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 FORD Cars Discussion (Feel the Difference), All about Fiesta,Focus,Mondeo,Escape etc

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post Sep 7 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(BUG Auto @ Sep 7 2011, 07:50 PM)
I've been draiving ford mondeo for a year plus and so far is zero maintenance cost to me. I'm not worry of the after warranty maintenance bcoz i can easily source the spare parts from my overseas supplier and i don't intend to send back my car to SDAC for maintenance coz it'll be very costly....... ford mondeo is a car worth more than the value you paid compare to others made...... believe me you won't regret.......  ;-)
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u make me regret of not getting mondeo.. drool.gif
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post Sep 7 2011, 09:02 PM

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BTW, can i know how far u can go with ur fofi with first few full tanks, mine can oni go to 350km+- (2nd times full tank), my brother volkswagen golf also new car 1st full tank can go up to 600km...
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:11 PM

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It is a very subjective comparison. Too many variables involved; driving style & behaviour, daily traffic conditions, route taken, etc.

Distance traveled on a full tank is also another area where inaccuracies can take place because the average daily driver on the road is not going to continue driving till the car dies due to having absolutely zero fuel.

Plus, based on specs listed on VW M'sia's site, the Golf's tank capacity is approx. 55 litres (vs Fiesta's 42 litres).
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:15 PM

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fofi FC good?
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dias @ Sep 7 2011, 10:11 PM)
It is a very subjective comparison. Too many variables involved; driving style & behaviour, daily traffic conditions, route taken, etc.

Distance traveled on a full tank is also another area where inaccuracies can take place because the average daily driver on the road is not going to continue driving till the car dies due to having absolutely zero fuel.

Plus, based on specs listed on VW M'sia's site, the Golf's tank capacity is approx. 55 litres (vs Fiesta's 42 litres).
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i understand what u're trying to say bro dias, but isn't it too little that my fofi can oni travel 350km?? normally ur full tank can go up to how far?? based on the trip computer not the distance to empty after fuel up
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:47 PM

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Depends on what traffic conditions that you have been subjected to. Assuming that you always pump 3/4 tank (or 31.5 ltr), your FC would be 11.1 km/ltr which is what I would expect if significant time is spent on urban roads.

I'm driving a sedan. No trip computer. Even with a trip computer, I don't have any faith in its accuracy due to constant change in driving situations (e.g. one moment heavy jam and another moment smooth flowing traffic). I prefer to know what distance I am actually capable of rather than what I might be capable of. From there only can say whether distance is bad or not.

Being a compulsive number cruncher, I prefer to use actual data (which I am more comfortable with). There's also Fuelly down in my sig for quick reference. Just take note that while I usually fill up when the tank is 1/4 full but I might push the distance a bit more or hold back depending on how confident I can push it. Hence, my distance sometimes might be less but that correlates to less litres pumped.

Historical data I keep track using Excel. It's always based on amount pumped till full tank (first nozzle auto-release) after driving a certain distance.

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post Sep 7 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Dias @ Sep 7 2011, 10:47 PM)
Depends on what traffic conditions that you have been subjected to. Assuming that you always pump 3/4 tank (or 31.5 ltr), your FC would be 11.1 km/ltr which is what I would expect if significant time is spent on urban roads.

I'm driving a sedan. No trip computer. Even with a trip computer, I don't have any faith in its accuracy due to constant change in driving situations (e.g. one moment heavy jam and another moment smooth flowing traffic). I prefer to know what distance I am actually capable of rather than what I might be capable of. From there only can say whether distance is bad or not.

Being a compulsive number cruncher, I prefer to use actual data (which I am more comfortable with). There's also Fuelly down in my sig for quick reference. Just take note that while I usually fill up when the tank is 1/4 full but I might push the distance a bit more or hold back depending on how confident I can push it. Hence, my distance sometimes might be less but that correlates to less litres pumped.

Historical data I keep track using Excel. It's always based on amount pumped till full tank (first nozzle auto-release) after driving a certain distance.

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woa, u made a very detail report about ur fuel consumption rclxms.gif . Based on ur table, seems like esso gives u more mileage izit?

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post Sep 7 2011, 11:37 PM

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Too early to say. I usually don't include the first two fuel-ups after switching brands into my calculation (FC) as I do not want "rojak" fuel-mix to skew my results (there's a summary table that consolidates all my data into an overall view). Plus, I had favorable driving conditions on certain fuel-up periods. Hence, I need 10 readouts from Shell to get a weighted average. As it is not a controlled test, results need to be taken with a grain of salt.

- Shell data 001 is excluded due to break-in period.
- BHP data 002 is excluded due to not filling up full tank
- BHP data 003 is excluded due to effect from data 002
- Esso data 009 and 010 is excluded due to "rojak" mix (Esso + BHP)
- Shell data 021 and 022 is excluded due to "rojak" mix (Esso + Shell). Will only start with Shell data 023.

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I definitely have to redo BHP because they have introduced the Infiniti 2x formula which has different additive mix compared to the old Infiniti.

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post Sep 8 2011, 12:08 AM

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anyone here knows when the ford s-max is coming out ? i know the launched it but i dont see it on their site and wonder when is the test drive available
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post Sep 8 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(carpathia @ Sep 8 2011, 12:08 AM)
anyone here knows when the ford s-max is coming out ? i know the launched it but i dont see it on their site and wonder when is the test drive available
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Estimated Nov will reach our shore wink.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 8 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(BUG Auto @ Sep 7 2011, 07:50 PM)
I've been draiving ford mondeo for a year plus and so far is zero maintenance cost to me. I'm not worry of the after warranty maintenance bcoz i can easily source the spare parts from my overseas supplier and i don't intend to send back my car to SDAC for maintenance coz it'll be very costly....... ford mondeo is a car worth more than the value you paid compare to others made...... believe me you won't regret.......  ;-)
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any discount now? i saw the latest spec is 2.0 eco boost right? saw the price list 3 weeks ago in mid valley road show.
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post Sep 8 2011, 02:35 PM

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bro dias, u didnt try caltex??
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post Sep 8 2011, 02:58 PM

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Not yet. One self-imposed condition for the test is that I must stick to one particular brand continuously until I have collected enough data.

Plus, the nearest Caltex station isn't exactly near (along ELITE Highway near USJ Toll).
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post Sep 8 2011, 03:24 PM

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Dias, you are really light-footed and your car super efficient!! smile.gif

i am getting really awful consumption compared to yours sad.gif
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post Sep 8 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Sep 8 2011, 10:09 AM)
any discount now? i saw the latest spec is 2.0 eco boost right? saw the price list 3 weeks ago in mid valley road show.
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i think now you can get it for abt 140k otr......

yea.... 2.0 ecoboost is the latest model and price should be around 180k ~ 185k smile.gif
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Sep 8 2011, 03:24 PM)
Dias, you are really light-footed and your car super efficient!! smile.gif

i am getting really awful consumption compared to yours sad.gif
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hi alex, how much is ur fc?
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post Sep 8 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(lmj123 @ Sep 8 2011, 05:27 PM)
hi alex, how much is ur fc?
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full tank only get

500 best (when i speed up genting ironically) rclxms.gif

worst

300 kms cry.gif

current and the average

400 kms shocking.gif

total mileage 2,500kms whistling.gif
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post Sep 8 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Sep 8 2011, 05:43 PM)
full tank only get

500 best (when i speed up genting ironically)  rclxms.gif

worst

300 kms  cry.gif

current and the average

400 kms  shocking.gif

total mileage 2,500kms  whistling.gif
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wa i thought u juz get ur car recently?? so fast 2.5k mileage already?? how far u go per day?? lol
btw do u go for any checkup or service after u reach 1k??

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post Sep 8 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Sep 8 2011, 05:43 PM)
full tank only get

500 best (when i speed up genting ironically)  rclxms.gif

worst

300 kms  cry.gif

current and the average

400 kms  shocking.gif

total mileage 2,500kms  whistling.gif
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A lot of unknown variables there (e.g. urban or highway roads, how much do you need to top to full tank after driving the abovementioned distance, traffic conditions, etc).

If you usually top up to full tank after using up 3/4 bar, then you average FC (using 400km) is 12.7km per litre.

PS: A tip on improving fuel consumption. Keep an eye for opportunities to coast on your daily working route.

- Best place is when nearing toll. I usually accelerate till 140+ km/h when nearing toll and when I'm around 800 metres away, I just totally lift my foot off the accelerator pedal. If slow down too fast, just lightly tap the accelerator to gain some speed and coast again. You should be around 60 km/h by the time you have step on the brakes.

- 60 km/h is a decently safe speed to enter a curve. Again like the above, accelerate and then coast till you hit 60 km/h when you enter the curve.

- Some traffic lights are situated downhill. Just accelerate uphill and then once pass the peak, coast down till you reach the lights.

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post Sep 8 2011, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(lmj123 @ Sep 8 2011, 06:15 PM)
wa i thought u juz get ur car recently?? so fast 2.5k mileage already?? how far u go per day?? lol
btw do u go for any checkup or service after u reach 1k??
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Yea, nearly a month already i guess. haha.. nearly 100kms including racing up Genting and coasting down PD smile.gif

never yet but i'm contemplating changing my engine oil

QUOTE(Dias @ Sep 8 2011, 10:03 PM)
A lot of unknown variables there (e.g. urban or highway roads, how much do you need to top to full tank after driving the abovementioned distance, traffic conditions, etc).

If you usually top up to full tank after using up 3/4 bar, then you average FC (using 400km) is 12.7km per litre.

PS: A tip on improving fuel consumption. Keep an eye for opportunities to coast on your daily working route.

- Best place is when nearing toll. I usually accelerate till 140+ km/h when nearing toll and when I'm around 800 metres away, I just totally lift my foot off the accelerator pedal. If slow down too fast, just lightly tap the accelerator to gain some speed and coast again. You should be around 60 km/h by the time you have step on the brakes.

- 60 km/h is a decently safe speed to enter a curve. Again like the above, accelerate and then coast till you hit 60 km/h when you enter the curve.

- Some traffic lights are situated downhill. Just accelerate uphill and then once pass the peak, coast down till you reach the lights.
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12.7km/L isn't too bad right?hehe..

okok.. i shall learn from you smile.gif wake up earlier and go to work earlier tomorrow to use this technique. notworthy.gif


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