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[WTS] Watt Meter with TNB Bill Calculator, Find out why your TNB bill is so high...
[WTS] Watt Meter with TNB Bill Calculator, Find out why your TNB bill is so high...
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Nov 18 2011, 08:58 PM
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Nov 25 2011, 07:16 PM
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4,350 posts Joined: Sep 2005 |
Can I ask the experts here.
I measured my Wall Power output is around 247W. Most of appliances like Computer PSU is only rated for around 230V usage if I am not mistaken. Is the Wall output almost 250V too high. Will it shorten the lifespan or cause damage to equipment? |
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Nov 25 2011, 07:30 PM
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27 posts Joined: Jul 2011 From: Mersing |
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Nov 25 2011, 09:04 PM
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29 posts Joined: Dec 2010 From: Johor |
QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 25 2011, 07:16 PM) Can I ask the experts here. Are all the wall sockets in your house measured at around 247v constantly? If yes, my guess is your house probably situated near a TNB substation. Although 247v is on the high side, there's no need to be alarmed as all you might experience are fans runs slightly faster, water heater runs slightly hotter etc. What you really need to take notice is if the measurement at the wall power outlets are on the low side (below 220v). Below are examples that causes low supplied voltage :I measured my Wall Power output is around 247W. Most of appliances like Computer PSU is only rated for around 230V usage if I am not mistaken. Is the Wall output almost 250V too high. Will it shorten the lifespan or cause damage to equipment? 1. Wiring too old & degraded. 2. Termination or point of contacts oxidation. 3. Using power extension with low quality copper wiring or steel wiring (rare but exist) 4. Sharing the same power outlet with a high power appliance. Constant low supplied voltage causes electrical appliances to fail prematurely due to overworked & overheated, wiring to catches fire etc. Any corrections or additional info from experts are welcome. |
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Nov 26 2011, 12:38 AM
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4,350 posts Joined: Sep 2005 |
QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Nov 25 2011, 09:04 PM) Are all the wall sockets in your house measured at around 247v constantly? If yes, my guess is your house probably situated near a TNB substation. Although 247v is on the high side, there's no need to be alarmed as all you might experience are fans runs slightly faster, water heater runs slightly hotter etc. What you really need to take notice is if the measurement at the wall power outlets are on the low side (below 220v). Below are examples that causes low supplied voltage : First of all sorry for the typo , it's 247V (as you already know). On another outlet it's about 245V.1. Wiring too old & degraded. 2. Termination or point of contacts oxidation. 3. Using power extension with low quality copper wiring or steel wiring (rare but exist) 4. Sharing the same power outlet with a high power appliance. Constant low supplied voltage causes electrical appliances to fail prematurely due to overworked & overheated, wiring to catches fire etc. Any corrections or additional info from experts are welcome. For the 247V outlet, it will fluctuate slightly +/- some decimals. Sometimes it may go to 246V briefly , sometimes 248V briefly. Since it's borderline high, I am afraid it may go above 250V sometime when not observing. I have experienced computer Motherboard failure quite often, not sure if the high voltage is the cause. Do you think I should get an AVR to play safe? Btw, I have also been using an old AVR at another outlet . That AVR got a LED display which gives a reading of 230V constant. But when I plug in the Power Analyzer to the AVR, the reading on the analyzer shows 219-220V. Any idea why the reading is lower than the AVR? Since it's on borderline low is there any danger involved to the equipment plugged into the AVR ? Thanks for your valuable advice This post has been edited by Ngto: Nov 26 2011, 12:49 AM |
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Nov 26 2011, 01:12 AM
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29 posts Joined: Dec 2010 From: Johor |
QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 26 2011, 12:38 AM) First of all sorry for the typo , it's 247V (as you already know). On another outlet it's about 245V. Are all the motherboards that failed came from the same computer or power supply? Normally if supplied voltage is causing problems, the 1st thing that should be affected is the power supplies & not the motherboard. Is there any other electrical appliances that failed frequently? For the 247V outlet, it will fluctuate slightly +/- some decimals. Sometimes it may go to 246V briefly , sometimes 248V briefly. Since it's borderline high, I am afraid it may go above 250V sometime when not observing. I have experienced computer Motherboard failure quite often, not sure if the high voltage is the cause. Do you think I should get an AVR to play safe? Thanks for your valuable advice Anyway if you suspect the culprit is the supplied voltage, an AVR from a good brand/manufacturer will ensure your electrical appliances gets the voltage within spec. |
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Nov 26 2011, 10:31 AM
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4,350 posts Joined: Sep 2005 |
QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Nov 26 2011, 01:12 AM) Are all the motherboards that failed came from the same computer or power supply? Normally if supplied voltage is causing problems, the 1st thing that should be affected is the power supplies & not the motherboard. Is there any other electrical appliances that failed frequently? Mostly the same computer and power supply. Change MB few times but use back Power Supply which was not damaged. The PSU is expensive brand and provides sufficient voltage.Anyway if you suspect the culprit is the supplied voltage, an AVR from a good brand/manufacturer will ensure your electrical appliances gets the voltage within spec. So what do you think about the different readings from the AVR and the Analyzer? I suspect the AVRs in the market are con job. I tested another AVR (different brand in another room) which is also displaying the 230V in the LED display. But the Analyzer plugged in shows 244-245V. |
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Nov 26 2011, 07:15 PM
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29 posts Joined: Dec 2010 From: Johor |
QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 26 2011, 10:31 AM) Mostly the same computer and power supply. Change MB few times but use back Power Supply which was not damaged. The PSU is expensive brand and provides sufficient voltage. 1. Frequent motherboard failure issue, it is advisable to check the output capacitor in your power supply. They are located near those wires coming out from the power supply. Lookout for bulging or leaked capacitors.So what do you think about the different readings from the AVR and the Analyzer? I suspect the AVRs in the market are con job. I tested another AVR (different brand in another room) which is also displaying the 230V in the LED display. But the Analyzer plugged in shows 244-245V. 2. It is odd that both AVR output such a big differences. The cheapest AVR are normally only designed to prevent power fluctuation, so if the power in your house fluctuate between 240~250v the AVR will out approximately 245v (depends on design) constantly. A better AVR will incorporate design to output at a fixed preset rate eg. 230v constant. Some expensive AVR even have the capability of a power conditioner to smoothen or remove noise in the power. Since i do not know which type of AVR you are using, it is hard for me to to provide an answer on why 2 AVR output such a big difference. It might be of poorly designed or degrading and thus out of spec. You can however check whether the reading on the wattmeter is accurate by cross referencing with a multimeter (True RMS type if possible) or we can test it out for you when you send back the wattmeter to us. |
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Nov 27 2011, 09:18 AM
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4,350 posts Joined: Sep 2005 |
Thanks for your helpful advice.
I had sent the PSU to repair shop to check before, but the technician didn't find any problems. If two different AVR (supposed to be 230V) shows different readings with the Analyzer (one high , one low) , then I would suspect the AVR are not operating as specified. If it was the fault of the analyzer then it would either show both High or both Low, not one High and One Low |
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Dec 2 2011, 06:42 PM
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6 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Puchong, Selangor |
Hi there, my unit LCD screen show no number and the backlight LCD keeps on flickering. Can I get exchange warranty?
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Dec 2 2011, 10:58 PM
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29 posts Joined: Dec 2010 From: Johor |
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Dec 17 2011, 03:29 PM
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Bro, replacement watt meter received today.
Very fast and good service. Btw, this is very easy and good device to use calculate the cost of energy. |
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Dec 21 2011, 12:14 AM
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17,021 posts Joined: Jan 2005 |
Is this watt meter have a battery to retain the data once power off?
Pm me the price. Deliver to bandar Sunday, slang or. |
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Feb 8 2012, 08:35 AM
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384 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: Penang |
I'm interested in getting 3-4 units plus shipping to Penang. Please PM me best price. Do you accept PayPal?
By the way, do you sell any non-plug type power monitoring such as Efergy E2 Wireless Monitor (http://www.efergy.us/index.php/usa/products-usa/electricity-monitors/e2v2-wirelesss-monitor.html)? Thanks in advance! ------------------------------------------------------------------- fast and responsive seller. I ordered from him and received the items the next day. Now testing it out! This post has been edited by maxcheam: Feb 10 2012, 11:46 AM |
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Feb 9 2012, 05:04 PM
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50 posts Joined: Sep 2005 |
Bro,
Want to get one. Can COD in KL/PJ ? |
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Feb 9 2012, 06:06 PM
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0 posts Joined: Feb 2012 |
PM the best price + postage to JB.
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Feb 11 2012, 02:37 PM
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944 posts Joined: Jan 2007 |
Interested in buying one.
Been looking everywhere for this kill-a-watt thing but no one selling them. PM price and details please. COD or ship to KL. |
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Feb 16 2012, 01:14 AM
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2 posts Joined: Oct 2011 |
Still available pos to Nilai 3. TQ QUOTE(vMart@lowyat @ Aug 30 2011, 02:47 AM) Item(s): Watt/Volt Meter with Electricity/Power Consumption Calculator Package includes: Multifunctional Wattmeter with english language manual in retail box. Price : RM$87 Shipping & handling : $6 West Malaysia / $9 East Malaysia Dealing method: Poslaju Warranty: 1 year local warranty Ever wonder which electrical appliance in your house is the most power hungry? Just plug it into the Multifunctional Wattmeter and you will know the answer in seconds. With these easy to use device, you no longer need to pay high electrical bills by identifying & eliminating those old & inefficient electrical appliances. Kindly refer to this link for more usage examples : Watt Meter with TNB Bill Calculator, Post #29 ![]() Features : 1. Measure supply voltage in real-time. 2. Measure appliances power usage in real-time (0~3000W) 3. Show accumulated power consumption (0~9999kWh) 4. Calculate the cost of energy according to the preset price of energy (0~$9999); price of energy can be preset to the local price by users. Two ways for calculating power consumption and power cost: electricity consumption and electricity cost in single operation period and accumulated electricity consumption and electricity cost in all operation periods; can be manually cleared to 0. 5. Operation condition monitor: The indicator light will flicker when the real-time ratio of operation condition reaches its alarm point. Ratio of operation condition is the ratio between accumulated operation time per hour (running power is over preset standby power) and 1 hour. Alarm point for ratio of operation condition and standby power can be preset. 6. Show the operation time of appliances (0~24h~9999d). Two ways for calculating operation time: time in single operation period and accumulated time in all operation periods; can be manually cleared into 0. Working conditions : Voltage : 160~280V AC, 50Hz Peak load : 15A Temperature : -10~60°C Humidity : 10~95% RH ![]() Kindly refer to the topic below for other measuring equipments & accessories such as handy luggage weighting scale, battery tester, thermometer for human : [WTS] Measuring Equipments & Accessories |
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Feb 27 2012, 12:46 AM
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130 posts Joined: Apr 2008 |
Hi,
Can this device acted as Power saver ? so that I can reduce my electric bill..hmm I don't know how to explain exactly |
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Feb 27 2012, 01:34 AM
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29 posts Joined: Dec 2010 From: Johor |
No, it is a device/tool for you to identify which electrical appliance is using the most power in your house so that you can replace it with a more power efficient model. Kindly refer to post #29 for more usage examples :-
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