I come from "old school" of thought where "equaliser" etc are waste of money. If the SQ is top grade, all u need is fader control for front/rear speakers. A clean amp should be able to provide SQ to feed all speakers.

If u look at those high-end home amps, all they have are 2 knobs: volume and L-R balance control.

In a way you contradict yourself. You already said that a sound stage is almost impossible to create inside a car cabin due to location of speakers at the front door (near the legs??) among other factors, so no amount of equalising or soundproofing will help. Meaning u can spend 10K for your equaliser and another 10K for your speakers but place them at your feet and you have lost the soundstaging. Remember that mids to highs are directional meaning they have to be placed equi-distance from your ears.

Hence the next best thing are 2 good rear speakers. That's why good speaker manufacturers like Dynaudio tend to keep things simple. All those equalisers etc are what I call "Christmas tree" effect, very Ah Beng-ish. If that's your preference, so be it.

And I won't even go into soundproofing. Has any one ever measured the decibel output before and after soundproofing? If you drive a Hilux pickup, why waste money soundproofing it? I think a lot of it is what some folks here call the "placebo" effect. If you're a true believer in soundproofing, you might want a Lexus to start with.

Hmm, I think if Proton is anywhere as responsible as Toyota etc, they should issue a recall of CVT and fix the problem before anyone gets into an accident. Imagine this happening on the highway at 110kmph?

All this talk about over- and under-steer.
Since when Saga become like Felali?

Remember 1st and foremost, Saga is a family car and meant to be driven like one. Drive safe, live long and prosper.

That's quite affordable but I noticed it is NOT a CD Player?


Ya, I was wondering where those figures come about? Agak-agak?


The LEDs look good.


Thanks, zeone. That's what I was hoping for before I make a visit to shorty's place.


BTW I read somewhere that blue LED lights are harmful. Google for more info.

Long story short, the new FLX is a gentleman's car and really comfortable for long distance drive as proven during my recent drive to Spore and back. Why? Because I don't feel the gear change at all + the suspension is firm.

However, in stop-start traffic, FLX is "jerky" and needs getting used to. For the driver who is used to "potong jalan" and need to cucuk here and there in a long queue, FLX is not easy to control initially.

Because I am a gentleman driver and don't usually cut queue, FLX is perfect for my style of driving.

The manual says 40L tank capacity. Which means you need to spend RM76 to fill up the tank @ 1.90/L.
At 20 sen/km, the total mileage on a full tank = 380km?


Thanks for clarifying. No CD player means the HU is useless as the better quality music comes from HQ CDs.

U make sound like there are 2 tanks.
The only way to test if the tank capacity is 40L is to drive until the car stops from zero fuel. Anyone wants to do that?

It's not normal. Go get it checked. My FLX dun behave like that.


What speakers u using? Anyway, let the shops do it. They fix speakers day in day out so they would know what's wrong.

Bringing my FLX to Mutiara for 1K servicing on Monday @ 11am. Anyone there at same time/date? Can yumcha since it will take 2-3 hrs I think.

Ya, called them. At first wanted 10am slot, gal said better not cos they go for tea break at 10.30am (then I rem'ber reading smthg abt it here...haha). So booked 11am slot.


Congrats. U wun regret... unless u one of the unlucky ones.

Oh too bad. I am actually looking for 175/70/R13 tyres for my mum's old Iswara. Anyone has? Doesn't matter 2nd hand or what, just as long as not botak.

Ya later I will also drive all the way home using R mode on the CACAT highway.

Wah, I scared to go to your shop liao. Means have to spend more $$$.
Maybe can offer a 2-for-1 package?
ABL + Auto Power Window = RM150 for FLX owners?

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Added on September 30, 2011, 5:08 pmReminds me of the
E = Enough
F = Finish
fuel tank joke.


This post has been edited by lowyatsuperman: Sep 30 2011, 05:08 PM

3 yrs later maybe cars can fly. Dun think too much. Just enjoy yr car now.

Yes, that's true. In general, best SQ is still from good CDs. MP3 is for easy listening. Radio is worst quality. I'm saving now to upgrade the speakers, tambah amp etc.

See my comments below.


Here's my personal opinion:
White = Young ppl like. Esp white with a black bonnet (to me super ugly). But white deflects heat so that's good. It is very common, though.
Black = If u like to drive around an "oven". Black absorbs heat and not practical for our weather.
Silver = Super common. But can look good if u maintain the shine.
Blue rock = To me, it looks rather unattractive.
Elegant Brown = This is a new colour so u won't see many other models with same colour. I had doubts at first. But after selecting this, the colour tends to grow on u and I am beginning to like it. The name "elegant" is very appropriate as it resembles gold colour. I think older folks will like this. After getting this, I have managed to get matching brown umbrella, even tissue box that complements the colour.

At the end of the day, diff ppl will have diff preference lah.

Ya, but other than FLX no other makes/models have this colour. That's what I mean. White/silver every make/models also have.


Me, too. I am 70+ liao.

BMW 5-series at 220kmph feels like 110. Try n beat that.

Thanks for the poison. I wld like to see how it looks when mounted. And how muchie?

It's just a branded spark plugs.

U mean they can last 20+ years?