last time , stay at My Place Apartment near Asia Club.
My bedroom facing Asia Club
always tell my roommate "eh, pool"

bro you sure?
what is the price at your side there?

Rm12.60 per hour...1u is around RM11-12 per hour if you're member...XZ is RM15 per hour

Greeting guys

I have some love and interest for this game since I'm young, even before my kindergarten age I already start watching snooker championship games on the TV. I really have no idea why but I'm just loving it . Then my dad bought me a mini sized actual like snooker table with carpet. It even come along with a junior X-Cue . However, we moved soon after that into my uncle's house and thus, doesn't have place for me to play, been keeping under the bed since then .

Now, I'm starting to play the game as my hobby (finally working to earn some expenses since renting not cheap also ). Not a pro, not an intermediate and still considered as a beginner . Anyway, I'm pretty interested to get myself a personal cue as a start. I know it a bit rushy and ppl would have just laughed their asses off when they saw a noob with a personal cue. If I'm determined to play this game in long term, I think it is quite valueable buy actually.

I read from previous page that zhumak know some snooker supplier. Any good recommendation and the price of it?

X-cue meaning the rest or the brand?

it's always good to start out snooker with your own cue. Hard to give recommendation for a personal cue as every player develops different feel for a cue throughout the years the play this game therefore its better for you try the cue yourself..

a good line to start with is always O'Min, they have reasonably cheap and very good cues and they have a very broad range. You may even lookout for CM1 cues. It's a local brand but I assure you that their cues are made in the same factory as O'Min..

If you have the moolahs, go for O'Min Perfect range and onwards...

Oh sorry, the "thing" called rest? I thought it is called "X-Cue" after everyone saying it during snooker game, especially asking someone's help to get the rest for him/her .

Icic... different cue gives out different feel and player develop different feel for a cue after sometime... perhaps there is any guide or tips on how to find a cue that fits urself?

Hmm... where can I find shops which offering reasonable pricing for snooker cues? I have no idea about O'Min but the snooker parlour which I visit frequently now in Ipoh using CM1 cue . I'm preferring those which can detach one so easily to carry around in a case or bag . How much the expected price for O'Min Perfect range?

Yeah, I nearly forgot this method which mentioned by my fren who used to taught me some snooker tips and technique during the days I'm working in Genting and spending time off at the snooker parlour in First World Plaza . He did mentioned to sight at the object ball before hitting and that will increase the accuracy of the cue ball, but he didn't mention in a detailed manner like dvng did. So just now I tried in a few games with my frenz and yeah! My potting average and accuracy did increased a lot and shocking out my frenz with just leveling up within a day .

And now I'm trying to get the book which mentioned here... Steve Davis - Successful Snooker and Jimmy White - Snooker Masterclass .

This post has been edited by vearn27: Oct 26 2007, 04:30 AM

Someone posted this link (http://snooker.com.my/game9a49.html?cat=Snooker) few pages back then for rules and penalties for snooker game. I didn't know much in details till I read it up . There are a few rules and penalties which I doesn't understand clearly, anyone care to enlighten me up?



I guess I understand this one but I just not confident with my thoughts. Izzit this is the term for a situation when a cue ball is not being able to hit a "ball on" with a direct stroke as one or some "ball not on" obstructed in the direct stroke?



Izzit this mean the cue ball is somewhere near the pocket (hidden with corner cushion)?



I doesn't understand much regarding the situation (1), (2) and (3) mentioned here and how the foul will be incurred



This rule mean if the cue ball doesn't touch any ball after the stroke (usually we call this as "air ball" ), the next striker could ask the offender to "play again" but the cue ball will be placed back at its original place or where the cue ball rested after the stroke? So, if the striker kept on calling "play again" and the offender continuously missing on each stroke, the 4 points penalty is increment?



This rule mean that, if after a player commit a foul and caused the next player a "snookered ball" ("ball on" obstructed by "ball not on" in a direct stroke), he can choose any ball to be "ball on" and the getting the value if the ball is pocketed?



Does the (a) here mean that the player doesn't nominating a color ball as "ball on" after potting the red and stroked and the (b) mean that the player pocketing another red ball in the next stroke after pocketing a red ball (2 red balls in 2 strokes)?

What if the player pocketed more than one red ball at one stroke when the red ball is "ball on"? The points will be awarded according to the number of red ball pocketed and only can once pick a color ball as "ball on" the next stroke?

Hope someone could help me out with this confusion

yup it was posted by me bro..sorry bro but i'm too lazy to explain it out to you right now..

O'min Perfect I think starts around 600++..it is a 3/4 cue..look thru the pages and you'll see pictures of my cue too...

Tips or guide ah...well first off, you must hold the cue properly...somehow you'll feel the cue when you're trying different one...you need to get one which you feel comfortable with and it feels balance the first few moments you picked it up and feather...

my first rule of getting a cue is always to get the correct length to suit your reach and height..secondly the weight of the cue and balance..make sure the cue is well balanced...i always prefer a heavier weighted cue around 1/3 from the base...and 19 oz at least..cue tip size is rather personal but not less than 9mm unless you are a pro..other than that get a cue you feel comfortable with..a cue is a lifetime investment..never change a winning cue..look at steve Davis or Jimmy white..they have been using the same cue since they started..even if they have to change or modified the cue it will always have the same specs but still wont be same..as some pro have gotten use to the flaw of the cue and compensated with them over theyears..look at terry griffith cue..its like a fishing rod ..thin and flexible..but he is used to it and compensated in his stroke delivery..the only gifted snooker player who can play with different cue and doesnt have a favourite cue is Canadian Kirk Stevens who made 147 in the '82 B&H masters, i think with a borrowed cue..outstanding player in the 80's who is also Jimmy White other doubles partner in the Hoffmeister championship. Jimmy White regular doubles partner is his chidhood hero..the Irishman Alex 'Hurricane' Higgins..who uses a 22 oz cue..with lead inserts in the butt of the cue..

Oh well, take ur time by then

Whoops... just like what I expected for the price will be for an expensive top range equipment. I actually wonder how long a cue will last or izzit it is just like other expensive tennis and squash racket? I'm quite a tall guy (6 fts) and probably I'll prefer some heavy cue as I do love heavy tennis racket. Yeah, I viewed ur cue earlier which is a JP (John Parris) cue, rite?

Where can I view and try the range of cues offered around? Is the Cue Station at BTS offering reasonable price? I wonder if zhumak could help me get some good pricing from the suppliers he mentioned?

Never change a winning cue... well, this make me felt much more worth it to invest on a top range cue for myself

a cue will last forever or even more then 100 years if it is well taken care. by that time the wood will be stable and the hit will be superb i gurantee u!

i like my cue to be a lighter 1 bcuz i can have full control of it.

choosing a cue is a complicated thing, u nid to know about woods. materials that made a snooker/pool/carom cues shaft are usually ash wood, hard rock maple. i personally like maple shaft because it feels better and have beter feed back den ash woods. but is kinda hard finding a maple shaf snooker cue this days.
im not so knowledgedable in snooker cues lol but atleast this what i feel lar snooker is not my fav game anyway i prefer carom and pool.

the weight balance of the cue is very important but i doubt u can get a well balance cue for a cheap price. i mean if u choose an ebony but and a ash wood shaft cue the weight balance will usually tend to go backwards bcuz ebony is a very dense wood.

n hey wanna play snooker? where do u live? lets have some games.
n wanna play carom/english billiard in a snooker table? is a fun game that u can learn many things about cue ball movement and control. i gurantee u can be very good in cue ball control and path if u know how to play carom.

basicly u cant always play n think u can improve, u must know what u r doing. example when u run out 147 lol remember ur path n what u have done b4.
dun care about potting cuz potting is darn easy in snooker yes u can argue about the small pocket and big table, but u dun nid to do much with the cue ball so potting is darn easy to do. learn how the cue ball goes this will help u break clusters run cue ball from this end to another end this is very usefull. basicly carom and english billiards teach u to do that. n u can play snooker n pool easily. u cant go far by just potting the ball n be a straight shooter

n about the stroke ting, jz giv u an advise, diffrent people diffrent type of stroke, do wats comfertable for u then u will be laughing lol u dun nid to be steve davis by pausing ur stroke b4 u shoot. as long u have comitment in ur stroke u will be laughing mate

anyway pm me lar lets have a game of snooker lar, maybe if u r intrested lets play carom

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Added on October 27, 2007, 4:55 pmgo for the cue maker name bary szamboti lol or joel hereck or even dennise searing lol

haha if u seriously wan 1 get those names of pool cue.
go google it

haha ok cut the joke
ok u can buy any brand of cues aslong they r not fiberglass and graphite, my advise is stay clear from those high technology shaft such as predator 314, mezz hybrid pro 2, ob1 n so on they claim to have low deflection shaft, but i think if u r lucky when u change back to good old woody shaft cue u will sufer cuz u dunno how to compensate the deflection. other den that, other claims such as create more spin and u can pot ball more better are all bull crap, spin is created by the stroke not the shaft.



This post has been edited by LKW_717: Oct 27 2007, 04:55 PM

im addicted to snooker (still a newbie)...haha...been playing every weekdays...xD

Anyway, i have a question. Let's say the table is left with only 1 red ball, but im not able to hit it directly due to other color balls are blocking it. So, if i accidentally hit a color ball let's say black...Can my opponent still request me to play again since my cue ball already kena a color ball...? If so, can i put the cue ball back into the half-circle...?

i beg to differ bro..pause cueing is very important in improving the game...

yes he can request you to do so and yes you have to put it back into the D

unless you are a real natural player who has your own distintictive way of stroking and hitting the cue ball with a lot of success, then with or without pause cueing or whatever style you use then continue to do so. In general, the basic of the game and cue action needs to be mastered by mere mortals like us in order to improve our game..theres nothing wrong in imitating players like steve davis or jimmy white as their cueing action has proven to suceed and works to a great degree..besides all the pro if you observe carefully, all of them uses the bare simple basics of cueing..so there's no real avenue to reinvent the wheel..even pool players exhibit the same cueing basics as snooker player although they display more flair and flamboyant during the game..but basics is basics. For me, i would rather a have a solid cueing action which i can fall back to when i am not cueing well which is much more easier to trouble shoot rather than having too much variables in your cueing action.

Thanks for information and tips regarding snooker cues which u just mentioned, really do appreciate it . I haven't set my budget for the snooker cue that I'm looking for coz at this moment I still learning more about the game and researching more regarding snooker cues. jceh83 gave a roughly idea earlier where a good cue will score around RM600 or more. That's a bit too far as my initial idea was just like RM300-/+. Neway, if later in my learning about snooker cue showed that good cue scores around that price, then I'll hold on my buying and wait till I managed to collect higher budget. After all, I'm just a college student + part-time worker, really not much extra to spend on.

Yeah, I know and do understand that I wouldn't improve to anywhere by just playing more and more and more. That's why now I'm trying to read more and understand about the game. First I need to do is to find my best cueing action at the moment and practice on accuracy. Later on only move to the next level . The Steve Davis - Successful Snooker book is useful and giving a lot of great information to me. I do found out that another book, Spencer on Snooker is not bad as well.

Pause cueing indeed helped me a lot and increased my accuracy of hitting the cue ball at the point I wanted, so I wouldn't mind to make this as my habit .

I'm staying in Ipoh at the moment and only sometime back to Rawang which then I could travel around KL or PJ

whenever ur back give me a pm bro...will try my best to bring you around..

around RM300 you can go for an O'Min Millenium or Basic..a good starting point..but as soon as your game steps up you'll start to feel like changing a cue..you can try looking for the legendary CityBoy cue..not the one made by CM1 but just plain CityBoy...

I started off with a CityBoy like 6-7 years back then sold it off 2 years later then moved to to an O'Min one piece last year when I picked up snooker again and now I'm using a JP classic...

well some or many snooker players do luv to pause b4 the launch the final stroke (include steve davis), but being a carom/pool player i tend to have a rhythm stype of stroke. to me i ordy pause and aim b4 i start to stroke, the 1st few stroke is just a warm up stroke and while i found the ryhthm i will just shoot rite after that. there are some malaysian snooker player n other countries such as english players do that too.
haha i mean when im aiming the ball rhytm is very important for me, but this not apply in safety battles in pool n snooker lar.
a snooker player/instructer once tought me b4 the pause stroke, yes it improves my potting skills, but somehow i lack in cueball control, guess i suck and talent haha, so after playing for a long while n watching some of the pro players plays i learn a new type of stroke u can say the pool/ carom player type of stroke lar. n the my friend the snooker players oso do feel that that kinda stroke do suit me
and ya it improves my overal game in snooker, carom and pool
but ofcuz if u feel u can improve with it den go for it lo haha

n ya if i wanna describe how my stroke is haha i learn it n copy from a taiwan pool player cal yang chin shun is kinda cacat actually the stroke

lol then im a real natural player den. not that successfull but atleast can pot and place the cue ball and break clusters with my stroke haha. btw just joking
in my opinion the basic thing to master the game( nobody is master in the game even pro n lengends btw) is to have a good, flexible and comfertable stance, n comitment in every of ur stroke. that is why u say when we observe the pro carefully, all of them uses the bare simple basics of cueing..so there's no real avenue to reinvent the wheel.

lol dun be so humble lar, those players with diffrent kinda stroke are also mortals themself, they just find their trusty stroke is more suitable for them only

yes i agree with u that is nothing wrong to imitationg players like steve davis or jimmy white, i do imitate too haha i got that cacat, classic taiwan pool player type of stroke example yang chin shun

n u say pool player displayer more flair n flamboyant way of stroking in pool is partialy corect, they have more backswing in their stroke bcuz the nid that compare to snooker, cuz pool requires many spins in the cue ball( and carom requires even more) that is why they nid loosy grip n long stroke to genenrate much spin basicly pool is an angel game all u nid is angels angels n angels.

there are more actually about the anatomy of a snooker/pool/carom cue example joints, tip, ferrule, tapper and so much more but hey im just lazy to mention. my advise is get a cue quick actaully 300 is ok ordy lar if u just started snooker cue tend to be more cheaper den pool cues and carom cues i dunno why is that.

read more is good but remember spend more time at the table is better haha, get someone to teach u lar u will improve more, n watch more videos of the pro playing, not only snooker, watch carom and pool also, i gurantee u will learn more by doing so.
about the accuracy just do what i have say in other replies noe the angles comfetable stance and commitment in ur stroke, if u feel that pausing the stroke is good 4 ur not only ur potting skills and u must consider ur cue ball control n spins. then u will be laughing mate.

PM me if u can come to KL lets play english billiards lol is fun and it plays on a snooker table.

This post has been edited by LKW_717: Oct 28 2007, 03:11 PM

i have another question...according to this rule:

5. When the striker has a red ball as his "ball on" (legal object ball), he must cause the cue ball's first contact to be with a red ball. Failure to do so is a foul (See Penalties For Fouls)

If im aiming a red ball as my 'ball on', i must hit it with my cue ball, right...? What if i ter'miss the red ball and hit another red ball...? It's a foul oso, right?

no its not a foul but if u enter the object which is not on then its considered a fluke...and most pro would feel pretty embarrassed about that..

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