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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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kakiayam
post Sep 27 2011, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(mcdkfc @ Sep 27 2011, 09:59 AM)
Please refer my calculation :

I know buy/sell within a month is not long term. I just to cut my loses.

If I not sell, on paper my loses will be RM174 - RM162.63 (current buying price at PB) = RM11.37
BUT coz I sold, my lose -> RM174 - RM166 = RM8.

Then I buy back RM161.54. With current buying price at PB now is 162.63, on paper I get profit RM1.09.

So on paper right now, my total lost is only RM8 - RM1.09 = RM6.91 (NOT RM11.37).  biggrin.gif
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yes i know what u mean. What i mean is, if u keep repeating to cut your losses, in the end you got nothing to hold in your hand except the gold saving passbook with no value. RM6.91 per gram, lets say u have 20g in your account. You will loss RM6.91x20g= RM138.20. When the gold price drop and you keep 'cut losses', in the end you got nothing left except the gold saving passbook. I just let u know what is the difference between buying physical gold and paper gold smile.gif
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QUOTE(mcdkfc @ Sep 27 2011, 09:59 AM)
Please refer my calculation :

I know buy/sell within a month is not long term. I just to cut my loses.

If I not sell, on paper my loses will be RM174 - RM162.63 (current buying price at PB) = RM11.37
BUT coz I sold, my lose -> RM174 - RM166 = RM8.

Then I buy back RM161.54. With current buying price at PB now is 162.63, on paper I get profit RM1.09.

So on paper right now, my total lost is only RM8 - RM1.09 = RM6.91 (NOT RM11.37).  biggrin.gif
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Agreed .. cut your losses.


Added on September 27, 2011, 10:08 am1630 usd per oz.



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moon yuen
post Sep 27 2011, 10:18 AM

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some anayst seems to forsee GOLD further drop in price wo...
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:21 AM

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i don't think the scenario you paint here is likely la..that means it will continue to spiral down until zero..then yes...his method of cut loss will end up no value...
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but realistically...will it ever reach that low?

my personal answer is....no... although nothing is 100% sure in this world.... but 99% no chance of it happening...

QUOTE(kakiayam @ Sep 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
yes i know what u mean. What i mean is, if u keep repeating to cut your losses, in the end you got nothing to hold in your hand except the gold saving passbook with no value. RM6.91 per gram, lets say u have 20g in your account. You will loss RM6.91x20g= RM138.20. When the gold price drop and you keep 'cut losses', in the end you got nothing left except the gold saving passbook. I just let u know what is the difference between buying physical gold and paper gold smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:21 AM

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maybe .. it all depends on the euro debt crisis..
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(kakiayam @ Sep 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
yes i know what u mean. What i mean is, if u keep repeating to cut your losses, in the end you got nothing to hold in your hand except the gold saving passbook with no value. RM6.91 per gram, lets say u have 20g in your account. You will loss RM6.91x20g= RM138.20. When the gold price drop and you keep 'cut losses', in the end you got nothing left except the gold saving passbook. I just let u know what is the difference between buying physical gold and paper gold smile.gif
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In term of calculation of profit n loss between physical gold and paper gold, I can't see the different. We calculate profit and lost by using $ sign. smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 27 2011, 08:45 AM)
WHat long term investment??? Buying n selling within a month is long term for you?? You are gonna get burnt if you continue to invest like this. If ure looking for long term investment, then WAIT for prices to drop further. Then buy and HOLD. Dont buy n sell like stocks unless u are into ETF's.
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true...hahah...may be some people enjoy the transaction of trading, buy sell buy sell...

today CIMB steadily RM168, i will reload if it drop near to RM160 or lower, who knows...

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post Sep 27 2011, 10:49 AM

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kitco gold 1637 usd/oz .

us dollar trend coming down..

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post Sep 27 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Sep 27 2011, 10:49 AM)
kitco gold 1637 usd/oz .

us dollar trend coming down..
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yup USD seem to gone down yesterday, will continue today? will gold up because of USD going down? just analyze it yourself tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:58 AM

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Do you guys think we're seeing a deflationary situation happening vis a vis the USD and gold? Seems awfully rapid for deflation to occur, though panic could account for significant part of gold sell-off.
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post Sep 27 2011, 10:59 AM

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i think it will push up a bit but it won't be up trend for a while.
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 27 2011, 10:54 AM)
yup USD seem to gone down yesterday, will continue today? will gold up because of USD going down?  just analyze it yourself tongue.gif
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stock up today after yesterday sell off
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:04 AM

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The hype has finished off the small fries? Damn, I missed the 1900 mark then! Coulda pocketed a cool 2000. But driving to banks just for deposit and withdrawals are wasteful too.
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Sep 27 2011, 11:01 AM)
stock up today after yesterday sell off
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its gonna be down in short term...
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:26 AM

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Will top up when gold price below RM161/g... today maybe impossible... waiting tomorrow trend...
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:26 AM

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This cut loss thingy is gonna cost these sheeple aplenty....

The moves in gold will cost these type plenty in that they will be WILD and rclxub.gif

These type are gonna be attracted when the price runs up, buying high and

SELLING on the low violent swings calling this CUT LOSS..

Well you are going to be forever doing that!
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 27 2011, 11:26 AM)
This cut loss thingy is gonna cost these sheeple aplenty....

The moves in gold will cost these type plenty in that they will be WILD and  rclxub.gif

These type are gonna be attracted when the price runs up, buying high and

SELLING on the low violent swings calling this CUT LOSS..

Well you are going to be forever doing that!
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the other bombastic words they are using for opposite are "dollar cost averaging" tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:41 AM

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kitco gold 1645 usd/oz

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post Sep 27 2011, 11:43 AM

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For me the target of RM 160 or below seem not logic. If gold really drop lower like yesterday, most investor already 'aim' that price and buy it immediately eventually push the price up.

By the time Malaysia bank update (yea no doubt is too slow), gold price is getting higher and higher.

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post Sep 27 2011, 11:50 AM

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yesterday dropped, today rileks time and tomorrow will drop again... biggrin.gif

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