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 Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V4, Pana & Oly mirrorless system camera!

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spiderwick
post Nov 6 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(creezalird @ Nov 6 2011, 02:46 PM)
Budget: > RM2k ? typo maybe? because it can also mean that u can spent up to rm10k..lols

of course up to today, there are various generation of Olympus PEN.

the latest generation consists of Olympus e-p3 (high end), e-pl3 (medium/lite) and e-pm1 (mini/consumer low end)

basically all three use the same sensor and can be said the quality also has no different, if i'm not mistaken. The differences are only in certain physical factor, like extra direct buttons, dial buttons,touchscreen/tiltscreen etc and in software, almost no difference.

micro 4/3 sensor is basically the same size with the 4/3 sensor, they just remove the mirror and make the flange a little shorter,thus producing PEN series.

micro 4/3 sensor,compares to others like APS-C, main difference is the size. you can see it clearly with this comparison picture user posted image

if u prefer more buttons with extra touchscreen, go for olympus e-p3 ( costs around rm2700 with kit lens )
if u prefer tiltscreen, go for olympus e-pl3
if u prefer simplicity,more like compact camera, go for olympus e-pm1

for better indoor shooting, i recommend u get an external flashgun like metz 48-AF

but if u prefer no flash (due to weight or sumthing), get the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 (rm1450) but i've heard that the autofocus is not so impressive. but if u are shooting still static indoor, it should be no problem.

if u have more budget, certainly go for Panasonic Leica 25mm 1.4.
if u can live with a bit longer lens like olympus 45mm 1.8, this can be great lens too, only rm1k
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hi creezalird, may i ask some noob questions..im currently have a canon s95, thinking of upgrading to micro 4/3 as i found s95 didn't snap photos as quickly as i want sometimes, and will end up blur images too (maybe my hand shakes). anyway will be good if my new camera can shoot faster and has longer zoom.

but prob is i want it to be compact enough to take out to travel, don't wan to have external flash etc, best if could don't have to buy many lens (save money). is there a len which can do all the jobs? like my s95??

if micro 4/3 without lens, could it work as good as my s95?

many thanks! rclxub.gif

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post Nov 7 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(creezalird @ Nov 6 2011, 10:37 PM)
first question, is ur s95 behaving like that indoor or outdoor? because if indoor, s95 actually one of the most reliable compact camera for indoor shooting, but if u feel the need for micro4/3, let me remind u, by using Auto mode or what so ever related, will never make u a better photographer. using micro4/3 or any advanced camera system, u need to learn almost all basic of photography such as aperture,ISO, shutter speed and DOF etc.

first u need to justify urself if u can live with prime lens aka no zoom lens. because micro4/3 is kind of new system and still dont have good fast zoom lens, but already have many good prime lens such as Panasonic 20mm 1.7, Leica 25mm 1.4 and Olympus 12mm 2.0 and Olympus 45mm 1.8

if u can live with prime lens, i can recommend u get the e-p3/e-pl3/e-pm1, all of them have, can say the fastest autofocus system.

why dont u find frens who are using this system too and try them out? if not, just go and buy one, try live with the kit lens first, if that wont satisfy u, get any of the prime lens mentioned above, cheapest one oly 45mm 1.8 but kind of a bit long for normal compact user, maybe get the Panasonic 20mm 1.7


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thanks creezalird!

i m talking abt outdoor actually, coz like to venture into street photography.
as a beginner, will like to play with auto first then only slowly venture into manual tongue.gif

went to google the price for panasonic 20mm 1.7, wow it's expensive at rm 1.4k.
let say if i buy e-pm 1, which len does it come with? understand it doesn't have built in flash, so meaning have to buy external one?

for micro 4/3, normally if u want to take eg: macro shot, u need other lens right?

thank you for your patience!
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post Nov 8 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(creezalird @ Nov 7 2011, 03:48 PM)
welcome spiderwick

all three third generation PEN series come with kit lens 14-42mm 3.5-5.6 which is actually kind of good already for outdoor street photography assuming u dont stalking people from far distance..lols

e-pm1 doesnt come with built in flash but come with external small flash connected to the hotshoe if i am not mistaken. secondly, u are shooting mostly outdoor,street..so why need flash..lmao...just get a good better lens like pana 20mm 1.7 or get any long telephoto lens (manual) if u prefer stalking people..hehe

of course for macro shoot normally u need dedicated lens for that, but u can just find old cheap manual lens for that especially macro shoot normally are taken without autofocus.

i think u should just go to any shop nearby, ask them to try any of the micro4/3 model, if u feel satisfy, buy away..


Added on November 7, 2011, 3:50 pm

jloi, i'm actually just got back from germany, so i am not very accustomed with buy and sell here in malaysia.

can u recommend any shop where i can get a close view of many manual lenses maybe around KL? thanks
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many thanks again creezalird, will walk to the shop nearby n try them out. at the meantime, try to figure whether i could commit so much money for the lens or not tongue.gif

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