so u do recommended only front? hmm but it wun look nice if only front got and back dun have..maybe i'll get both X) now..looking someone with paypal can buy for me T__T

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Added on November 5, 2011, 7:43 amwow but i think i like Pana 7-14 mm more...wider butv ery expensive

This post has been edited by jloi: Nov 5 2011, 07:43 AM

its only my opinion, but of coz a lot of people use front and back too, includes me, lols.

its just some button/dial will be a bit recessed, but with after a few usages, u will get accustomed to it.

Well I'm looking to take photographs as a hobby,
I want a decent camera with DSLR quality, but i don't want a DSLR because it's too bulky.
So i think the EP3 would fit the bill?

The only problem i have is the cost, which i am able to afford just barely.

I'm told that if you really wanted to spend 3k on a camera,
you might as well get a DSLR. As for the same price the quality's better.
Is that true?

Yeah ... Very Exp indeed !

who : hobbyst
why : small size, cost, quality
where : not sure , event , people or landscape
what : not sure , event , people or landscape
how : buy from shop lols.

i can't really argue regarding the quality or so related, because in my opinion,
camera is one of the factor deciding the quality but the main factor is the photographer himself.

if u think, u will enjoy smaller camera system, then micro4/3 (ie Olympus e-p3) will suit u better.
because i have many frens,who bought DSLR and then just leave it inside the wardrobe.
Maybe they are not prepare to bring the large camera to everywhere.

i was once into DSLR too, almost all olympus DSLR i have used (e-410,e-420,e-520,e-1,e-3). just recently in a few month i move into mirrorless 4/3 (olympus e-p3)

first impression, almost all my picture blurred out, due to my instability using camera without viewfinder and also without high quality and fast lens such as Olympus 14-54mm f2.8-3.5

but after a few usages, i've accustomed myself and also got myself the Leica 25mm 1.4 which never leave my camera

truth to say, study urself first, and make sure are u ready to jump into BIG camera system or "small" camera system. if u are into small one, i will suggest, u buy the oly e-p3 and if possible add a good prime such panasonic 20mm f1.7 (low budget) or PL 25mm 1.4 (high budget)

What about the Pentax Q

i was once a dslr user until i sold it and get Olympus E-P3 no regret..or maybe the only regret is no nice 3rd party flash X)..currently using nissin

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TZNS1096 by creezalird, on Flickr

Olympus e-p3 with PL 25mm 1.4

Hey guys, I'm just too lazy to do some homework on researching. Thus, I thought of getting some advices from you guys.

I'm looking for

Size: Compact and light. (I also owned a DSLR, but it's heavy for some occasion)
Quality: almost like DSLR quality I hope.
What I shoot: indoor gathering, dining area, and most important, for travel use.
Budget: > RM2k (but worst is I'm afraid Im buying more lens )

I know there is M4/3 as well as APS-C. What are the difference actually?
I saw there are few types of Oly Pen.

Which one do you recommend?

Sorry if I asked too many questions..

Budget: > RM2k ? typo maybe? because it can also mean that u can spent up to rm10k..lols

of course up to today, there are various generation of Olympus PEN.

the latest generation consists of Olympus e-p3 (high end), e-pl3 (medium/lite) and e-pm1 (mini/consumer low end)

basically all three use the same sensor and can be said the quality also has no different, if i'm not mistaken. The differences are only in certain physical factor, like extra direct buttons, dial buttons,touchscreen/tiltscreen etc and in software, almost no difference.

micro 4/3 sensor is basically the same size with the 4/3 sensor, they just remove the mirror and make the flange a little shorter,thus producing PEN series.

micro 4/3 sensor,compares to others like APS-C, main difference is the size. you can see it clearly with this comparison picture

if u prefer more buttons with extra touchscreen, go for olympus e-p3 ( costs around rm2700 with kit lens )
if u prefer tiltscreen, go for olympus e-pl3
if u prefer simplicity,more like compact camera, go for olympus e-pm1

for better indoor shooting, i recommend u get an external flashgun like metz 48-AF

but if u prefer no flash (due to weight or sumthing), get the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 (rm1450) but i've heard that the autofocus is not so impressive. but if u are shooting still static indoor, it should be no problem.

if u have more budget, certainly go for Panasonic Leica 25mm 1.4.
if u can live with a bit longer lens like olympus 45mm 1.8, this can be great lens too, only rm1k

Any idea what's the street price for 12mm now? Went to fotokem, RM3099, fixed.

Just got the Olympus E-P3 black...wanted the silver, but not very nice in hand compare to on screen...quickly did a test shot...the focusing is amazingly fast...I m going enjoy it...

This post has been edited by d@odao: Nov 6 2011, 06:33 PM

why 12mm also so pricey

wondering how much and where u bought ?

thanks

are u sure? even shashinki is selling for rm2599
if i'm not mistaken, selangor foto at pertama complex, quoted rm2500 for this lens. but i went with PL25mm then

About rm2.8 with free memory card and a free battery...

hi creezalird, may i ask some noob questions..im currently have a canon s95, thinking of upgrading to micro 4/3 as i found s95 didn't snap photos as quickly as i want sometimes, and will end up blur images too (maybe my hand shakes). anyway will be good if my new camera can shoot faster and has longer zoom.

but prob is i want it to be compact enough to take out to travel, don't wan to have external flash etc, best if could don't have to buy many lens (save money). is there a len which can do all the jobs? like my s95??

if micro 4/3 without lens, could it work as good as my s95?

many thanks!

first question, is ur s95 behaving like that indoor or outdoor? because if indoor, s95 actually one of the most reliable compact camera for indoor shooting, but if u feel the need for micro4/3, let me remind u, by using Auto mode or what so ever related, will never make u a better photographer. using micro4/3 or any advanced camera system, u need to learn almost all basic of photography such as aperture,ISO, shutter speed and DOF etc.

first u need to justify urself if u can live with prime lens aka no zoom lens. because micro4/3 is kind of new system and still dont have good fast zoom lens, but already have many good prime lens such as Panasonic 20mm 1.7, Leica 25mm 1.4 and Olympus 12mm 2.0 and Olympus 45mm 1.8

if u can live with prime lens, i can recommend u get the e-p3/e-pl3/e-pm1, all of them have, can say the fastest autofocus system.

why dont u find frens who are using this system too and try them out? if not, just go and buy one, try live with the kit lens first, if that wont satisfy u, get any of the prime lens mentioned above, cheapest one oly 45mm 1.8 but kind of a bit long for normal compact user, maybe get the Panasonic 20mm 1.7

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Added on November 7, 2011, 1:09 am
say "MEOWWW" by creezalird, on Flickr

This post has been edited by creezalird: Nov 7 2011, 01:09 AM

Hmmm... silver GX-1 look quite tasty afterall

Look nice but the old lenses can use or not?