Yeah Malaysia, that is where arguable most want to get out from.

Yeah, Australia know that fact very well. Thus,it is important the govt to fix the budget hole etc at the moment with the right measure. Weather it will be fruitful fix for everything in long run by reducing their vast asset or privatized it via Liberal party method, time will tell.

Australia integration to ASEAN is inevitable.

How about Malaysia, do you know the economy still run on O&G at depleting state and most bright talents being poach over to other country because of the low pay by National oil company? IE Middle east. ? Did your Uncle Najib tell you the country have more deficit in coming years? Do you know your EPF is making less return YoY and how about those white elephant projects?

Not forgetting the aging population of Malaysia...where is the welfare and safety net money that was promised? the generous BRIM? RM1.36/day?

Even Australia is developed country by status, it still have potential to build itself a better nation. While Malaysia, where are we going? A painted illustration of Malaysia in wawasan 2020 with everything also so high income, high expenses, high maintenance? Is it sustainable for your old age??

have you well known of the 2 small island situation before telling me to go opt there?

Local SG outcry of the high inflation cost,living cost,while HK, mass migration from mainland...even their own HK citizen paving to get out to "greener pasture" after their right loss to mainland and the uncivil matter arise.

cost for a landed in SG already 22 Mil... HK? 230 mil..at-least. Pay till die? here Australia, property priced at 400k and you still can get a decent good job.

Australia still have their tourism. their science & tech where they could tap on similar to USA and vast reserve of resource yet to be open. In general, the industry here are more diverse but skill not that high yet. Every corner there is little thing you can cross over/similar experience with your skill if its right fit for the job and still earn decent money from it.empire23 correct me.

Aging population also need medical care...3rd party services..what not? there is still room to improve. The medical research too getting well boost from govt.

In Australia, the limit is you to set. If you wish to further, its your call. In Malaysia, the factor into where you could go depend on your age. If you are on the 40s, im sure you wont want to start from 0 due to your status etc or how your counterpart perceive you.

Here, no one cares, as long you you are happy then that you lived with.

You couldn't be more wrong

i wish to add that while the cost of living in australia is high, you also have to take into consideration the wages. i find that one's purchasing power is probably higher even in a capital city in australia as compared to KL

It is very scary, reading all of this. No job security, and then long unemployment queues.  Maybe no point in buying house, having children etc.  Have to move city to city, country to country to cari makan.

Nah I always have a backup plan.

Generally I've only aimed to finish my 5 to 7 years in the resource industry here because, everyone knows that good times don't last forever.

I'll stay here till the LNG projects have finished and oil prices have recovered. Then back to Malaysia I go as an expat on an Aussie passport, paid angmoh wages to live in my own damned country.

Either that I could go back to driving a cab

My Malaysian friends earn 3k can get gym membership, eat out everyday, buy ipong, keluar erry week. If liddat I think they kens survive fine. Not even I have that level of luxury haha.

The only one who makes muka tahi when ppl ajak go setarbucks bek in KL is me, because there ain't no farkin way I'm paying 10 linggits for kopi peng.

wadefak? Onsite when our can drinks naik harge to 1.50 dollars I beh song edi. What more nearly 5 AUD for kopi?

I just don't get kids these days with the classy eating attitude. If no marney don't eat mahal lah babi, then komplen no marney.

Australia is very backward but there's good side and $hit. Malaysia is a great country but happens that the shitty government mismanage and is sucks or else we're a great nation already!
Australia is like abang adik with Malaysia government but the good thing is if you speak out and screw the government, at least they'll scared of ye.
Talk about working experience. They don't really give a shit on your Malaysia experience. They wanna know what's your Ozzie experience is and offer you junior post. It's not racist or sort of but it's about adapting the local working culture.
For instance i used to build skyscrapers in KL but end up here building small houses. Yeah, small house. When i showed my past project to my colleague, they just dropping their jaw and asking why am i here. Children and family mate.....it's all about that. One of the generation have to sacrifice their career for their future though.
Australia is not doing good now....Malaysia is not doing good as well....anyway, good luck to everyone who wanna jump over here.

Yes, the future is very bright in SG, China and HK. So is the education.
Question is, are you willing to sacrifice your entire life to yr job? 8am - 2am, weekends. If in sales, karaoke, partying with clients, weekends, weekdays. No time for family. If in backoffice, then work, work til very late. No time for family.
As for education, yes undoubtedly it is of high standard, question is willing to drill yr child to endless tuition, stress? Do you want yr children just to excel in academics and not sports as well? If they cannot perform academically what are their options in SG, China and HK?

To each their own.

Many have been burnt out. That is one of the many reasons why ppl choose to give away their career and settle down here.

Before calling Australia backward. Does Malaysia accept  foreign experience??? Last year, someone in this forum  told me don't even bother to "come back" cause Malaysian employers don't accept foreign experience. The person also whined and complained that OZ not accepting Malaysian experience.

If the canal plans take root and complete without a hitch, we will see a major economic transformation in the SEA landscape.

Our ports as well in SG will be badly affected. This in turn will have a major impact on the local economies.

Well, check on construction industry mate. Check on what's the statistic you got.
Yes, here work 8-5pm and account close by itself.

I tend to agree on the skilled labor, but for sure skilled labor will move over to thailand, with the backing of china on this project i doubt they would have any issues attracting skilled labor .

Skilled or not skilled go where they are needed not the other way around

Not really. My dad told me that they're doing the same job, same thing everyday which exactly what local is doing. Why appointing them?
The reason is about the standard and skills in management which is different. That's 20 years ago.
Now it's far less appointing expat to Malaysia now as Malaysian has many more talented people working back home but for how long?
Mostly migrated and serving elsewhere for better pay and lifestyle. Unless company benefit is good and have a good career opportunity.

As for me, i just contacted an agent who has a job opportunities to work in Myanmar as expat salary @ USD11,000/mth + relocation + accommodation allowance + transport + 2 trip air ticket
Sounds very good but has been filled in a week.

Well, still fishing.....

In Malaysia, my neighbour mostly expats in O&G. Mainly from Holland, UK, US & Oz.
All work for Shell & Schlumberger. Their pay is 3 times more than locals including relocation and allowance.
I had my childhood in a kindergarten with their kids. They always come and go like 3 years.
I always wonder is it really that bad we couldn't get the same pay as theirs?
What's so special about expat?
The answer is you need to work in 3rd world country with your skills. I'm trying to look for job in SEA from Oz company so that my PR still counts as a job transfer.

Yeap, talk about money mate. If you got a job offer by Oz company and pays you USD would you go?

Eh no wor, I'm actually going through my PR application on an agency, and this VETASSESS is not listed by my agent and what's left now for me is passing the IELTS with enough results.

Honestly speaking, I've went for IELTS once already =.=" Speaking I got 6.0 only alamak, all others I got past 7.0. The PR requirement is for all 4 Bands to be 7.0 or above.

FYI I'm applying for Subclass 189, my profession is engineering. So most probably I aim to be at WA once I get my PR in near future.

I used to study in WA a few years back, and even travelled to Perth just last March, so I have a clear idea around the places, this and that and whatnot, and also the lifestyles over there. (Yea, no nightlife stay at home -____-)

So damn true, I got this concern as well, with the shitty commodity prices nowadays.

Retrenchments are also happening here and there in WA these days. Well, the life of O&G in KL isn't any better. Slump in oil price affects globally.

But still I don't wanna give too much hoohaa about it, just take some risk and hope that by a few years ahead things will get better. Nobody knows.