Learn the counter and strat first..get some timing sense then start working ur way up...

learn all different kind of cheese from all races then only learn those long macro games... thats my opinion if you want to get good in long term ~

wtf

i'm still stuck in plat..

me bronze , are u going to laugh at me?

cheese play will only work from bronze to low plat league.

not really dude combatex cheeses every game in pvp even though he knows his opponent is expecting him to cheese and yet got into high level of play, consider his cheese strat got back up plan also

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Aug 25 2011, 02:34 AM

not really dude i cheese pepsi on ladder~

if u r protoss~ play 10 games of 4gate everyday after 3 weeks of 4 gates u will b in diamond i ensure u~

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Aug 26 2011, 08:23 AM

how to get there as Terran? MBRT & Bunker rush for 10 games for 3 week can?

same method~ MMM

sry bro, thats only for protoss PvP.

you only need to know how to 4 gate and defend a 4 gate to get into code A in 1 month. ~Project A

4 gates n 6 gates works wonder. I was playing my typical 1v1 ladder, but I press wrongly and start as Protoss against Zerg. OMG, I have no experience at all using Protoss in 1v1 at Diamond lvl. but i just go 4 gate and won the game. 2nd game, 6 gate. won again. 6 gate all-in + FF is imba... I might get to code A very soon...

vs zerg only? try vs terran~ feel the awesomeness of 1 1 1

i totally love combatex's tutorial vids...
the way he explain his logic and decision making was jz stella...
at times u wonder why he pull off some cheese but then he explain how it forces his opponent to react the way he wants them do and make the best out of it...
then again, most of ur opponents are nt as smart as his opponent so their reaction might nt be as his opponent...

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Added on August 26, 2011, 12:57 pm4 gate PvZ? i R skeptical...
6 gate +1 all in? i think some of the gold zergs already knw the burrow timing well enuff to hold this >.<

here's my guide: -
PvP: 4gate
PvZ: 2 base turtle with robo VR
PvT: 3 gate VR allin

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 26 2011, 12:59 PM

FTFY

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Aug 26 2011, 06:28 PM

where do u find combatex's tutorial?

4 gate vs zerg is possible, but u have to do more than that before ur warp research is completed
1)pressure with 2-3 zealots (with chrono) if the zerg goes hatch 1st
2)pressure with 1 zealot and 1 stalker (chrono) otherwise (require more micro, snipe a queen with the stalker would help a lot)
these 2 tactics would probably make the zerg overproducing attack unit and low in economy, so when u follow up with a 4 gate, that would put the zerg in a very uncomfortable position which he has used to no pressure before a normal 4 gate would hit him. u would wanna stop pressuring when the zergling speed has completed, strongly advised to use this if close spawn

other than that, feint a 3-gate sentries expand and throw down the 4th gate, cancel the nexus at the last second, this can even work against even a code s player in the gsl

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Aug 27 2011, 12:19 AM

this is the guy http://www.youtube.com/user/Wasif1112

thx man

i cheese my way to gm...

2 rax marines scvs all in? lol