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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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mcdkfc
post Sep 7 2011, 01:56 PM

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Hi, I'm new here. Just opened PBB GIA. Will start invest now. :)
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post Sep 7 2011, 02:29 PM

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bro cyber, thanks for the info. Don't forget to tell me when you get the best price to buy. I also plan to top up around RM20k. But I'm worry bcoz I'm new. :)
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post Sep 9 2011, 10:25 AM

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as a newbie, don't know when the right time to buy.

To the otai2 here, do you think the price will be fall down below RM172/g at this month?
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post Sep 9 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kobEj0rdan~ @ Sep 9 2011, 11:31 AM)
do not wait to buy gold, just buy. gold is not a short term investment brader icon_rolleyes.gif
Agreed with you. but if we get more cheaper, much better. Around this month, my target to buy is below RM175/g. Not sure can get it or not. wink.gif
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post Sep 9 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 9 2011, 01:58 PM)
Plan to open Public Bank GIA due to they allow online transaction but I heard the spread is quite high compare to UOB
via online, save your time, save your energy, save your fuel, can do it at kedai mamak; anywhere..., on the spot can check actual price before confirm etc...

yesterday I did it at the meeting room. When my boss present paperwork with my CEO, I search internet via my gadget and got to buy RM179/g biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mingophoria @ Sep 12 2011, 10:51 AM)
u think now is a time to go in???
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if the price drop, it will not much different.
Sometime u can see the price drop in USD, but when convert to MYR with current exchange rate, the price is increase.
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post Sep 12 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(giggs_509 @ Sep 12 2011, 03:57 PM)
Just now bought 10g. Ask the maybank staff about physical withdraw. She said only at selected branch. Is it true?
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I think they are refering on buying physical gold - kijang emas.
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post Sep 14 2011, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(o0o0 @ Sep 14 2011, 11:50 AM)
i think today market will acting same as pass few days..
morning: upward trend
evening: downward trend
night: upward trend

any one have idea why the trend is like that?
what i can think of is currently different region country have different buy/sell behavior and trend, and due to time zone their market is open at different time.
That's y will have this kind of trend continuously few days...
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means that malaysian market always up. when we can see gold & USD down at the same time?
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post Sep 23 2011, 09:55 AM

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gold price, please drop more and more... I want to buy...
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post Sep 26 2011, 08:59 AM

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Today price MBB - 173.41/g. Good to buy?
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:23 AM

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keep looking the pattern, hopefully goes down more & more...
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 26 2011, 10:05 AM)
Maybank rates at RM172.07 now. US$1,646. We'll get a better indication when European markets open later in the afternoon. But my guess is that gold will go down further. But in Malaysia, prices dont drop as rapidly as the USD keeps on rising. USD now at 3.19
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yeahhh... price drop - USD up, M'sia price not much different...
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Sep 26 2011, 10:34 AM)
UOB offering 170.90. wonder should i go in now.  hmm.gif
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I think the price should be ok for today. If goes up or down, +/- not much different...
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 26 2011, 03:12 PM)
This UOB is like that, when price increased, very fast update on their website, when price dropped they normally just ignore unless very much different
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UOB also panic... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 26 2011, 04:17 PM)
this is one advantage of using online public bank to purchase gold... no need to waste time and effor to go to bank...
and also you can buy/sell quite fast...

just now got ppl say the website cannot login and sell...but no issue for me...
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agreed... by using PB, it is easy to handle. What I did today, cut loses and buy back in at cheaper w/ more grams... biggrin.gif

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post Sep 27 2011, 08:43 AM

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Yesterday, I cut my loses. I bought 100g last month RM174/g and I sold at RM166/g. Then I buy again 100g at price RM161.54/g. Do I doing the correct action for long term investment?
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post Sep 27 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 27 2011, 08:45 AM)
WHat long term investment??? Buying n selling within a month is long term for you?? You are gonna get burnt if you continue to invest like this. If ure looking for long term investment, then WAIT for prices to drop further. Then buy and HOLD. Dont buy n sell like stocks unless u are into ETF's.
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I know buy/sell within a month is not long term. I just to cut my loses.

If I not sell, on paper my loses will be RM174 - RM162.63 (current buying price at PB) = RM11.37
BUT coz I sold, my lose -> RM174 - RM166 = RM8.

Then I buy back RM161.54. With current buying price at PB now is 162.63, on paper I get profit RM1.09.

So on paper right now, my total lost is only RM8 - RM1.09 = RM6.91 (NOT RM11.37). biggrin.gif


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post Sep 27 2011, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(kakiayam @ Sep 27 2011, 09:41 AM)
this is totally wrong. For me i hold the real gold in my hand. You bought the gold at high price n sell the gold at lower price, u loss some money. Keep repeating this will make your money less and less. Lets say if you invest 2k into gold acc, buy high sell low n keep repeating this, maybe after 1 year the money u invest (2k) become 200 and from the begining till the end. You didnt get anything except losses. This is the reason why i buy real gold. No matter the gold price drop or raise, the gold still with me and i didnt loss anything. The value of the gold drop? I dont think so, as i see what happened these few days, all the seller suspend their web server or they just put 'out of stock'. It means that at this time, you got money also cant buy the real gold with the current spot price, unless you offer higher price.
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Please refer my calculation :

I know buy/sell within a month is not long term. I just to cut my loses.

If I not sell, on paper my loses will be RM174 - RM162.63 (current buying price at PB) = RM11.37
BUT coz I sold, my lose -> RM174 - RM166 = RM8.

Then I buy back RM161.54. With current buying price at PB now is 162.63, on paper I get profit RM1.09.

So on paper right now, my total lost is only RM8 - RM1.09 = RM6.91 (NOT RM11.37). biggrin.gif

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post Sep 27 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(kakiayam @ Sep 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
yes i know what u mean. What i mean is, if u keep repeating to cut your losses, in the end you got nothing to hold in your hand except the gold saving passbook with no value. RM6.91 per gram, lets say u have 20g in your account. You will loss RM6.91x20g= RM138.20. When the gold price drop and you keep 'cut losses', in the end you got nothing left except the gold saving passbook. I just let u know what is the difference between buying physical gold and paper gold smile.gif
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In term of calculation of profit n loss between physical gold and paper gold, I can't see the different. We calculate profit and lost by using $ sign. smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2011, 11:26 AM

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Will top up when gold price below RM161/g... today maybe impossible... waiting tomorrow trend...

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