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 I am preparing for Global Recession, Be cash rich

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vng69
post Sep 26 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 26 2011, 04:46 PM)
Recession no need lar.....i am already eating this stuff....

But if Depression you may need to eat grass cooked with grass  brows.gif
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hahaha..i dun believe u. recession also health also still important so eating is always a priority.
so recession or not, i still eat food. juz proper food. smile.gif
nevertheless, if depression like u said, yeah "grass" is always good. if u now what i mean whistling.gif

anyway, everything is dropping now. time to take control.!!
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post Sep 26 2011, 05:02 PM

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question now is how low will it go?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 10:48 AM)
Thats what happened to U.S............highly geared DEBT...... methinks our paternalistic
attitude of our politics has made it too late to turn around. Just look at the population of
civil servants.........last estimate at 1.6mil.
Our pop is only around 27mil....do you need 1 civil servant to serve 17 people?

next, if our attitude of deficit spending is not reeled in, EPF will be kaput...............

see the thread in real world section
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while we (ordinary m'sian) can plan, prepare, maybe kedukut on ourselves when needed...my worst fear is our EPF went kaput, continue to bail-out (the rich to get richer)..
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post Sep 26 2011, 05:35 PM

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the rich will always get richer no matter how u look at it. unless their biz had a downfall or sumtg bad happens la. but thats likely 1% to happen. as for the middle class, slowly and slowly will be downgraded to the bottom class n thus joining the poor ppl. agree on what u say bout the EPF thingy..we wouldnt even know by the time we reach 55, is the gov able to return our EPF as they suppose to? this issue has been discuss recently.

try to think. last time(5-10yrs ago) those fresh grad earn at least a minimum of rm2k-rm3k (depending on the field). But why now fresh grad also still earn the same..even lower.?! starting from rm1.6k!! when things are increasing in prices and we still get paid like last time fresh grad?
besides that, i wanna share sumtg. my colleague is getting RM1.6k when he 1st join.he got a degree in Marketing and afta 3 months he now earns rm1.8k. im holding a diploma and earning more than him. its wierd dun u think.
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QUOTE(vng69 @ Sep 26 2011, 05:35 PM)

besides that, i wanna share sumtg. my colleague is getting RM1.6k when he 1st join.he got a degree in Marketing and afta 3 months he now earns rm1.8k. im holding a diploma and earning more than him. its wierd dun u think.
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Its weird. Its weird that he should still be staying with yer company@!

He should be joining the gov sector soon..........the gov is paying pretty well
and you can moonlight as weell!
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 18 2011, 09:09 AM)

What makes you THINK that Malaysia is not on the threshold of collapse??

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I agree with Dreamer, even tho Malaysia is not on threshold of collapse, it will not advance any further, this administration has been leaping backwards since yr 2000;
UNLESS it is willing to administer "ON MERIT BASIS", OMIT all so called QUOTAS; else even the rest of the world's econ is in the BLUE, here Malaysia is still in BLUE-BLACK;
Malaysia is in the making ..where u see the super-rich and the super slump poor.
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:45 AM

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Folks,

Remember what I told you before....

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...21&sec=business

<< Presently, a technical committee is fine-tuning a draft of the Private Sector Retirement Age Bill to be tabled to Parliament, with the aim to increase the retirement age to 60, with an option of a four-year extension, from the current 55.>>

Dreamer
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post Sep 28 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:45 AM)
Folks,

Remember what I told you before....

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...21&sec=business

<< Presently, a technical committee is fine-tuning a draft of the Private Sector Retirement Age Bill to be tabled to Parliament, with the aim to increase the retirement age to 60, with an option of a four-year extension, from the current 55.>>

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Well, we will be in war at near distance future.

Enjoy while you still can enjoy.

This post has been edited by iamdrake: Sep 28 2011, 12:04 PM
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post Sep 28 2011, 11:04 PM

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Doing business in Malaysia is still the best way to make a living, we have control over many things -> our taxation, our retirement age, it's endless, since the regulators are not so 'on the ball' in many areas.
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QUOTE(vincentwmh @ Sep 26 2011, 05:08 PM)
while we (ordinary m'sian) can plan, prepare, maybe kedukut on ourselves when needed...my worst fear is our EPF went kaput, continue to bail-out (the rich to get richer)..
They are always doing it in share market
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 28 2011, 11:04 PM)
Doing business in Malaysia is still the best way to make a living, we have control over many things -> our taxation, our retirement age, it's endless, since the regulators are not so 'on the ball' in many areas.
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Yup yup - i agree. My buddies migrated to AU, NZ and Canada - like 8 out of 10 came back to do biz heheh.
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post Sep 29 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 29 2011, 08:27 AM)
Yup yup - i agree. My buddies migrated to AU, NZ and Canada - like 8 out of 10 came back to do biz heheh.
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My buds migrated their families overseas but do biz in Msia.................. biggrin.gif


Added on September 29, 2011, 8:37 amThe funs just beginning- Euro calls USA stoopid!

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Germany slams 'stupid' US plans to boost EU rescue fund
Germany and America were on a collision course on Tuesday night over the handling of Europe's debt crisis after Berlin savaged plans to boost the EU rescue fund as a "stupid idea" and told the White House to sort out its own mess before giving gratuitous advice to others.

German finance minister Wolfgang Schauble said it would be a folly to boost the EU's bail-out machinery (EFSF) beyond its €440bn lending limit by deploying leverage to up to €2 trillion, perhaps by raising funds from the European Central Bank.

"I don't understand how anyone in the European Commission can have such a stupid idea. The result would be to endanger the AAA sovereign debt ratings of other member states. It makes no sense," he said.

Mr Schauble told Washington to mind its own businesss after President Barack Obama rebuked EU leaders for failing to recapitalise banks and allowing the debt crisis to escalate to the point where it is "scaring the world".

"It's always much easier to give advice to others than to decide for yourself. I am well prepared to give advice to the US government," he said.

The comments risk irritating the White House. US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has been a key driver of plans to give the EFSF enough firepower to shore up Italy and Spain, fearing a drift into "cascading default, bank runs and catastrophic risk" without dramatic action.

The danger for Germany is that America will lose patience, with unpredictable consequences. The US Federal Reserve is currently propping up the European banking system in a variety of ways, including dollar swaps.

Markets across the world ignored the mixed signals about the true scope of EU rescue measures, convinced that EU leaders have a "grand plan" up their sleeves and will unveil the details after the Bundestag has voted on Thursday on the earlier July deal to revamp the fund.

France's CAC-40 surged by 5.7pc, led by a 17pc rise for Societe Generale. Germany's Dax was up 5.3pc. The FTSE 100 jumped 4pc in London, the biggest one-day rise this year. Oil jumped almost $4 in New York to $88 a barrel.

In Berlin, Chancellor Angela Merkel was fighting for her political life as the rump of lawmakers from her coalition vowed to reject the EFSF package, though the latest tally suggests she may squeeze by with her own majority. Angry dissidents suspect that secret plans are being withheld until after the vote.

Greek premier George Papandreou told German business leaders that his country would honour its austerity pledges, but also issued a veiled warning. "The persistent criticisms levelled against Greece are deeply frustrating, not only at the political level, where a superhuman effort is being made to meet stringent targets in a deepening recession, but frustrating also for the Greeks, who are making these painful sacrifices."

"Drastic measures have had a dramatic impact on the living standards of our citizens. Many Greeks feel they have little left to give. If people feel only punishment and scorn, this crisis will become a lost cause," he said.

Mr Papandreou's Pasok party passed a crucial vote on Tuesday to raise property taxes, but at a high political price. The party's approval rating has fallen to 15pc in the latest Mega poll.

However, Greece was confronted with a new threat as it emerged that several eurozone members are demanding the private sector absorb bigger losses than originally agreed as part of a second bail-out.

A deal struck in July would see creditors taking 21pc losses on their Greek debt holdings, adding around €45bn to the €109bn proposed second rescue. However, more than a third of the 17-member single currency bloc are now said to be demanding bigger haircuts for the private sector. Talk of revisions to the second bail-out may renew default fears as the IMF has yet to re-engage with Greece over the latest €8bn tranche of its initial €110bn rescue. Greece is at risk of running out of money by October 8, though analysts say the payment is almost certain to be made whether or not Greece has complied fully with the terms.

Greece has a trump card in rescue talks with the IMF-EU "Troika". If it opts for a "hard default", it could set off a chain reaction. Lorenzo Bini-Smaghi, an ECB board member, said those arguing that Europe's banks could withstand a Greek default are misguided. "Similar views were held before Lehman. Those who say this have no idea how contagion works," he said.

Analysts say the Troika will have to approve the next €8bn tranche of aid for Athens in October whether or not Greece has complied fully with the terms. It cannot risk a showdown before Europe's banks have beefed up their capital base, or before the EFSF is fully equipped to defend the rest of the system.

Like a forced marriage, Europe and Greece must kiss and pretend.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financi...escue-fund.html

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— Malaysia’s largest lender urged authorities today to step up monitoring of personal loans, saying that it was becoming a cause for concern.

This comes as the nation’s household debt increased from 66.7 per cent in 2004 to 76 per cent in 2009, which is uncomfortably close to US levels prior to the 2008 financial crisis.

Malaysians are facing increasing financial pressures as salaries have not kept up with inflation and many turn to personal loans and credit cards to help fund living expenses.

The size of the money lending industry is reflected by the extent of advertising of personal loans, many with the interest rate of one per cent a month.

Some vernacular newspapers carry two to three full pages of advertisements for personal loans and stickers promoting money lending vendors also appear frequently pasted on lamp posts, vacant shoplots and the boots of taxi cabs.

Figures provided by Bank Negara in March show that personal loans made up 15 per cent of the overall household debt composition.

“We need stronger enforcement on personal loans,” said Maybank CEO Datuk Seri Abdul Wahid Omar in a press conference following Maybank’s AGM here today.
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QUOTE(Fabio1 @ Sep 29 2011, 05:29 PM)
— Malaysia’s largest lender urged authorities today to step up monitoring of personal loans, saying that it was becoming a cause for concern.

This comes as the nation’s household debt increased from 66.7 per cent in 2004 to 76 per cent in 2009, which is uncomfortably close to US levels prior to the 2008 financial crisis.

Malaysians are facing increasing financial pressures as salaries have not kept up with inflation and many turn to personal loans and credit cards to help fund living expenses.

The size of the money lending industry is reflected by the extent of advertising of personal loans, many with the interest rate of one per cent a month.

Some vernacular newspapers carry two to three full pages of advertisements for personal loans and stickers promoting money lending vendors also appear frequently pasted on lamp posts, vacant shoplots and the boots of taxi cabs. 

Figures provided by Bank Negara in March show that personal loans made up 15 per cent of the overall household debt composition.

“We need stronger enforcement on personal loans,” said Maybank CEO Datuk Seri Abdul Wahid Omar in a press conference following Maybank’s AGM here today.
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f&%$ the banks. they are practically calling me everyday to offer new credit cards, loans, foreign currency savings etc. i think they are DESPERATE for business. this shows you how bad the situation is
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QUOTE(Fabio1 @ Sep 29 2011, 05:29 PM)
— Malaysia’s largest lender urged authorities today to step up monitoring of personal loans, saying that it was becoming a cause for concern.

This comes as the nation’s household debt increased from 66.7 per cent in 2004 to 76 per cent in 2009, which is uncomfortably close to US levels prior to the 2008 financial crisis.

Malaysians are facing increasing financial pressures as salaries have not kept up with inflation and many turn to personal loans and credit cards to help fund living expenses.

The size of the money lending industry is reflected by the extent of advertising of personal loans, many with the interest rate of one per cent a month.

Some vernacular newspapers carry two to three full pages of advertisements for personal loans and stickers promoting money lending vendors also appear frequently pasted on lamp posts, vacant shoplots and the boots of taxi cabs. 

Figures provided by Bank Negara in March show that personal loans made up 15 per cent of the overall household debt composition.

“We need stronger enforcement on personal loans,” said Maybank CEO Datuk Seri Abdul Wahid Omar in a press conference following Maybank’s AGM here today.
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Its a situation where do you die, dont you die.....inflation in a recessionary environment is tough
to manipulate as the yanks are found out and still.........

In Msia, inflation is high as in other countries,and yet the financiiers want low interest rates to keep the economy chuggin along as it is already tough.
However if inflation is not reined in, you have a new population of paupers and growing........
This is whats happening..everyday some % of the population falls into the pauper
sector with inflation.

One day this population will explode because they dont enough to go by..............
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post Oct 1 2011, 07:35 AM

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Do you belief in the Gov inflation statement , we are crazy to belief the Gov,
cash out guys ,dont burn your finger
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 28 2011, 11:04 PM)
Doing business in Malaysia is still the best way to make a living, we have control over many things -> our taxation, our retirement age, it's endless, since the regulators are not so 'on the ball' in many areas.
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post Oct 2 2011, 09:31 AM

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Thank you for all the supports.

I would also like to add that if and when we migrate, we should try our best to be fair to the destination country, by declaring and paying the taxes accordingly. Do not short-change the destination country, otherwise, why did we choose to migrate to that country ?

It is a choice that we have made, therefore, let us be fair and be right towards the new country.

Let us be aware that we cannot choose where we are born into, but we can choose where to go to. There is always a choice.

IN another context, one may or may not fight for a country that he is born into, but he is dutiful to do national service for a country that he chooses to go to.

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Guys if you are given a 1 Million dollar where and how do you will invest and why you will invest in that choice you make
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post Oct 15 2011, 10:17 AM

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Let's help before this thread is closed.

What are you good at in terms of investments ? Go into what you are good at. And always think diversification.

Before going into what you are good at, park your money in a few banks in Malaysia, each FD cert should be below RM 100K in value.

I would advise the above first.

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