QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Feb 4 2013, 11:59 PM)
I disagree.
1. Even though M'sian are epitome of laziness, at least you don't pay 20-30% of your average salary towards tax which goes towards funding those lazy aussies in terms of unemployment benefit. And FYI their public service like hospitals are as dreadful as in M'sia. The waiting time is a killer. Secondly super annuantion (the equivalent of EPF) is very risky in that it's actually a unit trust fund where one can very well lose money. On top of that they charge exhorbitant management fees. Imagaine your EPF instead of getting 5% returns they tell you they lost money and they still charge you a $200.00 management fee. It's what the aussies are facing with super.
2. Cheap labour or not i don't know. But if you have a family to feed, mortgage to pay and bills to foot, any job would be better than no job. Imagine in Australia where you have a house mortgage to pay, children to feed, taxes to pay etc and you just bought a new mercedes (quite cheap at 60-70k) then one fine day your employer tells you they are laying you off to relocate to Asia. How would you feel? I would panic and maybe even faint! And if all other companies in Aus doing the same, you will literally live on the roadside!
3. I don't think outsourced jobs will stop unless Australians demand for lesser money which is not possible or until Australians develop skillset which makes it more valuable for the companies to operate out of Australia instead of overseas. That means 1 person in Australia must be able to do 4-5 person job elsewhere. Otherwise how to justify in terms of cost?
4. Alot of ok to do people in Malaysia (i.e. those with degrees working in respectable jobs making a decent living in M'sia) think that Australia is godsent. But unless you have a skill that Australia really needs, the chance of you getting a similar job in Australia with a similar pay is very,very slim even if you're a PR (worse if you're a foreigner). I have relatives who work in in very respectable position in Malaysia and left everything to migrate to Australia, only to find that they cannot get a similar job or pay in Australia despite sending out thousands of resume and spending almost a year to look for jobs. Ending up alot of them become croupier, petrol pump attendants, etc which pays them slightly above min pay. They live a megre existence looking at every penny they spend, something which they never do in Malaysia. And people still think they have a better life but I'm like whatever. If i have to watch every penny i spend, cook at home, cannot afford vacations, etc, I would rather be in Malaysia where I can enjoy all these benefits with money comming from my respectable job.

1. I totally agree with you on the Oz superannuation. It is meant for your retirement but somehow you may end up losing all those money if the fund that you have invested is losing money. The ironic part is that you are paying management fees to lose money. That is ridiculous. As for tax, yes, Oz is infamous for their high tax and is totally in disadvantage for someone who is not a PR/citizen as they do not enjoy the medicare facilities. It is something that you have to bear with if you want to come over to Oz. In my opinion, if you are able to get a good job, it is still worth it because of their currency value.
2) There is no such thing as cheap labor. You need to pay an arm or leg for any services. However, the commitments such as house mortgage, children to feed and etc is the same everywhere. You could also get lay off in Malaysia. You do not need to buy a car in Oz because the public transport is very comprehensive. That is something Msia would not be able to provide. Furthermore, if you become PR, your children will get certain financial assistance as well.
3) I agree with you on that as having the main workforce to be operated in Australia is definitely not cost efficient because of their high currency and expensive labor cost. However, it does not mean you would not be able to secure a job in Oz. In telco industry, most of the engineers are foreigners.
4) Most people migrate to Oz is because of the children's future education. They want to have their children to enjoy good tertiary education in the future. Not everybody can afford to send their children overseas to study if you work in Malaysia. You maybe the lucky one who got a well paid job in Malaysia, but not everyone is like that. In fact, earning in AUD gives you more spending power. If you are a gadget person, an iphone only costs you AUD700 while in Malaysia it costs you RM2000 plus. For me, working/living in Oz has indirectly forces me to have a healthy lifestyle such as frequent walking, home cooked food and plan your budget wisely. Back in Malaysia, we tend to take everything for granted. We will just drive out whenever we want without any planning.
This post has been edited by naleh33: Feb 5 2013, 08:07 AM