/Shah Alam), many will find travel time from BSC to work tolerable still. This home crowd will bring in the businesses and facilities will definitely increase. On roads, even now, it is a smooth journey from BSC to Guthrie Hwy to Jln. Sg. Buloh to Kota Damansara that will provide the much needed shopping and food amenities.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 6 2012, 03:38 AM

According to klk, BSC is 1,000 acres. What about BU and DJ?

I checked wikipedia too and it says Bandar Utama 1 to 12 is 1,000 acres. Thus, it means BSC is about the same size as BU! Looking at the size of SS2 which have homes and shops, it is much smaller but its locations and facilities make it a prime area of PJ. SS 2 township has flourished as it long serves residents from several sections. Population demand is therefore the key factor whether there will be plenty of goods and services at BSC. This in turn will determine its future property values. If it is a vibrant township, people from Kundang, Rawang and Ijok will come over as they are nearby. I hope BSC has outlets like ordinary coffee shops, Old Town Coffee/ Hainam Coffee like those in PJ, malls with cineplexes and many more hawker food with prices more affordable than those in Kota Damansara etc.
And this is NOT something within KLK's control. Instead, shoplot purchasers who wish to get business tenants should strategise. Or you may see like what is happening in Desa Coalfields- mostly vehicle service business! With today's communication technology advance, you can quite easily contact all other shoplot buyers and together identify a well-balanced variety of successful businesses activities that you wish to attract and collectively, approach the various business concerns to come and rent your premises. It works for the benefits of ensuring businesses can survive and for you, lasting tenants. This will go a long way to benefit the community as well where I am apart of it. On this, Klk should be able to help out as this boosts your sales.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 8 2012, 09:16 PM

Are you on some 'high' fashion statement? haha....bad, real bad way to catch my attention la...ma'am! I had a look at some of your wares though .

In case this's the way you want to get across, save your time and trouble! Or, unless business is bad? If so, let me know, hahaha. Maybe I may help on charity basis lo...

Btw, I am sure your little mind can only imagine our postings as telling SYYORY'. you need a lesson or two on finance and economics, I can assume that you need help on the meaning of simple terms like 'demand' and 'supply', what are 'goods' and 'services' and blah blah...for you to appreciate more of the subject in discussion.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 9 2012, 04:30 AM

thank you. I read from another lowyat forum that there is a new Tesco store coming up in Puncak Alam but someone there disputed.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=56029575

Will check with the Tesco management tomorrow to verify. If it is true, it will be only a few km from BSC and this will be very good news indeed!

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 15 2012, 07:01 PM

Have called Tesco general line but noone answered. Anyway Tesco was marked in wikimapia:
In puncak bestari (opposite Puncak Alam) about 7.6 km. from Bandar Seri Coalfields! There is no building in the map.
Perhaps some of you guys know more about this matter?

Today:
Called Tesco general line again and twice no answer. So rang the Worldwide Holdings no., the developer of Puncak Bestari where the sign Tesco is placed. Spoke to the markering department and yes, the answer is very affirmative - that there will be a new Tesco there, opposite the big mosque in Puncak Alam! This is only 7.6 km. away from Bandar Seri Coalfields, a very good news indeed!

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 19 2012, 04:38 PM

See answer in the fb group.

Hi, Everybody. We should go as a group as our good brother Jagdish has brought us in in Facebook here. For those who don't use Facebook, you can still list out what you need for your new homes in this open forum. We can be go as a group for the common purposes that will benefit everyone. This applies to bulk purchases of any common items that each and every household will require. Even before one can move in, we need the service of wiremen for extra plugs, built-in carpenters, tilesmen, designer cum renovators, kitchen appliances, and not least, air-cond. units etc. In making these purchases that can easily cost a sum, one can select the wrong brand and engage lousy installers. My personal experience can attest to this: We have had some pretty scary problem with unfit aircond. and water heater wiring that burns up in smoke in the middle of using the appliances because the installer simply solder and join many broken wires to make a long wire instead of giving a new one! Never expect this though b'cos these wires don't even cost much. For those who go for extra plug points, you may be given the plugs but there is no wire leading to it in the wall! You only find out later while you need to use them. Some brands of air-cond. can't cool if you set the temperature above 26. Just to name a few. To avoid fire and shock later, we need to share info from those of us who have knowledge of anything good they have in their homes, name them ie. by item and brand name. It will be up to the others to use this and/ or further serf the net on consumer reviews. After that, we can list out what we want individually here. I can volunteer my service to compile and update the list here. For items that have many request for purchase, the shops can then be approached by volunteers among us to negotiate a better price quotes. After that, we let the individual buyers call up the shop for the actual deal. No obligation to anyone anyhow. What say you?

I bring up this early so that we have ample time to gather information and be prepared. The aim - move in with comfort. Nowadays with fb to communicate among ourselves, we need not go about alone like in the olden days.

My suggestion:

1. Identify various items by brand name and no. of potential buyers in FB and here.

2. Get volunteers from the group to get the best price quotes from shops.

3. Announce prices in this forum and FB group.

4. Parties can arrange to go to the outlet concerned as a group and buy directly from the shop. You are not bound to anything should you change your mind.

There is no prior group invoice but just a tentative price quotes. This way nobody gets bound anyway.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 21 2012, 02:44 PM

Sorry folks, a correction is made to my posting:

Regarding the discounts for goods, it cannot be disclosed here as it may go against dealership conditions for some products and shop owners too may not want competitors to find out that they are selling below certain prices! Sending a private message to you will do.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Nov 27 2012, 04:33 AM

For the benefit of those forumers who didn't join Jagdish's Fb group:
I will have to withdraw from my earlier proposal above. Reason: I have come to realise that the free for all facebook page that Jagdish has in mind has posed a peril even when deals can be arranged through a close forum, when anyone can post privy matters in the fb page. Traders who give us good discounts don't need people to scream their prices all over, or fellow competitors will go after them. And then the latter will accuse all the buyers for they don't know who spread it and hammer all of them! Earlier in the group, I have thought only about the possibility of an accidental disclosure from the benefactors, and now let me bring you another scenario: If you think buyers will certainly not leak any info to protect themselves, yes if all are careful. Now push your thinking further: What about those in the forum who can't afford the deals? Are you not aware of jealousy?

And this, is made possible by one Jagdish who has set up an open Facebook page on BSC and insisted that it must be open despite knowing the perils. Anyone can post anything, according to him who had control over the format. I must say: A rascal may destroy a community's gains!

Some may join the close forum he offers to get into deals. For me, I need to stay away from Jagdish's forum as I value my life more than discounts. I won't need anything from a rascal.

As for his Fb page, the more people choose 'like' for the BSC page, you are increasing its newsfeed spread of things like this. Publicity here is only good for those who are selling their property. They fix up the homes with discount buys and leave the house vacant for sales, but those who join the deal and move in may suffer. You may be tricked to serve others' interest.


This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 1 2012, 03:13 AM

Haha.. my pleasure, I know my retirement time is rightly spent...well, it really dawn on me that I have taken up a hobby in tackling meanness and I am very proud of it. Here it is:

You have nothing else to counter my argument except to trash on the floor with your pants down? I just know you even in your shouts have betrayed your own pretence! A bad show at best. Am I sorry for flooring you? Nope. You know you defy logic, or have the demons succeeded in burrying your personal dignity and dinosaured your mind until you can only reject reasonable suggestions with a few pathetic screams?

Do not deceive yourself, you asked others from here to join a close group in facebook. Then it occurs to all that there is no screening there at all, meaning that fb group has no difference from this Lowyat forum at all. Then when that group's identity was established, you then suddenly ask all to move over to your own personal new forum subscribed by you. You didn't even say it is a close forum. I wonder whether it was intended to be an open forum to get more from here to join. Even new at start, I saw property advertisements there already. Much later and only after I stated the need for close door discussions, you then said members will be vetted. You didn't even thank me on taking up my ideas. Or are you doing this grudgingly?

This goes to show that obviously you know there are privy matters to protect us from the outside world yet you also at the same time set up another open forum in the form of a facebook page under the logo of BSC, where you insisted you as the administrator don't want to limit anyone who 'like' the page to pose anything. This page will be for anyone who are friends of friends to see. This despite you acknowledging the risk that info from the group might be posted there, and this includes privy matters like traders who give discounts.

You gave a superficial respond: you said if traders are not comfortable with their discounts being known by others, then don't sell at all. This is naive. If you are unlucky, you will meet those you can tell this or that, but they need your business badly and will just sell to you for a discount and hope nothing will happen next. If you expose their discounts and make them lose their dealership, then only they see the consequences and feel the pain, and they will come for you. As you scream: "I told you .." the knife will still be plunged, then you will be told that you are ungrateful and ignored their need to earn, even as they have earned less from you!

For the benefit of BSCians who were not in the fb group:
Your approach is: close at start and let loose at the end. This is inconsistency. Obviously, I know you don't want to reveal the reason for this. Or since I have quit the group for some days already, have you changed your stand of late? Before, I can find it even without the need to click 'like' but now I can't see it. I don't seem to be able to find the BSC fb page anymore. I see its usefulness to spread the name of BSC. The spread will be the no. of all who 'like' plus all their friends! This will help those of us who wish to sell our properties later. I have only requested that you the administrator should be the only one to post non-confidential news there, for all to see and even comment, but you spoiled this by saying anyone can post any topic. Btw, you have 'unfriend' me soon after, so thank you for making my friend list cleaner without you.

Do not demean others' knowledge on this. They are watching you.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 10 2012, 03:11 PM

Oh! You should come out clear on what you are LOLing at. If it is meant for the stupidity of any such 'community' purchases that was going to be done according to the means that we had discussed earlier, I would agree and give another round of LOL...! but if you are reacting to my reasoning on the subject matter, pardon me,you had a terrible miss again, this time around, your thinking faculty had clearly shrunk from a previous 1 sentence kind of utterance to a 3-letter exclamation...haha...I can well accept this kind of response if we meet in a game forum or msn messenger...I do have much time for these, but will go selective on who to chat with.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 7 2012, 02:48 AM

It is true desa coalfields population didn't seem sufficient to attract businesses much. Hopefully when Bandar Seri Coalfields population is added in, it can make a difference!

Thanks. There is widening of Jalan Kuala Selangor and Jalan Meru Tambahan! The widening of Jln. Kuala Selangor from the boundary with KL, Sg. Buloh all the way to the whole of Kuala Selangor will greatly encourage people from K. selangor to buy property in BSC and Puncak Alam! The widening of the road from the traffic light outside BSC to Puncak Alam is a breeze quick journey for BSC folks to go shop and eat in Puncak Alam where development now is centered. This is a great improvement to facilities! The Selangor Govt. should link up the widening of Jln. K. Selangor from its border all the way to the LDP. Then travelling from I Utama PJ to BSC K. will be much faster!

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 25 2012, 09:08 PM

Just a thought:
Bearing in mind the ever rising cost of living, and the difficulty of home ownership with home prices always increasing and never down, the Banyan2 semi-ds that offer 6 rooms will be a boon for either large families who wish to stick closely together or for a few sibblings to jointly service the loan together. My neighbours in Bandar Utama is a case example of 3 adult siblings staying with their mom and dad. It gets real packed with 6 cars parked in and outside the gate, as the house is only a link terrace home with 3+1 rooms. It was quiet all day long but when it comes to celebration time, with one of the sons getting married resently, and Chap Goh Meh the boisterous crowd with all members of the family plus their friends burning satay and fire crackers as well as having open-house buffet dinner catered under a tent is an envy to the other quieter homes on the same road! A semi-d will help improve the parking situation as everyone wish to park just outside the compound. What more they get to live in a semi-d. I am sure all can be proud. Though there are many people owning homes, the no. who own semi-ds is still small and even smaller no. can afford bungalows!

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 28 2012, 01:03 AM