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annielee
post Apr 14 2012, 05:55 PM

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erm..you mean applying without PR ?
your chances will be very low...and you are not even in Aus..its even lower..

QUOTE(Beverage chef @ Apr 14 2012, 05:45 PM)
I would like to apply online position of manager in hotels. Do u guys think its possible? 8 years experience in hotels. No cert. my current job is traveling south east asia to advise on food and beverage industry. Give training as well. Hows the pay like?
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annielee
post Apr 14 2012, 06:27 PM

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since you know a lot of directors, you can ask for transfer to Oz branch hotel..
usually sponsored work visa is for those skills that is in demand there..
my advise to you is to research and read Oz migration forums to see what is the option available for you..

QUOTE(Beverage chef @ Apr 14 2012, 06:16 PM)
Anyway can help? Can the company give me the visa to work there? Is it possible? I do know a lot of directors in malaysia that can recommend me to aus. For example hotels like shangrila, westin, sofitel....
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annielee
post Apr 15 2012, 09:35 AM

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usually those listed in sol, means the skills shortage and in demand..
wat i can say is, its a big step moving to oz to work, so make sure you do some homework first..

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 15 2012, 09:29 AM)
Unfortunately it does not tell a lot of the actual demand
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annielee
post Apr 15 2012, 10:20 AM

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agree..1st job is always the toughest...thats y dun expect much from 1st job..but the salary is still alright..
after 1st job with some local experience, u can demand more on ur subsequent job..

QUOTE(naleh33 @ Apr 15 2012, 10:11 AM)
Even the job is listed in the demand list skill, it does not mean that you are able to get a job easily in Oz. Their hiring process is very much different from Malaysia. They paid very detailed attention your experience and always preferred with local experience. So landing the first job is always the toughest.

If it is for your kiddos, you can always send them here to study and apply for PR and eventually get a job. That is the easier path.
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annielee
post Apr 18 2012, 11:37 AM

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i find it quite funny when u said if they found out that u r 35 they wont hire you...
as that is consider age discrimination..and u should know that union is very strong in Oz..
in my CV, i didnt put age or marital status..and they r not supposed to ask..coz it will be deem as discrimination..

i guess it depends on which field u r in..im in IT and im employed in an Oz company which have quite a lot of asian also...
im not saying no discrimination, they are definitely discrimination everywhere...as long as you are good at your work or skills, then u wont be hard getting a job, but need time lor.. as 1st job will be the hardest..


QUOTE(helikev @ Apr 16 2012, 03:10 AM)
i am aussie PR. qualified accountant. back in 2009. cannot find job. every day send application, from CFO position to a/c clerk position, also no proper interview. job agency will interview u, but it's like you just fill in the number for another guy to get the job.

but relative an engineer, got a good job. now proly aud 200k a year. only mining do well. if u over 35 yo. difficult. they dun wan to hire u thinking u will leave after they train u. stupid .

my fren work their in hotel. when he was 30 yo, he went over. had to start from bottom. hardest part, is report to younger & less experienced aussie. they all can talk until bird come down, but when u need doing. maybe 1 out of 10 can do only. he said aussie very rank conscious. once he got a small promotion, people start to see him as a person.

now my fren in perth. another hotel. supervise few aussie. like monkeys he said.

i dun know but i got feeling it's like bangla in msia. they do jobs we dun like to do. u go u become bangla..

my experience, u think they welcome u with open arms ? no.

Polite to u ? yes, if they are not drunk.

all this in perth. maybe melbourne / sydnet better.

but perth is mining town booming.

unless u dun mind work in factory or kitchen. at least get min pay , about aud36000 a year.

stupid, i got skilled migration, but go work for factory. all this for my kids education....? some will do.

maybe better for next generation. otherwise, just go over for easy life. not stress.
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annielee
post Apr 19 2012, 04:58 PM

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it all depends on your points..doesnt means u r spore PR, u will get priority..
for eg, u can b sponsored by oz company, but if ur points isnt enough, it wont help also..

again, read more n see wat options u have..


QUOTE(jess08 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:45 PM)
I personally think racist happens everywhere, even Singaporean look down on Malaysian. I have a question to ask regarding PR, is it easier to apply for PR if you have job sponsorship by AU company? Will it be as easy as getting PR in SG after working for 1 or 2 years in AU, and then you can apply for AU PR?

I might potentially get a job in AU, and need to start looking for accomodation. Company location is in Melbourne. Is anyone here looking for housemate?
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annielee
post May 24 2012, 07:39 AM

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which part are you based ? what industry are you in ?

QUOTE(Job2Go @ May 23 2012, 10:17 AM)
are there many pple interested to come to au to work? hmmm. anyw hi guys im in oz now woo
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annielee
post May 29 2012, 01:28 PM

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if you are applying under GSM, nope..ur skills must be in the list and family members does not carry any points anymore..since last year i think..

QUOTE(echobrainproject @ May 29 2012, 01:24 PM)
what if my engineering degree is not in the list, but I have a family member who is a citizen (not PR)? would that be of enough points?
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Added on May 29, 2012, 1:30 pmthere are jobs for Network Engineer..depends which level (beginner, advance) and which track (SP, Voice, DC or Security) you are in..
and of course, its better with a visa..not many company will sponsor for Network Engineer role..

QUOTE(K2002 @ May 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
how about IT jobs like network engineer there? any chance get a job there? Western Australia? anyone heard of 457 visa mining?
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annielee
post Jun 22 2012, 03:18 PM

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well..the page got closed..
so we moved to FB..search for the same name, and join the group...


QUOTE(VpowerZone @ Jun 22 2012, 01:27 PM)
I remember last time there was a very informative forum about Australia migration called globalmalaysians forum, but i can't find it now. Anyone know what happened to it?
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annielee
post Jul 25 2012, 11:02 AM

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TFN, you can do it online..(ato.gov.au)
Bank account, you can do it from MY, then transfer ur money over b4 u arrive..
Medicare ?? not sure u will be entitle to it since you are not a PR. (i might be wrong)

But my advise is to do everything when you are in Australia, since you wont be working immediately once you landed...


QUOTE(cheezzzz @ Jul 23 2012, 12:58 PM)
okay I got my W&H visa for Australia, can some of those who have been on this advice on getting Tax File Number, Opening Bank Account and Medicare stuff? x.x as I ask this I am actually doing my homework as well and googling so I'm not expecting to be spoonfed guys! Just want your advice! biggrin.gif

thanks!!

TAX:
http://www.workstay.com.au/working_holiday_tax.htm
shows how to be considered an aus res/foreign res. foreign res pays more tax.. not recommended if planning to have a more permanent job - better if temp jobs on the go
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post Aug 18 2012, 05:07 PM

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every country system is different :-)

i will advise you to read more on DIAC website before deciding to come to Australia..

in Oz, you cant work without any visa.. for Msians, we can apply for working holiday visa, work visa (usually sponsored by employer and only if your job is highly in demand) or PR.. a lot of Msian apply PR in order to work in Oz.. as WHV doesnt exist until last few 2-3 years i think..

dun ask me what is needed to apply for PR, DIAC will be a good website for you to start and research..

QUOTE(TSOM @ Aug 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
You're saying it's possible to apply for PR without having been to Australia??  rclxub.gif

why does UK not have this system??
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annielee
post Aug 22 2012, 03:07 PM

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congrats on your PR :-)
very hard to apply job if you are not in Oz yet..
wish you all the best..

QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Aug 22 2012, 02:37 PM)
For those who wish to apply for OZ PR after July 2012, don't put too much hope on it. The new SkillSelect policy is really tough and time consuming. Just Google skillselect for the new changes on the immigration policy

I have gotten my PR 2 months ago. It was based on the 2011 policy, it took 5 months for the entire process(Quite fast). I applied the PR through an agent in Malaysia and went through a lot of procedures. Here's the summary of it:

IELTS + Skills Accessment (Prepare certs, employment history signed by HR or manager) + State Approval (Optional if you do not have enough points)+Lodge Visa ($$$) + Health Check + Police Clearence = PR

Total damage is Rm20k++

As the policy changed, if one wish to migrate now, either enrol in the new Expresion of interest policy, or find an employer locally and transfer you there, once u worked for 2 years + ask the employer to sponsor you a PR. Looking for a job in OZ without a PR is tough, some say its the minimum requirement for each professional job.

Now I need to look for a job and a place to stay before I travel to OZ. I have not received any job offer yet although have applied a lot online...
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:54 PM

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not to say easy, but will have some response..as they will call your Oz no and get more details..
whether will get a job or not, it will still depends on your job..

QUOTE(tatagal @ Aug 22 2012, 03:59 PM)
Bravo  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Is true that it is slightly easier to get a job if your address and phone number is in OZ. Since you get your PR approved, it means that they are still lack of experties like you in Australia. There are still chances! May I know what job are you looking for and in which part of Australia?
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post Aug 23 2012, 11:53 AM

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well, it really depends on you..how desperate you want to get ur PR, i mean u want it asap or u can wait..
and does that state is the place you want to spend your 2 years ?

borderline to me, its still sufficient.. when i applied mine few years ago (5 years ago), i also ngam ngam enough points.. and still got my PR..and i can choose which state i wanna go..

i will suggest list down the pros and cons.. between state sponsorship and PR..

QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 06:39 PM

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its funny..u pay ur agent..for their services, imo u should asked them for more info if you are in doubt..


QUOTE(mark @ Aug 24 2012, 06:36 PM)
I think I'm applying for Visa 189. But my agent says I should get a state sponsorship with that visa, apparently it'll increase my chances. I don't even know if that makes any sense. And they're charging me AUD1200 for that. Really unsure where that figure comes from.

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And regarding IELTS, I did mine in British Council Malaysia. If you register online, you get a free online course so you can get acquainted with the format. I scored an 8 (I'm a native English speaker). I did find that the test was pretty tricky though.
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annielee
post Oct 3 2012, 04:24 AM

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has been discussed thousand times..
very hard to apply if u r not in Au, they wont even consider u unless ur skill is ver niche.


QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Oct 2 2012, 10:24 PM)
Hey Guys, I have PR and moving to Victoria soon. But I plan to look for a job before leaping over like a kangaroo.

Is it really tough to look for a job outside Australia? I have not received any interviews although I've submitted a few job applicastions online. I'm in IT field by the way, I received lots job offers in SG..and none in AU..its weird right
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post Oct 4 2012, 04:40 PM

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another advise, nov - jan is sorta quiet period..
so come in feb... :-)

QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Oct 4 2012, 04:32 PM)
I guess I have no choice but submerge myself first...
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post Oct 4 2012, 05:30 PM

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well.. you have to fight with a lot of 'competitors' in Oz as well..
for casual jobs (like fast food or supermarket), the younger u r, ur hourly rate will be cheaper.. (of course the legal rate/hour)
for professional job, u need to compete with those local grads and also australian and even those who got local experience..

my advise is dont think with PR is easy to get u a job, it's just ur 1st step into the australia job market..
just be prepare..

QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ Oct 4 2012, 05:22 PM)
Since he said he has PR, wouldn't it help with job application? Just thinking out aloud, perhaps you could do simple work whilst looking for a proper job? I don't mean to be rude or condescending, but how about working at a fast food joint? It isn't that bad right?
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:51 AM

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nothing about grads..its the year end holiday.. and it will be quiet..
not much hiring as well..

QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Oct 8 2012, 01:53 AM)
Not really a good idea cause you have to compete with graduates from uni right?
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:29 AM

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its very very low chances u will get a job offer when you are still in malaysia..

QUOTE(springfall @ Oct 16 2012, 09:26 AM)
working exp in malaysia not equals to working exp for australia
-if possible, apply job in malaysia, if accepted then move over. chances of getting job straight is low (unless u have network n friends)
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