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post Sep 10 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 10 2011, 07:57 PM)
sigh. am i the only guy who spent rm900 to repair to sensor alignment stuff sad.gif
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is depend de la, about the current market value of your camera, typically is was warranty expire >1 year and probably there are new camera launched, it might not worth liao, but if a900 then is different story liao. very subjective.


Added on September 10, 2011, 8:05 pmtypically we use remote control to snap photo, but is there device to use remote control to start stop video recording?

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post Sep 11 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 11 2011, 01:37 AM)
jimlim007: That 8GB Memory Stick Pro-HG Duo HX has 200x or 30MB/s read, 100x or 15MB/s write card. Coincidentally, I just bought a 16GB Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC UHS-I rated at 300x 45MB/s read and write speeds for RM250 at Low Yat Plaza.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051303...tickhx30mbs.asp

Hmmm good question! What if the A77 was in Video mode and we pressed the remote shutter?

NutZ748: Nice #2 and #3!

Codyx: Could be better lit on the left.
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wow, memory card still very high price, and SD speed at 45mb/s seem not enough brows.gif

you just have raise another question (its should be able to dostill when in video recording like 600D-i use before but the STILL image might not the Max MP size), my question is can we use remote control to start /stop video record hmm.gif
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post Sep 11 2011, 12:13 PM

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Is the video show that orange77, we can use display picture to define the pattern and do the next autofocus on the object that have same pattern? hmm.gif



new cross points, u like it?


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lousy lcd screen pawn by canikon, seriously, when rotated 180 on top follow the lens direction, it block by the hot shoe/internl flash


machine gun sound toy


f16 n a77


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post Sep 11 2011, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 11 2011, 12:42 PM)
jimlim, one thing i've learnt is that not to judge too early, or as in your case, unless you have a hands on on the actual thing, its best to just let your opinions be neutral. If you have actually tested and doesnt fit your taste, no one can fault u, but its quite clear that you've not, and using images as your assumptions. i'd  rather wait and see what suprises is in stored before saying anything. As the saying goes, its best to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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then continue kept urself silence; didnt know someone have tail... i just sharing some youtube video at here
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post Sep 11 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 11 2011, 01:07 PM)
you did not just share the videos...you shared your views on the camera as well... unless you copied paste it from somewhere...
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its a nice machine sound, is most quite so far in sony dslr. but in the closer the view for the lcd is true when after extended upper in 180degree facing to front, its expose a downpoint of the lcd, the only way to view from front will block by the pop up internal flash or the hot shoe accessory sad.gif weird sony did not incorporate their patent in camcorder into it. dont think there will be final changes on the lcd; look like i have hurt someone 'baby' reputation, my bad sad.gif have to shut my mouth then sweat.gif


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post Sep 11 2011, 05:41 PM

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so sad cannot aboard buy bulk ship, the shop is too far for me sweat.gif continue wait until nov sweat.gif


Added on September 11, 2011, 7:46 pmtonight will be good night shooting round and stunning moon look drool.gif too bad doesnt have a camera now sad.gif

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post Sep 11 2011, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 11 2011, 07:52 PM)
Agree with william.

Unlikely for me to turn the LCD facing me and use it to camwhore anyways XD

Unlikely question, beside the signal bar for Steadyshot, if there is an icon blinking, what does that supposed to mean? Getting really not used to OVF liao, bad sign for wallet.
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death 2nd time, killing spree sad.gif

ohh forgot that now its has the AF tracking to the object being shoot, in future to create lovely slomotion clip, should less to watch on the lcd screen already as to ensure the object in focus especially shoot in alone. AF shall work in this case , hopefully smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2011, 08:26 PM

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1+2 yrs ext warranty rm220 for 3k-6k
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post Sep 17 2011, 06:36 PM

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poison leak laugh.gif
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btw, dt made in china hmm.gif

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post Sep 17 2011, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Sep 17 2011, 09:29 PM)
Dweey!
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very cute laugh.gif like it. got so many color hor laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 12:20 AM

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my eyes has been statically looking at the 1st page on those lenses bodies prices for .5 hour hmm.gif initial plan was thinking to get a77 1650 which will be around 6k plus. as we know the stock wont available until oct/nov.

before comes to my option. i asked myself what i want for below rm6000 budget..

1. SSS
2. Acceptable ISO performance par with D7000/5n at least (i do not want get laugh *seriously)
3. Full manual FHD avch2.0
4. AF tracking in video
5. EVF
6. Alloy magnesium body
7. Weather seal *possible
8. other filters + panorama + hdr

Options (from my original plan getting shifted awayyyyy) :

A77+1650 f2.8 SSM ~Rm6k+
Pros: SSS in body, EVF,
Cons: pricy body 4.3k (old man said, invest good lens not body-i am for hobby; the price made me think many times-dilema in worthy)

Nex5n+24 f1.8 SSM ~Rm5k+
Pros: proven high ISO performance, full manual avch2.0; light;
Cons: No EVF, No PDAF, costs 1k+ for EA2 adapter if want 1650 SSM (walkable lens); my worry e-mau 24 f1.8ssm will no value if sony introduce nex FF next year as i compared to A-mau Distagon 24 f2 SSM ~3800 FF lens, not much different, 800 put for FF. in my mind i feel its sound really like other said buy good lens instead body.

so comes to 5n+24 f2 SSM (A-mau)+EA1 >6k sad.gif , then comes to usedA35 + 24 f2 SSM but lose all video features sad.gif finally i lose myself doh.gif


Added on September 18, 2011, 12:25 am
QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 17 2011, 11:50 PM)
Any problem the lens is made in china?
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china made BEST than thailand thumbup.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2011, 02:29 AM)
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jimlim007: You can laugh at how the D7000 focuses in Live View, but you can't laugh at the A77 in Live View.

Also I have the NEX-5, LA-EA1 and Zeiss 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA and I can tell you that it is imbalanced.

I have also tried the NEX-5N with the E-mount Zeiss 24mm F1.8 and it is a heck lighter and smaller.

chiahau: Nolah 24mm F2.0 SSM is RM3xxx. smile.gif
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Haha , i guess IER will also say the same as you. seriously, quick AF LV since introduced 1st gen of SLT/mirrorless, its has been basic expectation and we know it kicking other brands. exclude d7000, in fair and humble request a77 should par with 5n or -5% tolerance in final fw. will be marketing error if doesnt work so hmm.gif

wow, nice input. can we use left hand hold the lens right hand on body to balance it (duno how to ask, prettyy common handling) doh.gif what is the different of Ea1 vs Ea2? PDAF? another question, i read lot user feedback of wideopen pime lens 24mm, 28mm f2 or f2.8 which are suitable for major of the scenes such in close portrait with good background presence, wedding, even some landsacpe, will it true from what you been used? part of it was also the fast n quiet SSm. gives me poison tongue.gif

(my god, guess mod deleted my few replied or i accidentally editted; tired to put back again sweat.gif )

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post Sep 18 2011, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Sep 18 2011, 09:28 AM)
I also kena delete post before. I didnt know. No notice no nothing. Then I repost, kena ban 3 days. doh.gif
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just watch out of it. i tend to read many mods bias, emotional filed complaint by many users too. the set of protocol is not follow. unfortunately, we do not have any in orange legion.

recently see you actively in macro, you are direct invest sp90 or have do assessment which type/method macro u like to invest? (reverse ring w/adapter or filter lens aka raynox or extended macro tube or macro lens) hmm.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(yuhi @ Sep 18 2011, 12:40 PM)
Quick LV has been in dslr's earlier then SLT/mirrorless. Even my a350 has it. I think not even D7000 beats it as it only uses CDAF while QLV uses PDAF (the new Oly-EP3 beats it though).

Ea1 allows you to mount a-mounts and lets u use screw-driven lens in addition to SSM lenses. (focusing is not as fast as Ea2 as it uses CDAF + some other reason which I don't know lol...)
Ea2 has a Translucent mirror which reflects light onto a PD sensor which allows PDAF and a probably improved screw drive motor to allow faster focusing.

Wideopen primes lens are very versatile but its up to the photographer on how to utilize it. Wide angle = lots of DOF meaning you will get plenty of unwanted stuff into your shots. And most wide angles produces fair to ulgy bokeh + distortion. If you're looking for a lens that excels in the things you desire, a fast 35mm will probably suit your needs much more.
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thanks. every thing is $ limitation laugh.gif all because market strategy, e-mau a-mau ea1/2 thumbup.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 18 2011, 12:40 PM)
Errrr, Sony's LV has been fast since god knows when la dude. Even the old A550 and other models are having pretty decent LV focusing speed too dry.gif

Frankly, A77 should be/likely would be better than 5N is many factors than one. But some are not obvious and people tends to overlook it.

And most of the time I see Albert, he's using prime lens lol~" XD

24Z f2 around 3xxx? Decent pricing, decent pricing. Must not buy....
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for a77 price, of course it should performance better than it brother 5n, who want spend more to get worse, should no body smile.gif
24z e-mau vs 24 a-mau diff ~800 crop 1.6 vs FF lens shakehead.gif


Added on September 18, 2011, 3:28 pm
QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 18 2011, 12:33 AM)
1. Sony dint say anything about the e mount lens being FF lens or DT lens, so we dont know anything yet.
2. e mount 24 zeiss vs ZA 24 f2, is e mount 24 is much lighter and smaller than ZA 24 - alot.  So the ZA 24 is not really ideal to walkabout with nex 5n.
    And u can also go for other alternative lens such as 16 pancake or the 30mm macro. Even the 18-55 can be nice walkabout lens. smile.gif
So far most entry level camera and lens are made in thailand. Only those high end like full frame is made in Japan
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whole planet user kicking the sony marketing door daily, we want 'nex ff'; that is how the nex7 (compact high end aps-c) coming from sony how the user demand and influence sony. further, next yrs we have 3 FF from SAR. i wild guess that 2 for replace a900, a850 and 1 for nex ff. but looking the e-mau lineup is fall behind compare to rivals panasonic. what if like previously ppl suspect nex ff a-mau blink.gif will be nice own a ff lens now brows.gif


Added on September 18, 2011, 3:49 pmwhile everyone not here, put some poison carl-zeiss-distagon-t-24mm-f2-ssm ~3xxx brows.gif

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post Sep 19 2011, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2011, 09:49 PM)
jimlim007: Of course you can hold the lens with your left hand to balance it. However, because I have tried the NEX-5N with E-mount 24mm F1.8, I would prefer it!

Yup the LA-EA2 has a translucent mirror, at the expense of 1/3rd stop of light.

I like my 24mm F2.0 for close portraits - you get a sense of location.

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From the 24mm F2.0 on the A900.

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No problems with people walking in front of you, because you are in front of everybody!

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You'd know where I took this picture - at a fair.

yuhi: The LA-EA1 doesn't AF screw-driven lenses. The LA-EA2 does. The Zeiss 24mm F2.0 has very clean bokeh, much better than the Minolta/Sony 50mm F1.4.
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awesome yer cz 24 f2! pretty attracts me drool.gif duno what my next move, see what happen when reach oct hmm.gif


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jimlim007: hi, there is one little problem here... you are too technical. every little dot of pixel capture affect your head~ till today, i still love my A300, which is about 3 years old... it has QLV (that when 450D and D90 introduce their native LV too) i shot a lot of photo with it, over 70k shutter count, it restrain me a lot, limiting me, but i pushes it more then anyone here able to. i shoot iso1600 with it, and i find it, well,"terrible" in technical terms, but my client doesnt mind and loves it, because the photo brings laughters, memory, and blessing. noone dares to compare sharpness of my A300 with any of their camera... those camera owners calibrated by me, they know. william wan cucuk me everytime i show him picture....LCH too...

what is the purpose do you even buy a DSLR? if its for "KICK" because you own a hell good of gadget, please try leica, or hasselbald. if its for laughters, memory, and blessing, seriously, ANY CAMERA WILL DO... i bet my A300 can do better then you with A77 tongue.gif its always been about the user... if u need some "relief" from gearhead syndrome, go to FlickR, flick for older camera model "400D, A200, D40x" and feel how those "great" photographer captured those marvelous photo.

coming back down to earth. please buy something within your budget, also restrain your "spree of buying". A77 is indeed the lastest and perhaps the best interchangable phase detect camera today, but, by tomorrow, nikon or canon, or pentax, or olympus, and who knows, samsung might come out with something crazier?

A77 will be consist of 2 type of buyer... the one who NEED it... and the one who GREED you. which are you?

as for the LENS, i advise grab a zoom, for flexibility, i dont know your background, but lets assume this, you may not be "familiar" with a prime, and definately will come back another day asking bout another diff reach lens... eg tele?
get a zoom for the basic cover,  later on when u felt like going serious or really NEED a crazy expensive lens, and has extra coins left over in the bank, yes, why not, lets help the economy tongue.gif
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agreed, old camera powerful, once upon in dinner function, my fren 40D 50mm pawn my a300 KM50 in low ISO laugh.gif since that, i learn how important a body that can work in extreme low light condition smile.gif

ya lor, never use any of those wide prime, olny read user comment and see those sample picture -feel nice nice. also worry if later found not suitable blink.gif That is why i asked albnok for the most real sharing cz24 f2.

arg, i hating buying electronic gadzet. always dilema. believe when the 1st full review hit www for a77, a65, or nex7, then everything will be clear for the 'next move'. I pray no more stunami please! oct/nov long to go

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post Sep 20 2011, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 20 2011, 06:32 PM)
Lol, I scared I go inside, I'll be in debt with Bank till I die doh.gif
Studio Zaloon, Creative and few more does carry A55. Try finding em or better, search the garage sales and do a price check 1st b4 buying. I was offered 23xx for the kit, last time XP
But he always belanja me teh tarik when i go, so the service justified the price? XD

Regardless, I go there 2 scout for products only biggrin.gif
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i got 6 digit loan with bank, 1st digit start with 2 sad.gif somemore so tempting new camera + lens sweat.gif


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QUOTE(Zicron @ Sep 19 2011, 09:32 PM)
jimlim007: Seriouly, what is your main concern about the camera?
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i also duno, i lost blink.gif

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post Sep 20 2011, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM)
Perfect camera? Don't exist. But you can buy every camera in the market with your 6 digit loan so you will not miss out on all the features. tongue.gif
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the 6 digit loan is hutang lo sweat.gif i know la perfect camera never exist. i says mature camera only tongue.gif see how lo the 1st full review hit WWW thumbup.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 09:41 PM

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Please discuss nikon stuff in Nikon thread. here is for Sony.
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post Sep 22 2011, 10:17 PM

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lol, observed all sony thread having serious teasing on new nikon camera. good job guys! soon we will see nikon thread tease back on nex7 n a77 iso lol....

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