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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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Propernormal
post Nov 5 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 5 2013, 09:31 AM)
Well, I'm one of the person who migrate here because of offspring. I'm the generation who need to sacrifice my courier in Malaysia to prepare education route for them to walk through. Once they graduate uni, if there's opportunity for them to work in UK/USA, why not? Means i've successfully make sure they have they're own bright future.
Talk about fees, many people bother sending kids neither public or private? Public school here ain't that lousy. Depends on which suburb you're living in. I came from lousy suburb back in malaysia but i graduated with degree and i'm here. I don't see any difference. As long parents put more time and effort to their kids and pay attention on their daily life and activities. I knew many malaysian family just threw the teaching responsibilities to teachers. When shit happens, blame the teacher. Thanks to my dad for guiding me, if not, i'm a bad-ass!
Malaysia & Australia education situation is totally different. I think you definitely not married yet or not having kids yet.
Malaysia emphasize too much on academic until i found some students actually looks like a geek or bookworm. It's not wrong but just that try to be alive! Try to be active, saw some uni students from malaysia really a bookworm. The eye focus somehow irritate me....The good thing is they really good in academic.
Ozzie emphasize on curriculum more. Brainstorming on ideas and creativity. Involve more in sports. Academic wise....hmm...bit lousy especially maths. If you get 60% in malaysia exam, you can get 80% here or score As. hehe

Malaysia inflation is getting worst now. Wait and see. I spent 10 years working so hard and leave me no choice to leave. Giving 2 chance already. Hardly seen any economic revive. Thanks to our Najis administration.
Bashing Chinese, Indian, Christian or Malays who don't support them. What else they can think of? Murderers and rapist walk freely? Corruption scandals revealed still can elected become senator? PKFZ scandal walk freely?!?
I really dunno what else will reveal again. It's too much for me. Even making into hollywood movie won't have enough budget. Maybe put into drama series....
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Well Said Nemesis. rclxms.gif

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post Nov 5 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(ladyhat @ Nov 2 2013, 11:07 PM)
Nemanis bro, mind sharing which age group are u in now, early/ mid/ late 20s or 30s? I am sharing the same concerns too and why I want to migrate, in the past I was keen but still 50-50, but in the past couple of years I started becoming parents and looking at all things happening, my 50 to stay back had almost dropped to nil. But my struggle now is I am 40yo now, I am willing to forego all I have built in Msia, career, salary, status to exchange a more affordable, quality and fair education for my children, but at the same time worrying if Oz today is still as good as people who migrated many years ago claimed, reading the threads here I am a little worried. Job securing is another concern, I know I definitely won't get the same opportunity as I have here, I have lowered my own expectation and ready to switch profession. Would appreciate some feedback from people who have gone through the same struggle and some share of experience.
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Hi LadyHat,

Let me share with you of my brother's journey in a snippet:-

He applied for PR in 2007 but got it in 2012 via agent. The minute he got his PR, he resigned his job and within a month left to Sydney. He stayed with a family friend and applied for so many jobs - IT related. He went for so many interviews but was not successful. Meanwhile, he also attended a short course (must if you want to work in restaurants) so that if he does not get a job by end of DEC, at least he can start of somewhere, so he thought.

3 months went by and then suddenly, mid Dec, he got his lucky break after attending a job interview, he was offered a Managerial position but non-IT related! He started work in January 2013. His wife and kid joined him 3 months later, and within a month there, his wife got a job - IT related in a well known company! Now, they are renting an apartment, they have bought a car (very cheap there!) recently as they needed to sent their kid to a child care centre faraway from their place of stay and work. And also , started saving money so that they can buy a house in a year's time. Both my brother and his wife are in early 30's.

Well, i'm in my 40's. I'm planning to migrate too but i have got to finish my education to get a degree. So i'm working on that. I'm doing it for my child's future and for me to be happy in a place where there will be no discrimination and unfairness happening around me.

I know i'm more in a disadvantaged position than yours, but i'm still believing that i can try for PR once i have a degree in my hand. So, you should try your best if migration is what you want!
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post Nov 24 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(maxmillion @ Nov 24 2013, 08:42 AM)
Hello All,

First time poster. Long time reader. I hope to share some insight into the Australian job market having lived here basically my whole life. I think perhaps by sharing my story and observations, you all can get some learnings from it.

Allow me to briefly introduce my background. My family migrated from Malaysia to Australia (Melbourne) back in the 1980’s when I was about 6 (we obtained PR). I spent my whole life growing up in Australia, though I have retained my Malaysian citizenship as I hope to come back to Malaysia one day (but that is best left for another thread of Malaysians who want to come home). For all intents and purposes however, I am more or less Australian (Malaysian however by choice and identity). 

My dad, a qualified electrical engineer struggled to get a job here. He was making $300k p.a. back in the late 80’s, but gave it all up for us (his children) to come to Australia. And for that I am eternally grateful. He applied for every job under the sun when he got here, including that as a simple tram driver. But after two years of trying, he had to leave us and come home to KL to not be a financial burden on the family and start generating income so that we could survive here. Again, I can never repay this emotional debt. He travelled back and forth between Australia and KL until he retired in 2005. I basically grew up without a dad during my teenage years, but I tried to spend as much summers with him as I could. It was very tough on him to be away from his family all these years – tough on us all.

My mother on the other hand had somewhat more luck. She was a math teacher at Taylor’s College in KL. She managed to get a job with Taylor’s college here in Melbourne as the Principal in KL wrote her a sterling recommendation. She taught until she was 67 (two years post the mandatory retirement age) 

As for me, I went to high school and university in Melbourne (and eventually the US too), and became a business consultant. Throughout my time at university, I have seen many Malaysians try and stay after studying. Out of the hundreds of Malaysians I befriended, only one girl managed to successfully get a job here after studying. Her sole point of differentiation? She basically spoke like an Australian. When she came here at 18 to study at Uni, she made it a point to associate with the locals only and to lose her accent. Truth be told when I first spoke with her, I didn't even know she was Malaysian, she had absolutely no accent. What’s the lesson? People like people like themselves. Australian’s want to hire Australian’s (don’t confuse this with skin colour). Hiring is more than just finding someone who can get the job done, the market is that competitive that a lot of people can get the job done. It’s about hiring someone who they can have a beer with at the end of the day, that can talk about cricket and footy (no, not Man U v Arsenal, I am talking about bulldogs v freo). All Asians face this cultural barrier. Start learning about Aussie sports and slang and throw that into the conversation. One of my key development goals my boss and I agreed to, was to get into Australian Football because the clients loved talking about it.

Lesson 2. I kept my anglicized Chinese name for a very long time – even into the first 2 years of my working career. When I switched companies, I decided adopt an English Alias. Why? The Aussies could never remember my name! If someone can’t remember your name, how can they address you besides the Asian guy, or even at all? Now I am guilty of this as well. I will remember an English name far easier than I will remember a Chinese name. It is not because the people here are racist. It is because the people here grew up learning English and hence English names are easier to remember. To you an Eng Dih is probably easier to remember than an Eddy. But to us, an Eddy is easier to remember and pronounce than Eng Dih. If you apply for jobs, use an English alias. It is not illegal to do so. Remember lesson one, they want to hire people like them. Being Malaysian, is not a point of differentiation that will get you in.

Lesson 3. People anchor to known quantities. If you are an accountant, people know a PwC, but they wont know Wong, Mohammed and Co. Point is, if you come here make sure you highlight brands. Also, overseas work experience, except for that gained in say Europe or America, is generally looked down upon. Just as Malaysian companies will prefer someone with local experience. No different here. You are at a distinct disadvantage if all you have is Malaysian experience. Emphasize brands and international experience if you have it.

Apologies for the long post. Hoping those lessons will give you some insight into working in Australia. I am happy to answer questions.

Max
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Thank you Max. Very insightful info. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 8 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(maxmillion @ Dec 8 2013, 07:45 AM)
Don't know if any of you here are following the forum I posted a link to a while back.

But here is a thread that might be somewhat relevant

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2192167
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Thanks Max.
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post Jan 31 2014, 10:01 AM

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Hi There,

Can anyone advise on this:

If my brother helps to sponsor for my PR, would I be able to sponsor my son for his PR too?

Thanks

This post has been edited by Propernormal: Jan 31 2014, 03:44 PM
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post Feb 4 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(snoopdog17 @ Feb 1 2014, 08:37 PM)
I believe you have to be a pr too before u r able to sponsor your son. So get that 1st....then only look into sponsoring your son. Immigration rules change fast.
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post Feb 4 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Feb 3 2014, 10:53 PM)
No you cannot.
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Why? Can you kindly explain.
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post Feb 4 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 4 2014, 12:00 PM)
I assume that when you say "my brother helps to sponsor for my PR", you are using the Remaining Relative visa (subclass 115) pathway, as the usual pathways (189 et al) no longer take family into consideration.

Remaining Relative visa (subclass 115) visa holders CANNOT sponsor anyone to migrate to Australia.

Have a look at the "What this visa lets you do" section (under the "Visa Holders" tab) of the Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) page and compare it with the Remaining Relative visa (subclass 115).
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Thank you Haya. Greatly appreciate this guidance.
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post Feb 23 2014, 08:39 PM

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Anyone here has used agent from AUSASIA Migration?
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post Apr 10 2015, 11:28 AM

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Hi All,

Can you pls give me some advice:-

I am not able to migrate to Australia as I lack the points for visa application. So , I wish to plan ahead so that my son could migrate in the future.

Problem is he is 18 this year and both of us are not sure what he should study for degree next year. I cant afford to send him to Australia for his degree, which means we need to decide what area he needs to study for his undergraduate to ensure he will qualify to apply for PR in the future.

1. Does it matter where he studies here in Malaysia?

2. If the university he studies does not confer any foreign university degree but just local degree of the university, would that jeorpadise his chances of it being recognized as suitable qualification in Australia?

3. Any suggestion which area of studies that my son should pursue in order to increase his chances of getting his PR in the future?

4. Is it a good idea to meet up a Migration Agent like Auslife at Mont Kiara and ask them advice for all the above questions?

I'm sorry if this a wrong place to ask but if anyone could share their words of wisdom as to how shall I prepare for my son so that he could get PR in the future and migrate overseas?

Thank you so much.

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post Apr 13 2015, 11:56 PM

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Dear All,

Thank you for your kind input. I will take your advise and decide carefully. Just wish to give my son a good future , that's all. Thanks again.

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