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panasonic88
post Mar 19 2012, 10:15 PM

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@Jordy
Glad that you are so occupied. We need to produce enough of active income before we get money rolls money to generate more passive income biggrin.gif

I don't have any Reits atm. More on buying "expensive" brandrd stock nowadays. Lol. How about you? Mind me taking a peep at your golden eggs basket? tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 19 2012, 10:46 PM)
Pana-jie,

I thought you had AXREIT before? Or did I remember wrongly? So are you buying into bluechips now?

In my basket, I still have my AXREIT and ATRIUM. I have added AMFIRST recently. Both have been doing very well, but AMFIRST still needs some time to pick up. Well, I still have time to wait for AMFIRST to grow as there is still some potential.
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Your memory is right, but it stops back in 2008 tongue.gif

Used to own Axreit, Arreit, Qcap, sold everything because fail to see its beauty. I know I need a thick glasses tongue.gif


QUOTE(yok70 @ Mar 20 2012, 12:15 AM)
Same strategy I'm into, to diversify the industry instead of a particular reit.
I have 4 reits now. Axreit (warehouse+office), cmmt and sunreit (shopping malls), alaqar(hospital). I recently sold boustead reit (plantation) and pavreit (shopping malls) while their price moved high, however I'm ready to re-enter both of them if price moves down to my target. I am also monitoring Starreit (hotel) now, waiting for a cheaper entry price.  biggrin.gif
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thumbup.gif Thank you for sharing your Reits picks.

You have covered all sectors, can become Reits tycoon liao biggrin.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 10:13 AM

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Cherroy is right. Starreit gearing is the lowest among them all.

Attached is the M-Reits "bible", which compiled with comprehensive details. Thanks to Mospter tongue.gif




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post Mar 20 2012, 10:34 AM

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@Cherroy

I read from your post from other section, I assume you were once a landlard who collecting rentals from your (fussy) tenants, too.

Learnt that you prefer Reits, which is less hassle & prompt payment.

Just curious, are you still a landlord now? Penang properties are blooming as rapid as Damansara area isn't. hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 10:47 AM

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Haha now ppl buy property is talking about "M" (million),

"your house how many M har?"

Sigh how are we youngster going to afford it without parents support. yawn.gif

Thanks for your info.
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post Mar 20 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Mar 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
Cheeroy, may I know how this website reached a figure of 8% yield on STARREIT?

http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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My guess

Starreit twice distribution per year
4.0112 x 2 = 8.0224

Divide by current price
8.0224 / 0.930 = 8.626%

8.626% DPU has not include 10% tax yet.

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post Mar 30 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 29 2012, 10:07 PM)
CP88,

Sorry for the wrong term used. I should say my capital appreciation is 106%. I think my net profit is about 130% including dividends.
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Congratulations on the 130% profits.

My guess, your Axreit purchase date should be in 2008. tongue.gif

So what kind of "aggressive stocks" stock that you are looking at?
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post Apr 27 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(TheBestICould @ Apr 27 2012, 01:42 PM)
Dear Sifus,

take one example like amfirst announced their dps for this quarter is 4.83. i have 1 lot which equals to 1000 shares right ? how much (in money) will i be getting for the dps of 4.83 ?

thx in advance.
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RM48.30 less 10% tax = RM43.47

You are getting RM43.47 nett for every 1000 shares hold.
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post May 15 2012, 04:57 PM

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Top up more AXreit at 2.67
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post May 15 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 15 2012, 05:01 PM)
Expecting on Q1 2013 icon_rolleyes.gif
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IGB just submitted the proposal to SC few days ago.

Guess need atleast 6 months for all the paper work goes through.

Do you guys aware that by buying 6653 KASSET, you will be entitled for Capital Distribution + Special Dividend + IGB-REIT Shares?

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post May 15 2012, 08:24 PM

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Alright, after going thru the 24 pages of KrisAsset papers, here's some brieft summary I'd like to share :

Summary
~ CIMB & Hong Leong are Joint Peincipal Advisers
~ KrisAssets proposed to sell Mid Valley & Gardens Mall to IGB Real Estate Investment Trust for RM4,612.6 million
~ In return, KrisAssets will receive 3,400 million units in the IGB Reits and the balance in cash
~ The company will distribute 2,730 million of the units (Distribution-in-Specie) and Cash Distribution (Single-tier interim special dividend) proceeds to its shareholders


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A) Proposed Distribution In Specie           : RM2,730,000,000
B) Proposed Special Dividend                 : RM   15,217,000
C) Proposed Capital Reduction & Repayment    : RM1,251,773,000

A) For every 1,000 shares of KrisAsset you own
(Distribution In Specie / Market Share ) X 1000
( 2,730,000,000 / 440,432,058 ) x 1000 = 6,198 shares of IGB REIT

B) & C) added up will be around RM1,270 million aka RM2.88 per share (special divvy + capital repayment)

**Pls correct me if my calculation is wrong

~ Once the disposal completed, KrisAssets will be a company without any business or operations
~ Bursa Securities may classify it as a PN17 Company as it triggered the criteria of suspended or ceased of business / insignificant operations
~ The Board has no intention to maintain the listing status of KrisAssets
~ Will be delisted after completion of Proposed Distribution


IGB REIT
~ Mid Valley Occupancy rate: 100%
~ Gardens Mall Occupancy rate: 99.6%
~ MV Rental & Car Park Income: RM210.6 million per annum
~ GM Rental & Car Park Income: RM87.7 million per annum
~ Estimated time frame for full utilisation of proceeds from date of Proposed Listing : within 6 months

Potential of IGB REIT
~ Benefits from the potential future upside & envisaged growth
~ Enjoy stable & regular distribution
~ Appeal for those who seeks regular income distribution & long term capital appreciation
~ 100% distribution from the date of listing till 31st December 2014
~ Thereafter atleast 90% of distribution income on half-yearly basis

Side info: The KrisAsset & IGB company are run by a Tan family.

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post May 15 2012, 09:54 PM

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Assuming:

Buying Kasset at 7.40 x 1000 share = RM7400
Entitle for IGB REIT 6198 shares + RM2880 (Capital Repayment & Special Divvy)
RM7400 - RM2880 = RM4520
RM4520 / 6198 SHARE = RM0.729

Invested RM7400
Take back RM2880
Investment cost become RM4520
IGB REIT 6198 share, which means the cost is RM0.729 per share

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Next, waiting for IGB-REIT IPO price & hopefully is above that cost tongue.gif

I do have a hunch that share price will further advanced when the official announcement is out, now it depends on whether you are willing to park your money there for probably 6 months or so rolleyes.gif



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post May 15 2012, 10:02 PM

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On page 13-15, it does mention the Risk Factors, such as:

~ Delay or non-Completion of the deal (disposal & distribution)
~ Price of share may decline after the listing due to various market sentimental
~ Liquidity of the shares on Reits market may result one to hold their units for indefinite length of time
~ Proposed listing may not be granted due to various reasons

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post May 16 2012, 09:06 AM

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Aiks moppy, looks like our calculation has some variants hmm.gif

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For those who are asking me for the KrisAsset papers, here's it:


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post Jun 11 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(H86 @ Jun 11 2012, 07:37 PM)
Seems like IGB Reit is going to be list on Aug 2012
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2 months from now? Is it that soon??

I can't wait to change my Kasset share to IGB Reits biggrin.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(H86 @ Jun 11 2012, 08:44 PM)
Estimated timeframe:

Listing of IGB Reit on Mid-August 2012.

Got the info from the thick paper that i received today (i am 1 of the tiny shareholder in KASSETS).
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Thanks for the info.

I havent receive my Kasset report yet.
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 12 2012, 11:48 AM)
Is that midvalley reit ppl talking about?
Yes.
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post Jun 14 2012, 02:07 PM

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Wow congratz to Stareit shareholder.

Axreit shareholder like me also happy because today it is hitting 52-weeks high too! biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jun 22 2012, 01:20 AM)
btw, wat are the good entry reit that is still undervalued?

we know KASSET = IGB..soon..what else? hmm.gif
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Market is speculating KLCC Reits next.

You may want to buy some KLCCP while it is cheap. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ May 15 2012, 11:06 PM)
My understanding of the story:

Kasset
~Kasset is disposing MVC (mid valley city) and MVCG (mid valley city garden) for a total consideration of RM4,612.6M.
~That amount will be satisfied via 3,400M Units of IGBReit and Cash of RM1216.2M.

~From the 3,400M units, 670M units will be offered through an IPO at a later date and 2,730M units will be distributed to Kasset shareholders.
~From the RM1,216.2M and 670M units proceeds will be used to settle all outstanding debt and the balance will be distributed back to Kasset shareholders via cap repayment or dividend.

~From the 670M IPO, 201M units to M'sian public and employees while the remaining 469M to institutional investors.

~By the completion bond redemption, cancellation of treasury shares and liabilities settlement, Kasset will have 520,997,000Shares.

2,730,000,000 / 520,997,000 = 5.24.
Each Kasset will give u 5.24 IGBReit.

Kasset will have a total cash of 1,212.559M + 670M (IPO) = 1,812.559M cash
From there, the distributable sum is 1,266.990M.

1,266,990,000 / 520,997,000 = RM2.43 per share.

Therefore:
Buying 1k of Kasset today would have cost you RM7,400.
You will get back RM2,430 cash + 5,240 IGBReit.

(RM7400-RM2430)/5,240=RM0.948 per unit of IGBReit
Theoretical IPO Price is RM1.00. so yeah, you do get some sort of discount.
Market is super efficient...  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif that is why it never goes beyond RM7.60.. I still have so much to learn...  notworthy.gif


Considering they are valuing MVC and MVCG at 4,600M, each IGBReit should be worth around (RM4,600M / 3,400 Units) = RM1.35

Estimated Rental Income per year for MVC and MVCG are RM210.6 and RM81.7. Total is RM292.3M
RM292.3M/3,400M = RM0.0859 a year.
assuming 90% distribution, that will be RM 0.0773 DPU a year.

Cost is 0.95. DPU 0.077, Yield is : 8.1%, and nett Yield after Witholding Tax is 7.29%...

~want or not ? good or not ? i dunno.. up to u ... haha but i will buy... SPSetia Eco city is under construction (just opposite MVC & MVCG) and MRT will stop there in the future too..
~The whole thing will take approximately 6months. So, if u buy... u'll have to wait for at least 6Months before u'll see any flowers and probably another 6Months to reap any fruits smile.gif
~BTW, Kasset will be delisted when the whole exercies ends.

IGBReit
~Issued Fund Size upon listing RM3,400M. Approved Size: RM3,550M. (means they have option for pvt placement)
~Half yearly income distribution
~Gearing on listing will be 26% (limit is 50%). (I'll compare to Pav and Sunway gearing and update later)

Updated: Gearing Comparison for MReits (Jan2012)
Al-Aqar: 48.2
Boustead: 17.6
Arreit: 36.0
AmFirst: 39.8
Atrium: 24.5
Axis: 38.2
CMMT: 32.7
Hektar: 43.4
Quill: 36.4
Stareit: 11.5
Sunway: 35.0
Tower: 20.6
UOA: 38.2
Pavreit: 20.1
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IGBReit: 26%

So, IGBReit will be top 5 lowest gearing.. Stareit -> Pav -> Tower -> Atrium..
Also to consider is the occupancy rate, which is excellent and i believe most of the shops are doing ok. Anyone with knowledge of this please share.. thanks..


Added on
plz correct me if i'm wrong...
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Requoting Moppy's post.

Moppy's calculation is correct.





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