US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter
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 Sep 14 2012, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 14 2012, 12:58 AM) Finally, all QEs (china, euro, korea, US....). That's it. I'm out of LVS (above $45) for now. Too dangerous to play against them. They manipulated this market. How strong can this long goes? Only time will tell.    If that's what the Fed wants, that what the Fed will get. Just keep on the long side until they fall off the cliff.  |
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Sep 14 2012, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 14 2012, 04:16 AM) Hope you are doing ok with the shorts if there is any. I'm not exactly short.. just trying to put a cage around LVS range (40-44) but since Now everyone plays the bubble game. Later US also join in Euro for the crisis. it has moved of range due to stupid Fed pumping, I've to bail out otherwise there will be severe price to pay if I let it expire by Sept. I'm staying long GLD and SLV since Uncle Ben wants to continue to pump this market up.  |
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Sep 15 2012, 10:05 PM
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With the US market at 4 years high.. all my long positions (net positive) have been trimmed to 40% and holding 60% cash at the moment.
No options play at the moment. Not ready to jump into shorts yet.. but got to wait and see. This market wants to go higher because of stupid Fed action. |
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Sep 17 2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Sep 17 2012, 09:13 PM) Apple sold 2 Million Iphone 5 in an hour pre order. Put it into perspective, Nokia sold 4 million Lumia in the last quarter. And the share price is trading at ATH currently. The numbers show everything. If you still think that Apple is not going to increase earnings in the next quarter you are just selectively blind to this info. 2013 Q1 will be huge. Apple will have a record earnings due to the iphone 5 sales. Not to mention china mobile. that would be a huge catalyst to push the stock higher. Slow down, don't click your remote yet to fast forward.If you want to speak numbers to me, i can more than justify it. But please do your homework before that. iPhone5 numbers won't be in 2012 Q4 yet. I think it will be another disappointment because everyone was holding off buying iPhones. Definitely will be using the dips to trade AAPL here. Come back down to the 630'-650'.. for another ride. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 17 2012, 09:54 PM |
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Sep 19 2012, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Sep 19 2012, 02:15 PM) If you want bullish opinion on AAPL The AAPL bulls will continue to pile and stack on top of each other (crowd effect) when they see AAPL price continues to move up..and the stacking won't stop until it become too heavy, then only we see prices crumbling down. What one want be careful here is not to be the last bull on top of the pyramid here. So, be nimble and careful when you play AAPL especially playing the time decaying options. You can just ask the person on top of you He/She VERY bullish on AAPL  Now, with Uncle Ben's virtually unlimited PUTs on the market.. perhaps it is time to take a seconds look at the banks and the REITs again. I think they're much better play now. For eg. BAC - this piece of garbage it slowly turning itself into a little nugget. For REITs, I'm eyeing commercial ones like PLD. IMO, the pull backs are to be bought. |
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Sep 19 2012, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Sep 19 2012, 09:38 PM) I'm looking at wfc, Seems it broke a 3 year trend Good spotting with WFC. That's Uncle Buffet's bank as well.Looks like no resistance here..pays good dividends too. |
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Sep 20 2012, 08:31 PM
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kimyee is correct. Newbie must first try to educate themselves first and perhaps try to papertrade BEFORE using your real money. Don't get suck in on what other people say or you hear it is easy to make money. Always do your own due diligence and know your risk. It is tough to navigate this market even for old timers like some of us. The market can turn around easily and teach one a very hard lesson that you'll never forget.
Right now, I think market is looking for an excuse to go back down.. watch out if you buying at the top here. Get those stops ready.  |
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Sep 21 2012, 09:08 PM
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Wow! Look at the madness of the long lines of AAPL fans.. around the globe. Even crazy Wozniak lined up in Australia to get the the phone 17 hours ahead of US. I'm not sure what so great about iPhone 5 since it is playing catch up anyway, and disappointing. But, one must acknowledge AAPL price is a monster now.
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Sep 25 2012, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(halofujima @ Sep 24 2012, 08:56 PM) AAPL shares going down today. News on its supplier factory got temporarily close down due to 40 workers injury, Yes, it was actually the iPad (not iPhone) that the kid wanted to so bad that he sold his kidney for it. Absolutely stupid. Already looking @ 2% drop from pre-market quotes. Looking to get in @ abt 679.00 COH went up to 62 , now down to 56 made good money from trending changes. Added on September 24, 2012, 9:01 pm Oh well, have u heard of a teen in China who would go all the way to SELL HIS KIDNEYS to get an Iphone? I doubt its about how good the phone is anymore, its the Brand. Moreover, from a marketing point of view, the best marketing strategy is people talking, I myself wouldnt go to an extend in comparing inches of detail from different phones, but oh well, why go against the trend when you can make money out of it? c: Added on September 24, 2012, 9:47 pmA turnover for AAPL when it announce that iPhone 5 breaks sales record of 4s. Nowonder Tim increases it's target higher . Looking at a bullish trend after the drop till Earnings report. Now that the iPhone5 is out, I won't be surprised some people will do something stupid to get it despite it is just another high tech fad that will fad away is about 1 year. Anyway, over the weekend, the AAPL bulls were expecting 8m in sales during the launch but it only managed to grab 5m units (3m short of expecation but slightly more than iPhone4S - around 4m during launch). AAPL bulls now having second thoughts, so, the stock is being punished now. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 25 2012, 02:10 AM |
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Sep 26 2012, 05:24 AM
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Looks like the sell signal finally came tonight.. CBOE Volatility spiked up 9%, industrial, commodities, etc.. all retreating.
Time to short this market..  |
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Sep 26 2012, 10:03 PM
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I already pressed SELL SELL SELL.. so, I'm ripping some profits as we go down.
AAPL touched that evil 666 number again. Time to add some here for quick scalp. Let see how it goes. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 26 2012, 10:04 PM |
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Sep 27 2012, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(bbstocking @ Sep 27 2012, 09:00 PM) Yesterday finished off red. Europle doesn't look any better today. It looks like the DOW is going to give us that long overtdue correction we've been waiting for. I've covered a bit yesterday and added a little long yesterday during $SPX = 1430.TZA anyone? Now, selling into the China support rumor to take money off the table again. Got to watch 1440-1445 area. If this breaks back up, I'll wait till it goes back to 1460 area before shorting again otherwise grabbing a few TZA here should be ok. Be sure to set the your stops (perhaps around low $14). Good luck! |
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Sep 28 2012, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(halofujima @ Sep 27 2012, 10:27 PM) I manage to Long @ 1431, bulls away! AAPL now printing me money!! $12 move... Collecting profit @ 1450, invest 14.31, gain 20 dollars. over 100% return! *fingers crossed* AAPL shoots up to 667.. from 660 .. Didnt manage to enter!! ARGH!! |
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Sep 28 2012, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Sep 28 2012, 05:57 AM) gee, a few days ago, tis thread is all about shorting due to correction in the market cuming soon via new home sales bad and sell signal finally came tonight.. CBOE Volatility spiked up 9%, industrial, commodities, etc.. all retreating I understand what you mean.. the market sentiments change very quickly. For trading, I'm only short term here. I won't hold long for swing position and always have my stops. There's a lot of liquidity in the market. Even bears are also very afraid. Tonight, the bears lost the mark at 1445. It seems that we're bullish again after tonight close.  u guys r in here for the long haul or the day haul anyway, earning seasons is here soon and then it will be the usa elections, outlook will be much clearer after that. considering the fact, dow jones is nearer to new high rather than new low, means the momos have more faith in the future of the usa economy. does it mean those co will finally unleash their trillion dollar cash reserve? imagine the money multiplier effect of it and the increase of int rate in the cuming years Look at RIMM... even losing less also can spiked up.. 18% this is nuts. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 28 2012, 06:15 AM |
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Sep 28 2012, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(halofujima @ Sep 28 2012, 09:30 PM)  It went up so quickly, I didn't manage to enter. Came home saw S&P @ 1444.42 .  Added on September 28, 2012, 10:02 pm DROP AGAIN !! OMG !! $ $ $ $ $ Triggered my stop loss. time to buy again.  $SPX holding steady and above 1425.. so BUY this fear dip and go long for now. Then, rip again if we go higher... This post has been edited by danmooncake: Sep 29 2012, 12:13 AM |
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Oct 1 2012, 10:04 PM
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$SPX going higher... watch for ripping opportunity at around 1463-1465 area.
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Oct 1 2012, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(halofujima @ Oct 1 2012, 10:11 PM) Too bad I sold everything @ 1450.. Argh.. Dunno should be happy or sad. Aiyoh.. Should be happy..because there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with taking profits... no matter how little. This market can give it you.. and can take it away anytime and can hurt you big time. The point of this game is to take it anyway you can. |
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Oct 1 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Oct 1 2012, 10:45 PM) Precious metal big swing. Broke year high it seems Which one you're looking at... Gold, Silver or Platinum? |
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Oct 3 2012, 08:45 PM
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Obama has a lower standard definition of middle class.. Romney said middle class is someone who earns around US$250K/year. That's actually 5 times the higher than the average.
 IMO, either candidate wins, money printing will continues for a while as long as Uncle Ben got his finger on the machine.  Anyway, for tonight play, I'm going to take some profits in AAPL and sell some into the rally after yesterday the buy at 650'ish (exactly at the 50ma support mark). This post has been edited by danmooncake: Oct 3 2012, 09:20 PM |
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Oct 3 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Oct 3 2012, 09:30 PM) Good catch on aapl. Reporting in 2 weeks time too. I will continue to sell AAPL into the earnings... I expect the 3rd Q result will be a disappointment. The iPhone5 sales  was less than stellar. |
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