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jimlim007	Sep 22 2011, 10:43 PM Return to original view \| Post #41
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 22 2011, 10:38 PM) wah! we would expect one our member getting the new A77 and HVL 43 very soon. deposit paid already. damage estimate less than RM4.5K 500 flash , so cheap
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jimlim007	Sep 23 2011, 10:29 PM Return to original view \| Post #42
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006
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jimlim007	Sep 24 2011, 08:51 AM Return to original view \| Post #43
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 24 2011, 08:24 AM) why ler talk about brand lately.. all bcos nikon annouced nikon1; fanboy laugh at nikon1. normal thing la, human nature -defensive/offensive
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jimlim007	Sep 24 2011, 10:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #44
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	sonnar vario T** kind like coating, then what is Distagon mean?
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jimlim007	Sep 24 2011, 11:40 PM Return to original view \| Post #45
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 24 2011, 11:29 PM) Distagon is the lens design.... what made it so special leh compare to normal ssm lens
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 12:16 AM Return to original view \| Post #46
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	both you failed kuiz kidding, get answer alr my self This high-performance wide-angle lens with its retrofocus design (Distagon type) provides outstanding performance even at full aperture despite its high speed. Its sharpness and contrast are exceptional across the entire image field of full frame 35 mm cameras. The integrated super-sonic-wave-motor (SSM) allows the Distagon to focus extremely fast and practically without any noise.(1) The wide rotation angle of the smooth-motion focus ring, which is free of play, also provides for precise manual focusing. Due to its very close minimum focusing distance of just 19 cm, this wide-angle lens opens up a world of creative opportunities in addition to usual application areas such as landscape photography and photography in small interiors. It’s possible to capture small-sized objects from a very close distance at almost full frame, while the wide angle of the lens reveals much of the surrounding foreground and background, which blend harmoniously out of focus when selecting a large aperture. Nine aperture blades form an almost circular iris, which allows for a beautiful bokeh especially in highlights in the blurred background and foreground. The sturdy metal lens barrel protects the interior for years of trouble-free use.
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 07:52 AM Return to original view \| Post #47
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 25 2011, 07:33 AM) instead of focusing design or autofocus system, i rather call them "motor design" which wouldnt mislead simple wording. (SAM, PZDm, SS, USM, HSM, SWM, USD etc) for the plannar. distagon... just a CODENAME for the designs. to put is simple Distagon are wide angles, Plannar for mid angle (50-90mm) sonnar for tele angle. vario-xxx is for zoom lens.... like how intel name their proccesor with mountain codename or android name their version with food names. haha codename, right too. But i think it more like marketing name. Wow, the red font awesome. i not even notice after read that in carl zeiss web just know it is relate to wide angle. But i also notice all CZ ZA lens having T* (anti reflective coating). its clear my doubt when 1st i think only vario sonnar have actually my question come from when someone shared new SSM 16-50 with CZ16-80 T, under the certain condition, the T really made it stand out to remove the flare. also someone suggest to put 2 filter to work like T, then i was thinking how much the 2 filters will costs (DT 16-50 f2 +2 filters) if matching to CZ 16-35 ZA (although there is ~3.6K price gap, FF, better build, better lens element) or CZ24F2ZA (although diff focal lens, FF, better build, better lens element) Added on September 25, 2011, 7:54 am QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 25 2011, 06:06 AM) So what have you made out of the article you found? Distagon, Biogon, Tessar, Sonnar, Planar etc are names for lens design by Carl Zeiss. As I like to call them, the photography Gods. SSM, USM, HSM, by now I hope you'd already know, are different names of the same type of focusing system by different manufacturers. Distagon, for example, refers to a lens design that is pretty much optimised by CZ for large aperture wide angle usage. What you have read in the article, you should already understand by now that the SSM motors are moving the lens elements FOR the Distagon design. So this makes what the others that have answered your 'kuiz' has given you a correct answer albeit a short one. Sekarang ada faham? This post has been edited by jimlim007*: Sep 25 2011, 08:05 AM
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 10:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #48
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	I don't know. just simply listen to other input and validate make sense or not So here we have Universal Class auto focus system <object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/e6jT82sCJuI&version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/e6jT82sCJuI&version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object> Added on September 25, 2011, 10:36 amW Kai on A77 <object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Al1BI82nV9A&version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Al1BI82nV9A&version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object> This post has been edited by jimlim007: Sep 25 2011, 10:36 AM
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 12:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #49
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	cannot lo, too far
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 03:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #50
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Sep 25 2011, 01:01 PM) where ur location? i am kedah cow
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 08:02 PM Return to original view \| Post #51
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 25 2011, 07:49 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « #1 #2 #3 #4 those motor much more expensive > my used car keat, so nice the motor
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 10:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #52
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 25 2011, 09:23 PM) No. Only covers where you bought the camera from. and unless upon your purchase, you have to go some where to register it and make it international warranty zstan, i am finish study already, in fact, did not go to convo just wish to save the expenses money to buy a77 wish you finish your soon This post has been edited by jimlim007: Sep 25 2011, 10:10 PM
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 11:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #53
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 25 2011, 10:32 PM) Nola..the warranty still remains local... Wah...convo more important than camera leh... hehe. i just wish once get new camera mount on tripod to shoot me with the paper although not look like convo pass by Dekan. bcos too far jor lo kedah --- skudai. I hate travel my fren spent >2k expenses. that would be the cost for 16-50 ssm about the international warranty, i just aware from other in other forum, i did not know actually eg: buy from HK and can register it in HK to make it having warranty in Msia (just not clear is Msia only or internationally). But its can be done good to know about this
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jimlim007	Sep 25 2011, 11:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #54
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	total a77 bug list: Many people from Taiwan and Hong Kong, has reported that the Firmware V1.02 contains lots of Bugs. Taiwan: http://translate.google.com/...opicdetail....2361119%26p%3D1 Hong Kong: http://translate.google.com/...hread.php%3...ra%3Dpage%253D1 Summary: 1, All the AF point disappear suddenly, and could not switch off the camera and could not change some of the setting within the menu. Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window 2,The camera hang suddenly and you have to remove battery and restart the camera. 3,A few people has put a Sigma lens on the camera and all the focus point loss forever. No more AF for any lens(include Sony's), and need to return to CS to fix it. 4,It needs more than 10sec to turn off the camera. Sometimes you turned off the camera, but it is still working, the battery drop from 9x% -> 9% after a few hours. 5, The orientation of the menu does not show correctly. http://translate.google.com/....php%3Ff%3D...last%3D30835154 Image control:Zoom outZoom 100%Zoom inExpand AllOpen in new window 6,The Aperture & Shutter setting malfunction suddenly, need to remove battery and restart the camera. 7,The position of the electronic level shift to the top part of the LCD. Need to restart the camera to back to normal position. 8,The camera hang during shooting in high speed mode . Added on September 25, 2011, 11:27 pmhmm... sony should not pratice tester with pre-production unit and firmware anymore. it show not thing better in this way... problem are still exist. extra hands extra chaos This post has been edited by jimlim007: Sep 25 2011, 11:27 PM
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jimlim007	Sep 26 2011, 08:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #55
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 26 2011, 07:50 PM) epo: no need so technical talk, wait edpaul go KL help u check. or someone organise a TT with him to check for him 67zai: could be your lcd. default rich color of raw, if process with NON SONY software, it will become dull (neutral color profile), where sony 'standard color' profile is being use by sony IDC wa so good, if i got problem, TT come kulim. i belanja teh tarik
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jimlim007	Sep 27 2011, 07:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #56
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 27 2011, 07:28 PM) Sony's A77 Is The New King of APS-C DSLRs King of Bugs King of Sleep how could those problem could not reveal by beta tester - dreaming testers
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jimlim007	Sep 27 2011, 09:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #57
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 27 2011, 08:38 PM) Ok, now that we have a77, where is 24-70 Added on September 27, 2011, 8:54 pm Well, there is a580, birght OVF, got video, AF is as accurate as a77 can be, high ISO better than a77, and the price is alot cheaper too i watch albnok video, a580 both af cant focus in video
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jimlim007	Sep 27 2011, 11:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #58
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 27 2011, 10:19 PM) Well I prefer to be able to autofocus in video and manual focus in video. Autofocus for above-the-head or frogs-eye-view candid videos (as well as when you need to pass your camera to someone), and manual focus for planned videos. Better than having only manual focus lah. +1. and If no need that fast and reliable AF tracking. plenty of choice even with good iso.
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jimlim007	Sep 28 2011, 01:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #59
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(Gouki @ Sep 28 2011, 02:24 AM) i have been noticing u trolling around here since weeks ago. if u got so much doubts and bashes on the new a77, by all means go back to whatever major brands of dslr u like or fancy. just leave this harmonious topic to us, if u have nothing to contribute here. like the old saying goes, u can just leave if u dun like it. no one will stop u. by all means, with all respect. here started with criticism on the beta testers not revealed the current a77 issues. cannot understand the question can lead to here. even i critic on the weakness of a77 does not mean i dont like it. at least i am not blind myself. harmonious topic ....contribute here.... you are right, you get the points; i forgot to join this team to 'laugh' at new 'nikon 1' when its launched. my bad with all respect *cough...cough... is up to u what u want to call it.
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jimlim007	Sep 28 2011, 09:05 PM Return to original view \| Post #60
Enoch Senior Member 4,073 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 28 2011, 05:46 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « oi guys! nikon1 has nothing to do with A77. stop it. its not fun to make fun of people, u dont like ppl laughing at ur A55/A300 too rite? jimlim: we do our best to provide the information you (although there are some people doesnt know anything just blah out what they dont know misleading you)... roy,william know who i talking about. sometimes, there are sifu like albnok, william, mana achew? (edit: left out Sifu Sham) and some others are giving chance to new comers to lead...(if mislead sure kena from them, that why u see william like marah ppl mislead) and guys, all gouki said was jimlim being 'trolling'... trolling means, putting note that annoys people, the note can be factual, or non factual, or just plain annoying. anyway, trolling is not "wrong". is just annoys people. and seriously jim, do u know how u annoyed people? that part u have to know urself. and for the record, jimlim DO likes A77, its just normal for people to try find flaw in something you like before u buys it, worry the money invested worth it or not. typical gearhead. nothing wrong being a gearhead (although most ppl here wont welcome these type)... Jimlim, its up to you to like EVF or not, no point to convince u otherwise, also, its also depend on you how much you "trust" sony will fix the problem. to me, the firmware for A700 all came out on time... sadly nothing much to gain from A900 sensor(firmwareupdate), they fix A230 AEL issue real quick. but lately A55 issue is still unheard. but do know, A7,8,9 series are Pro series, and previous update are release for them on-time...i hope they will really fixes them before putting the whole team into A99 development. and DONT make fun of nikon1, actually the introduction of Nikon1 struck the deepest fear in me! (some people dont see that far, i do).... when i see nikon1, i see the expeed3, not the CXmount/sensor. the expeed3 will bring D400 to places exceed A77 and maybe 1D series.... think how scary is that. i can imagine D400 with electronic shutter giving 12mp 30fps! from sony 24mp sensor. can u? making me feel sony better find way to win back hearts of A77 before it falls at D400 announcement. Added on September 28, 2011, 5:48 pmAnd jimlim, if you want BETTER feedback regrading A77 issue, you can try www.alphanatics.com or www.dyxum.com hope u can survive there haha, i know those ppl u mentioned. i not care them at all. is their freedom. But one thing very true, i am annoy ppl, not every other replied i see wrongly perceive i go to explain. i just keep quiet and sometime purposely throw some staement -king of bug and i know what thing will happen la boring waiting camera, find something do, feel good to be brandless user -which one good then pick it love it and critic it weakpoint upside down sure new fw will fix, matter of time, someone guess upon japan release a77. once upon i made few slomo clip with ex-600D, that nikon1 slomo is extremely poison, just the resolution little small; hopefully could see new dslr from expeed3 on oct could compete with a77 and hope for a price war . Added on September 28, 2011, 9:16 pmhot new update: RC found - fix coming soon An anonymous source just sent me this: “I have learned that the production Alpha a77 has a revised set of new Bionz processors but the Firmware updates were for the older processors. Someone messed up and may have forgotten to have the firmware people test with the new processor. There will be a major update to the firmware as soon as full testing is completed. This is going to delay US and Canada Distribution. The current Firmware was never test on the newer processors that is in the production cameras. So there will be major corrections are needed in the firmware before its released again.” If the “rumor” is correct than this is an embarassing news for Sony but also good news for us because it means that the firmware updgrade will hopefully fix all current issues. Reminder: The rumor hasn’t been confirmed by official sources so as usual take it with a grain of salt! Added on September 28, 2011, 9:18 pm(SR2) Surprise! Will there be a Sony A75 soon??? leak from Sony web This post has been edited by jimlim007*: Sep 28 2011, 09:18 PM
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