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stormlcc
post Aug 29 2011, 10:02 PM

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TS disappeared with his 120y already
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post Aug 30 2011, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Aug 28 2011, 09:16 PM)
120y is 1200cc engine

it's illegal if u don't register it at jpj, FYI, a lot of ppl say cannot register because 1.2 upgrade to 1.8 or 2.0 is more than 25% cubic capacity set by jpj, but this is totally wrong, i've seen 120y with CA18 and SR20 successfully registered, but the runner fees won't be cheap, prepare RM1300 to 1500 just for the puspakom inspection and jpj registration.

TS, if u have around or more than 6k budget, u can opt for CA18det, budget = or more than 9k go for SR20det, google if u don't know what engines they are. 

if u have only 4k then below is doable (GA16de sentra engine + datsun 210 gearbox or other car's gearbox that can fit.  i don't know whether they sell halfcuts of the Nissan Serena GA16de in Malaysia or not, if u can find one, then it's a RWD transmission):

http://sr20nation.com/ga16forum/showthread...sion-for-GA16DE
if u don't want nissan engine, then the toyota 16valve from the AE86 can fit, it's cheap nowadays but it's very old

if u don't care about FC or maintenance, u can even put in a Mazda B13 Rotary engine, which is MAD!

but most important of all, like vinothrao84 said, make sure you strengthen your chassis first, or else, u'll split your car in half if too much power

this kind of conversions are not hard, u need to have lot's of spare cash, and lots of patience, and the result is very rewarding.  You probably can give your 120y to your children and they can still use it as a daily drive after your project is completed
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do you even know what you're saying?

converting to 1.8L or 2.0L is ILLEGAL according to JPJ. not just engine need to be checked, the braking and suspension system need to be properly do up especially on such a light chassis. using runner? just wait till next round of JPJ checks, let see how many times you need to fork out money to check.

CA18DET? parts already out of production more than 5 years. no more parts. people are dumping this engine for SR20DET. there are other do-able engines such as SR16VE or nissan vanette A15 (plug and play).

4AGE 16V is cheap? the halfcut itself costs more than RM5k. engine is not old compared to 120y's stock engine and CA18DET. but sourcing for parts will kill you as people are jacking up AE86 part prices.

B13 rotary is good also, know one fella did it. power is good and car's body weight is balanced.

For RWD, you will not split your car in half. only FWD will.

parts for 120Y is abundance as the car was produced in taiwan under "yue loong" name till 1991.


TS,
for 120Y, get some weber and you're good to go.
MyZee
post Aug 30 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 29 2011, 09:03 PM)
keep it classic bro, you are fortunate u have a pristine 120y, i still looking for 1 to keep.

don't do too much modification, overhaul the engine, make it look like just came out from the factory.
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Agree with AlexLee277. Restore it to mint condition first.
Reliable car thou.
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post Aug 30 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(MyZee @ Aug 30 2011, 02:46 PM)
Agree with AlexLee277. Restore it to mint condition first.
Reliable car thou.
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i agree on this..no need for performance much..restore it the interior..will be superb..
summore can attract chicks perhaps? brows.gif
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post Aug 30 2011, 03:04 PM

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yea, old car are sexy if u restore it..

for an example, currently looking for a 240z too..

see how sexy is it?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


that is not mine ofcourse, all the 240z in malaysia is like extinct already

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post Aug 30 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ocphangaz @ Aug 30 2011, 12:49 AM)
do you even know what you're saying?

converting to 1.8L or 2.0L is ILLEGAL according to JPJ. not just engine need to be checked, the braking and suspension system need to be properly do up especially on such a light chassis. using runner? just wait till next round of JPJ checks, let see how many times you need to fork out money to check.

CA18DET? parts already out of production more than 5 years. no more parts. people are dumping this engine for SR20DET. there are other do-able engines such as SR16VE or nissan vanette A15 (plug and play).

4AGE 16V is cheap? the halfcut itself costs more than RM5k. engine is not old compared to 120y's stock engine and CA18DET. but sourcing for parts will kill you as people are jacking up AE86 part prices.

B13 rotary is good also, know one fella did it. power is good and car's body weight is balanced.

For RWD, you will not split your car in half. only FWD will.

parts for 120Y is abundance as the car was produced in taiwan under "yue loong" name till 1991.
TS,
for 120Y, get some weber and you're good to go.
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read la jpj website again
who say 2l conversion is illegal ?
only apply to proton except perdana
and here is malaysia . and most here do engine conversion jpj issue are done using jpj runner
ur jpj strong connection enuff , everything can
beside the bullshit of getting in to trouble at roadblock because of 2l is pure rubbish
the letter of approval is by their superior so who are those to question the approval letter ?
stormlcc
post Aug 30 2011, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ocphangaz @ Aug 30 2011, 12:49 AM)
do you even know what you're saying?

converting to 1.8L or 2.0L is ILLEGAL according to JPJ. not just engine need to be checked, the braking and suspension system need to be properly do up especially on such a light chassis. using runner? just wait till next round of JPJ checks, let see how many times you need to fork out money to check.

CA18DET? parts already out of production more than 5 years. no more parts. people are dumping this engine for SR20DET. there are other do-able engines such as SR16VE or nissan vanette A15 (plug and play).

4AGE 16V is cheap? the halfcut itself costs more than RM5k. engine is not old compared to 120y's stock engine and CA18DET. but sourcing for parts will kill you as people are jacking up AE86 part prices.

B13 rotary is good also, know one fella did it. power is good and car's body weight is balanced.

For RWD, you will not split your car in half. only FWD will.

parts for 120Y is abundance as the car was produced in taiwan under "yue loong" name till 1991.
TS,
for 120Y, get some weber and you're good to go.
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of course it's illegal, UNTIL JPJ APPROVES THE CONVERSION, and it CAN BE APPROVED because there are so many 120y with SR20det out there that is LEGAL ON THE ROAD and I have seen their car grants by my own eyes. U disagree with me because either you don't have anybody around with this kind of LEGAL conversions or you WANT to do this kind of mod but failed the JPJ registration due to the fact that your runner is rubbish doing his job

CA18det of course is out of production, but if u know where to find parts they still got a lot of it, this includes 4age 16valve, and they ARE CHEAP if u know where to look, just like CA18det, many ppl already discarded them and focus on newer engines like the blacktop and SR series


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post Aug 31 2011, 01:02 AM

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I'm sorry for not replying to this thread as i was back in my hometown for raya and i forgot to bring my broadband along.

Thanks for all your comments. After reading all one by one, i've made my mind NOT to change the engine.

I've checked the engine condition and it's excellent so i thought why not use it.

I'm also dreaming to get my hands on a second hand proton wira so i guess i'll be selling this car.

So, anyone who needs this car can contact me. I'll open another thread in automotive garage for the sale of this car.

Thanks for all your comment guys !


Added on August 31, 2011, 1:13 am
QUOTE(lowpro @ Aug 29 2011, 08:21 PM)
which 120Y did you get? the B210 or B310? the b310 has 2 versions. one with round headlights then the later model came with the square headlights and the model just before the sunny 130Y had absorber bumpers. both have the same 1171cc engine. post a picture lah.
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Mine is b310 with square headlights

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percyteyu
post Aug 31 2011, 09:31 PM

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Why dont ask your grandfather since he is a mechanic ?
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post Sep 4 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(percyteyu @ Aug 31 2011, 09:31 PM)
Why dont ask your grandfather since he is a mechanic ?
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He doesn't want me to change the engine. According to him, the original engine is very good already.
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post Sep 4 2011, 04:49 PM

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so why are u "dreaming" to get a wira? that's like saying u are "dreaming" to get Syphilis or AIDS or any kind of disease.

keep the datsun, keep the engine, uprade the brakes and chassis, get rid of the rusty parts, recond the interior and u'll have a sweet ride, much sweeter than the wira.

use the datsun until the ori engine becomes very problematic (which I think is highly unlikely, it probably will out live u if u take care of it). Then u can decide whether to change car or change engine

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post Sep 4 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Sep 4 2011, 04:49 PM)
so why are u "dreaming" to get a wira? that's like saying u are "dreaming" to get Syphilis or AIDS or any kind of disease.

keep the datsun, keep the engine, uprade the brakes and chassis, get rid of the rusty parts, recond the interior and u'll have a sweet ride, much sweeter than the wira.

use the datsun until the ori engine becomes very problematic (which I think is highly unlikely, it probably will out live u if u take care of it).  Then u can decide whether to change car or change engine
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fyi, i already got a Wira. Yeah, i guess i wont be changing the engine. Malas wanna bring to jpj for inspection. (if i have to la)

I'm planning to do these. (give your opinions on these)

- re-do the interior.
- wrap all the seats with cover which looks like leather (imitation leather lah tongue.gif)
- Kenwood DVD player with slide in monitor (taken from my dad's waja ; he's using dual din kenwood now)
- window tints ( according to jpj specifications)
- lower the car
- get small rims like this ( Picture) Not exactly la but the rims would look like this.
- redo exhaust and make it twin exhaust.


What you think ??

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post Sep 5 2011, 11:28 AM

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if its the 2 door coupe version can be modded till quite nice and classic.
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post Sep 5 2011, 03:32 PM

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can fit in SR16DE VVTL Neo engine....pure VTEC killer....but of coz, when moded, cant win 4AGE 20V engine d
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 5 2011, 03:32 PM)
can fit in SR16DE VVTL Neo engine....pure VTEC killer....but of coz, when moded, cant win 4AGE 20V engine d
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use wat gb nee ?
intake manifold how to mod ?
original intake manifold thottle position facing gb leh
if flip the engine to north south configuration to suit rwd the thottle body sure facing firewall leh
unless u use sr20 rwd manufold lo
like 4age fwd 20valve not a direct pnp to ke70 or ae 86
need to relocated the distributor and intake manifold to face outward rather than firewall
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:56 AM

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1.5 is quit good edy for 120y chassis

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post Oct 10 2011, 11:01 AM

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Hi TS...
If u need more info bout Datsun 120y(B310) or other related things bout old school car pls PM me or register at www.olskool.org...
TQ biggrin.gif


Added on October 10, 2011, 11:02 amBtw ocphangaz is a master of Datsun 120y too... biggrin.gif

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