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post Jul 15 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(TheBestICould @ Jul 15 2012, 08:16 PM)
please enlighten me. let's say im entitled to receive the allotment of RI from amfirst, because im holding their shares. Do i have to pay 0.83 only from the allotment from AMFIRST or do i have to pay 0.83 + amfirst-TR curent price ?

Thx in advance.
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You have 2 choice now

1. Pay up RM0.83 and get the new shares (RI)
2. Sell off the AMfirst-TR which already in the CDS account.
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post Jul 16 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 16 2012, 05:21 PM)
4952    AHP    AMANAH HARTA TANAH PNB 
Interim Income Distribution 3.70 Sen T.E. at Trust Level 

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Is AHP consider a Reit?

If yes, looks like it is on tax exempted mode now? Will it apply to other Reits in future? hmm.gif
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Reit distribution has tax exempted can be due to realisation of capital gain registered previously, capital allowances etc.

Distribution from income of reit from rental is still subjected to 10% of witholding tax, the ruling is still the same.

It is not about tax exempted mode or not, but has its own reason.

I no study about AHP, so I do not know the 3.7 cents TE is due to whatever reason.
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post Jul 25 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(changshen @ Jul 24 2012, 10:36 PM)
what you guys think?..invest in REITS and get Income ranging from 5 to 7% or buying an Apartment or Condo and collect rental income?...of cause Apartment or Condo you may have Bad tenant but you get to Leverage using bank loans to get a higher return let's say about 5 to 7% also....which part of it may have to be paid as Bank instalment...
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It depended on individual view, and preference.

Reit
- Less hassle on dealing tenants, dealing with tenants sometimes if bad one, can be very troublesome
- liquidity, need money, can get the money as fast as 3 days
- can invest in low sum, added/reduce stake at everytime suit to one cashflow

Properties
- self manage, can do whatever on the property,
- get all the capital appreciation when selling
- investment value is not subjected to reit pricing aka market condition but directly to the property market pricing.
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post Aug 2 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 02:42 PM)
i maybe misinformed but......when investing in REITs, one is looking for recurring income rather than NAV?

Although having said that, the REIT prices do go when theres demand.

But predominantly REITs are about income?  No?

i ask this becos you mentioned UK REITs. UK is in rcession meanin returns may not be good in the next few qtrs.
Who knows how long this may be?

So has the UK REITs stock prices receeded or its it the NAV?
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Yes, reit is about recurring income and sustainable income.

Back 2008 financial crisis, there is fear of refinancing availability across (due to credit market freeze) that sending reit price plunged, as well as property valuation may drop severely due to economy recession.

As most reit under some leverage level, refinancing availability, and cost is quite important aspect to look at as well.
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post Aug 2 2012, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 2 2012, 02:49 PM)
Yes

When and IF recession occurs, property prices will drop meaning NAV will drop meaning REIT leverage will go
through the roof. This will not be good for REITs which maybe rerated in this scenario.

So it may not be a good time to go to UK REITs for the time being, no?
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NAV drop is not a major issue, but leverage or loan that matured that if cannot refinancing, means need to fire-sale the property to repay if matured without refinancing, and worst if fire-sale at wrong timing.
If happened on overseas reit during 2008 if not mistaken.


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post Aug 9 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Aug 9 2012, 02:02 PM)
Hi,

Please sifu(s) help on advice

I heard foreigner are not allowed to participate in IPO, what happen on IGB REIT IPO if the foreigner already have some KASSETS?
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Every Kassets shareholders will be granted the same allocation of IGBreit + capital repayment, disregards local or foreign.


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QUOTE(Rich_Lim @ Aug 9 2012, 12:01 PM)
Thought IPO is prioritize for KA holders only? Correct me if I'm wrong
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It is not about prioritize or not.

Every KA shareholders will be assured to be given the specific number of IGBreit + capital repayment, once the proposal completed.


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post Aug 10 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(koreali @ Aug 9 2012, 10:48 PM)
all sifus, is this mean kessets shareholder will be granted IGB reit on first day of listing in main board? if yes, then why it is better to hold Kassets for  6-9 months? given that my intention is to get IGB reit through buying the Kassets shares.
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Yes. Kassets shareholder will be given a number of share of IGBreit as in the proposal.

The next question, this I cannot answer.

Kassets will be delisted once the proposal of listing of IGBreit + capital repayment completed.

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post Aug 15 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:15 PM)
I read that from 2013 onwards all Reits will be Single Tier, is that right?
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:25 PM)
Reits tax is 10%, while ordinary share is 25%.

From 2013 onwards, the tax is factored in to our DPU aka we're on Single Tier.
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As far as I know, Reit still under witholding tax 10%.

Single Tier applied across company (even private company) from 2013 financial onwards.

Reit if give out more than 90%, they are not subjected to income tax (tax exempted), so single tier issue is not applicable in this situation.

All tax credit is not able to carry forwards (or void).
So those company with tax credit and not giving out dividend before 2013, those tax credit will cease.
Quite a big loss of minority shareholders that not subjected to tax or at lower tax bracket one.
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post Aug 15 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 15 2012, 02:20 PM)
But u  could  see Sreit gave a yield of close to 20% in Year 2009.

And yet investors were running off from them.  hmm.gif
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Axreit was at 15% yield as well.
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post Aug 15 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Aug 15 2012, 03:21 PM)
I quickly go search and see got 15% or not. Sadly it was only 6%.  tongue.gif


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Last time Axreit was giving out 14-15 cents, and price was Rm1.00 during financial crisis at its height time.

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post Aug 15 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Aug 15 2012, 03:53 PM)
i am one of the few that manage to buy @ RM1 last time.

now my ave cost is still only RM1.45
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You forgot we bought around the same time? tongue.gif

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post Aug 15 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 04:12 PM)
Old timer reunion. laugh.gif
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LOL, old uncle reunion... laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 16 2012, 11:28 AM)
Will right issues dilute earnings and exert downward pressure on the stocks?
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It depends.

Right issue normally associated with new acquisition that may boost income which to neutralise the effect of dilution. If the new acquisition indeed good in generating income, it may boost the share price or better DPU.

Also right issue may pare down the borrowing interest.

It depends how the money raised from the right issue being utilised upon.

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post Aug 17 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 17 2012, 08:49 AM)
Or also u can buy the parent company Kassets..confirm get....1000 units share get 5240 units share of IGB Reits.....the only concern the cash repayment will be latest Mar 2012.......but might be earlier biggrin.gif
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Capital repayment need to go through court process, and generally won't be too speedy one.
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post Aug 17 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Aug 17 2012, 09:41 AM)
ARREIT , amfirst , Qcapita still trading under premium.

Among these 3 :

lowest gearing = Arreit

highest yield = amfirst 

can grab some ?  hmm.gif
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Amfirst, you need to take into the account of newly right issue shares into consideration when calculating its yield. smile.gif

Not mean it is good or not good to grab some.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 17 2012, 09:38 AM)
Maybe katesamsung has some insider news.... keep encourage us to buy KASSETS
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Kassets future is totally known and clear cut now.

- Give IGBreit
- Special dividend + capital repayment
- delisted.
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post Aug 17 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 17 2012, 02:43 PM)
how do u calculate its yield now?
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Total EPS/dividend by total new number of shares.

The right issue is 3:5 means share capital has enlarged 60%.

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post Aug 17 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 17 2012, 03:37 PM)
ok my bad. I monitor like everyday.. almost heart attack see the prices come down 2-3 sens.. hehe
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LOL, heart attack when see price down 2-3 cents, means stock market is not a place to be. smile.gif
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post Aug 30 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Aug 30 2012, 11:22 AM)
for the hektar... i will got odd lot for the right issue... can i purchase extra for the right issue? if so, how?
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Yes, you can apply the excess share, but not guarantee will get or get the amount you apply.

There is extra page on the allotment form at back usually for excess share application.
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post Aug 30 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Aug 30 2012, 11:26 AM)
Cherroy: 10s. For the extra allotment, do i need pay when apply for it?
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Yes, you need banker cheque.

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