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 [WTS] Watt Meter with TNB Bill Calculator, Find out why your TNB bill is so high...

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post Nov 18 2011, 08:58 PM

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post Nov 25 2011, 07:16 PM

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Can I ask the experts here.

I measured my Wall Power output is around 247W. Most of appliances like Computer PSU is only rated for around 230V usage if I am not mistaken. Is the Wall output almost 250V too high. Will it shorten the lifespan or cause damage to equipment?


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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 25 2011, 07:16 PM)
Can I ask the experts here.

I measured my Wall Power output is around 247W. Most of appliances like Computer PSU is only rated for around 230V usage if I am not mistaken. Is the Wall output almost 250V too high. Will it shorten the lifespan or cause damage to equipment?
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Are all the wall sockets in your house measured at around 247v constantly? If yes, my guess is your house probably situated near a TNB substation. Although 247v is on the high side, there's no need to be alarmed as all you might experience are fans runs slightly faster, water heater runs slightly hotter etc. What you really need to take notice is if the measurement at the wall power outlets are on the low side (below 220v). Below are examples that causes low supplied voltage :

1. Wiring too old & degraded.
2. Termination or point of contacts oxidation.
3. Using power extension with low quality copper wiring or steel wiring (rare but exist)
4. Sharing the same power outlet with a high power appliance.

Constant low supplied voltage causes electrical appliances to fail prematurely due to overworked & overheated, wiring to catches fire etc.

Any corrections or additional info from experts are welcome. smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2011, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Nov 25 2011, 09:04 PM)
Are all the wall sockets in your house measured at around 247v constantly? If yes, my guess is your house probably situated near a TNB substation. Although 247v is on the high side, there's no need to be alarmed as all you might experience are fans runs slightly faster, water heater runs slightly hotter etc. What you really need to take notice is if the measurement at the wall power outlets are on the low side (below 220v). Below are examples that causes low supplied voltage :

1. Wiring too old & degraded.
2. Termination or point of contacts oxidation.
3. Using power extension with low quality copper wiring or steel wiring (rare but exist)
4. Sharing the same power outlet with a high power appliance.

Constant low supplied voltage causes electrical appliances to fail prematurely due to overworked & overheated, wiring to catches fire etc.

Any corrections or additional info from experts are welcome. smile.gif
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First of all sorry for the typo , it's 247V (as you already know). On another outlet it's about 245V.

For the 247V outlet, it will fluctuate slightly +/- some decimals. Sometimes it may go to 246V briefly , sometimes 248V briefly.

Since it's borderline high, I am afraid it may go above 250V sometime when not observing. I have experienced computer Motherboard failure quite often, not sure if the high voltage is the cause. Do you think I should get an AVR to play safe?

Btw, I have also been using an old AVR at another outlet . That AVR got a LED display which gives a reading of 230V constant. But when I plug in the Power Analyzer to the AVR, the reading on the analyzer shows 219-220V. Any idea why the reading is lower than the AVR? Since it's on borderline low is there any danger involved to the equipment plugged into the AVR ?

Thanks for your valuable advice smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2011, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 26 2011, 12:38 AM)
First of all sorry for the typo , it's 247V (as you already know). On another outlet it's about 245V.

For the 247V outlet, it will fluctuate slightly +/- some decimals. Sometimes it may go to 246V briefly , sometimes 248V briefly.

Since it's borderline high, I am afraid it may go above 250V sometime when not observing. I have experienced computer Motherboard failure quite often, not sure if the high voltage is the cause. Do you think I should get an AVR to play safe?

Thanks for your valuable advice smile.gif
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Are all the motherboards that failed came from the same computer or power supply? Normally if supplied voltage is causing problems, the 1st thing that should be affected is the power supplies & not the motherboard. Is there any other electrical appliances that failed frequently?
Anyway if you suspect the culprit is the supplied voltage, an AVR from a good brand/manufacturer will ensure your electrical appliances gets the voltage within spec.
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QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Nov 26 2011, 01:12 AM)
Are all the motherboards that failed came from the same computer or power supply? Normally if supplied voltage is causing problems, the 1st thing that should be affected is the power supplies & not the motherboard. Is there any other electrical appliances that failed frequently?
Anyway if you suspect the culprit is the supplied voltage, an AVR from a good brand/manufacturer will ensure your electrical appliances gets the voltage within spec.
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Mostly the same computer and power supply. Change MB few times but use back Power Supply which was not damaged. The PSU is expensive brand and provides sufficient voltage.

So what do you think about the different readings from the AVR and the Analyzer? I suspect the AVRs in the market are con job.

I tested another AVR (different brand in another room) which is also displaying the 230V in the LED display. But the Analyzer plugged in shows 244-245V.
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 26 2011, 10:31 AM)
Mostly the same computer and power supply.  Change MB few times but use back Power Supply which was not damaged. The PSU is expensive brand and provides sufficient voltage.

So what do you think about the different readings from the AVR and the Analyzer? I suspect the AVRs in the market are con job.

I tested another AVR (different brand in another room) which is also displaying the 230V in the LED display. But the Analyzer plugged in shows 244-245V.
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1. Frequent motherboard failure issue, it is advisable to check the output capacitor in your power supply. They are located near those wires coming out from the power supply. Lookout for bulging or leaked capacitors.

2. It is odd that both AVR output such a big differences. The cheapest AVR are normally only designed to prevent power fluctuation, so if the power in your house fluctuate between 240~250v the AVR will out approximately 245v (depends on design) constantly. A better AVR will incorporate design to output at a fixed preset rate eg. 230v constant. Some expensive AVR even have the capability of a power conditioner to smoothen or remove noise in the power.

Since i do not know which type of AVR you are using, it is hard for me to to provide an answer on why 2 AVR output such a big difference. It might be of poorly designed or degrading and thus out of spec. You can however check whether the reading on the wattmeter is accurate by cross referencing with a multimeter (True RMS type if possible) or we can test it out for you when you send back the wattmeter to us. smile.gif
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Thanks for your helpful advice.

I had sent the PSU to repair shop to check before, but the technician didn't find any problems.

If two different AVR (supposed to be 230V) shows different readings with the Analyzer (one high , one low) , then I would suspect the AVR are not operating as specified. If it was the fault of the analyzer then it would either show both High or both Low, not one High and One Low smile.gif.
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Hi there, my unit LCD screen show no number and the backlight LCD keeps on flickering. Can I get exchange warranty?
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QUOTE(hajimee_kindaichi @ Dec 2 2011, 06:42 PM)
Hi there, my unit LCD screen show no number and the backlight LCD keeps on flickering. Can I get exchange warranty?
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Kindly send the faulty unit back to us for warranty claim. smile.gif
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Bro, replacement watt meter received today.

Very fast and good service. rclxms.gif

Btw, this is very easy and good device to use calculate the cost of energy. thumbup.gif
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Is this watt meter have a battery to retain the data once power off?

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I'm interested in getting 3-4 units plus shipping to Penang. Please PM me best price. Do you accept PayPal?

By the way, do you sell any non-plug type power monitoring such as Efergy E2 Wireless Monitor (http://www.efergy.us/index.php/usa/products-usa/electricity-monitors/e2v2-wirelesss-monitor.html)?

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I ordered from him and received the items the next day. Now testing it out!

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Interested in buying one.
Been looking everywhere for this kill-a-watt thing but no one selling them.

PM price and details please.
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QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Aug 30 2011, 02:47 AM)
Item(s): Watt/Volt Meter with Electricity/Power Consumption Calculator

Package includes: Multifunctional Wattmeter with english language manual in retail box.

Price : RM$87
Shipping & handling : $6 West Malaysia / $9 East Malaysia

Dealing method: Poslaju

Warranty: 1 year local warranty

Ever wonder which electrical appliance in your house is the most power hungry? Just plug it into the Multifunctional Wattmeter and you will know the answer in seconds. With these easy to use device, you no longer need to pay high electrical bills by identifying & eliminating those old & inefficient electrical appliances. rclxm9.gif

Kindly refer to this link for more usage examples : Watt Meter with TNB Bill Calculator,  Post #29

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Features :
  1. Measure supply voltage in real-time.
  2. Measure appliances power usage in real-time (0~3000W)
  3. Show accumulated power consumption (0~9999kWh)
  4. Calculate the cost of energy according to the preset price of energy (0~$9999); price of energy can be preset to the local price by users.
    Two ways for calculating power consumption and power cost: electricity consumption and electricity cost in single operation period and
    accumulated electricity consumption and electricity cost in all operation periods; can be manually cleared to 0.
  5. Operation condition monitor: The indicator light will flicker when the real-time ratio of operation condition reaches its alarm point.
    Ratio of operation condition is the ratio between accumulated operation time per hour (running power is over preset standby power)
    and 1 hour. Alarm point for ratio of operation condition and standby power can be preset.
  6. Show the operation time of appliances (0~24h~9999d). Two ways for calculating operation time: time in single operation period and
    accumulated time in all operation periods; can be manually cleared into 0.

Working conditions :
  Voltage : 160~280V AC, 50Hz
  Peak load : 15A
  Temperature : -10~60°C
  Humidity : 10~95% RH

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Kindly refer to the topic below for other measuring equipments & accessories such as handy luggage weighting scale, battery tester, thermometer for human :
[WTS] Measuring Equipments & Accessories
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post Feb 27 2012, 12:46 AM

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Hi,

Can this device acted as Power saver ? so that I can reduce my electric bill..hmm I don't know how to explain exactly biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:34 AM

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No, it is a device/tool for you to identify which electrical appliance is using the most power in your house so that you can replace it with a more power efficient model. Kindly refer to post #29 for more usage examples :-

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