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post Aug 8 2011, 09:57 AM, updated 15y ago

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Dear all,

My dad plan to get this Hyundai Starex 11 seater... As current new model price ar 160k is really tempting with Nappa leather seat... power door.... rear view camera.... etc... but is it worth it? Any problem with the Starex...

On the other hand, i am getting him to look at Estima ACR50 06'-07' model... Price at similar 160k-170k.... of course... it is a 8 seater... please advise...
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post Aug 8 2011, 10:14 AM

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i think this thread may help u... some feedback & comment about it inside, both normal starex & grand royal

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...=alphard+starex
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post Aug 8 2011, 11:02 AM

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i can say that starex is a good car, fuel aconomy, if u drive this monster up genting u will know the power with low rpm
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post Aug 8 2011, 12:51 PM

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Just go to Hyundai sales and test drive it!
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You will have to see your need.

Starex's biggest draw is that it's a 11 seater, and a bigger interior without a significant bloat in exterior.

The fact that it runs on a turbo diesel engines mean it doesn't sacrifice performance for fuel economy, customer feedback is on average 17-18 cent/km(Diesel price@RM1.80)

New Hyundai comes with 300,000km or 5 year warranty(excluding power door, which is 2 years).
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:41 PM

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Is still a van.... Anyway, for so big cc vehicle, get the diesel engine would be better.... But then with our best standard(count from behind) diesel quality......
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:42 PM

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For people mover, diesel is the only way to go... less stress on engine, cheap fuel and cheap maintenance (less electronics than petrol).
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:51 PM

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I will add kero on the diesel..... Gives more power......
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post Aug 9 2011, 08:59 AM

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What u mean add kero on diesel?
Put in Gasoline to the Diesel, mix it?
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post Aug 9 2011, 09:17 AM

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Kero is the fuel used in aeroplanes.....
Yeah, mix it at 1l over 20l..... Should give you some improvements.... Add petrol means you are looking for trouble.....
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post Aug 9 2011, 10:42 AM

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post Aug 9 2011, 12:30 PM

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If you're looking for extra 20~30% of power, install a tuning chip rather than adding other fuel into diesel.

Tried mixing diesel with other fuel, improvement = less smoke. Cons = High FC. tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 12:46 PM

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That's when you don't know how to mix.... There's certain ratio to get it right..... Simply mix will result to bad results....
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why not you enlighten us with the right ratio and the mileage figure you've manage to achieve before and after mixing.

In North America, kerosene is added into diesel as an anti-freeze during winter time. The colder the place, the higher amount of kerosene mixed into the diesel to prevent the parafin in diesel from solidify/clouding. Some part of canada gets diesel with up to 50% kerosene mixed (rclxub.gif). A lot of them applauded the power figure but none of them is impressed with the fuel economy.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:28 PM

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That's why i said 1l/20l.... Never read properly or just want to troll?
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how about the mileage figure you've manage to achieve before and after mixing.

never read properly or never intend to read properly before reply?
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post Aug 9 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 8 2011, 07:42 PM)
For people mover, diesel is the only way to go... less stress on engine, cheap fuel and cheap maintenance (less electronics than petrol).
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Isn't Diesel engine is a very high pressure engine ? How come less stress?..... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 9 2011, 05:03 PM)
how about the mileage figure you've manage to achieve before and after mixing.

never read properly or never intend to read properly before reply?
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Can get you extra 5km/l.... And not to mention less smoke....
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My boss going to buy Grand Royale Starex..will post some comments later..
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QUOTE(masz94 @ Aug 9 2011, 06:21 PM)
Isn't Diesel engine is a very high pressure engine ? How come less stress?.....  hmm.gif
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2.2l engine outputting 19xhp is stressed engine.
3.0 engine outputting 136hp is not / less stressed.

That is the usage of stress in engine. Diesel engine produced less heat too.

About mixing fuel with diesel, all i can say is poor fc, less smoke, same power.

For a full tank of diesel can get me at least 550km in street driving.

Mixing with petrol can only get less than 380km, same driving style and road condition.

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post Aug 10 2011, 01:10 PM

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^That's why you need to add kero...... Diesel's performance are rated by its flash point and cetane index/number....... Where petrol are very poor on these but kero are good on these.......
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test drive Starex with whole family... It not up to my initial expectation... Disappointed.. the ride basically no so stable IMO... I think if seat all then should be better la coz more heavy... the main reason now the whole family dissagree to buy the car is because of "No comfort"... seat are design too small to support the leg part... Long journey sure suffer... Anyhow... Now looking at new Alphard 08/09 220-240k... Terpaksa upgrade the budget..
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Aug 14 2011, 08:10 PM)
test drive Starex with whole family... It not up to my initial expectation... Disappointed.. the ride basically no so stable IMO... I think if seat all then should be better la coz more heavy... the main reason now the whole family dissagree to buy the car is because of "No comfort"... seat are design too small to support the leg part... Long journey sure suffer... Anyhow... Now looking at new Alphard 08/09 220-240k... Terpaksa upgrade the budget..
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im also looking for latest facelift grand starex. i thought all the rear rows moveable? even if u compromise the space between all the rear rows still small ke? i've test drove once and its good and i think its more comfortable than my uncle's alphard..
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Aug 14 2011, 08:10 PM)
test drive Starex with whole family... It not up to my initial expectation... Disappointed.. the ride basically no so stable IMO... I think if seat all then should be better la coz more heavy... the main reason now the whole family dissagree to buy the car is because of "No comfort"... seat are design too small to support the leg part... Long journey sure suffer... Anyhow... Now looking at new Alphard 08/09 220-240k... Terpaksa upgrade the budget..
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dont forget that alphard is 7 seater while starex can remove the additional seat for legroom.

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Hello..... May call me for test drive or ask me some question about the Hyundai Starex FL.. I dealing with the Hyundai cars.... My contact are 0172392780.....Tq tq tq.....
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Will I be flayed for resurrecting a dead thread? Lol

Planning to get a used year 2011 (or newer) version of this van. Any current owners still exist here?
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My friend who use to owned a startex before, his advise is skip this car as it start to give issue after 2 years of usage.
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QUOTE(jetwash @ Mar 24 2016, 02:21 PM)
Will I be flayed for resurrecting a dead thread? Lol

Planning to get a used year 2011 (or newer) version of this van. Any current owners still exist here?
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-Bought a Starex in 2010. at that time no option either this brand new Starex or 2nd hand japanese mpv.

-Until now still running good

-Current mileage 260,xxx km

-No major part change, still using the same engine, injectors, radiators and transmission, etc

-Eventhough its big, it has one of the smallest turning radius, easier to maneuver definitely tighter than my E66 and XC90

-This mpv slightly hard setting (shocks) so if you driving less than 4 people, can feels slight bumpy, but put 4 or more people with luggage really makes the mpv stable

-Has no problem using new Euro 5 diesel (infact less vibration and felt torqier)

-Just dont use petronas diesel, most probably endup with clogged diesel filter (me kena twice) or worst case clogged injector

-If possible get newer than 2011, because this earlier model, SDAC were testing water, the spec slightly basic compared to newer model

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My dad owned this van (1st generation), encounter only one major problem.
Starter circuit board terbakar. Cost to fix around 2.5k to replace the board only.

Other problems is minor one, filter clogged, screw reput, can't start due to gear not placed at P properly.

Good thing is diesel murah. Comfortable when jalan jauh/ family trip.

One more thing, the steering will vibrate when you brake at high speed 140km/h>

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QUOTE(ahcab @ Mar 30 2016, 10:40 AM)
My dad owned this van (1st generation), encounter only one major problem.
Starter circuit board terbakar. Cost to fix around 2.5k to replace the board only.

Other problems is minor one, filter clogged, screw reput, can't start due to gear not placed at P properly.

Good thing is diesel murah. Comfortable when jalan jauh/ family trip.

One more thing, the steering will vibrate when you brake at high speed 140km/h>
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- check your brake disc, mine never have steering vibration issue when breaking at any speed. Do ask the mech to check it using surface depth gauge, not just using mata n raba2.

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 11:27 AM)
- check your brake disc, mine never have steering vibration issue when breaking at any speed. Do ask the mech to check it using surface depth gauge, not just using mata n raba2.
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Good to know. How much would it cost for maintenance, yearly? Apparently there's a diesel filter that I would have to worry about too, right?

Off topic, seems that 2011/2012 even 2013 Santa Fe prices are not so bad too haha. Decisions2...
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QUOTE(jetwash @ Mar 30 2016, 04:24 PM)
Good to know. How much would it cost for maintenance, yearly? Apparently there's a diesel filter that I would have to worry about too, right?

Off topic, seems that 2011/2012 even 2013 Santa Fe prices are not so bad too haha. Decisions2...
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-My car no longer covered by warranty ( I technically void the warranty after 15,000km when I decided to send it to my personal mech rather than to hyundai A.S.C)

-maintenance depend on your mileage

-do oil change n oil filter on 5,000km (ish) sometime slightly higher and I just use semi-syn (7 liter)

-DPF (diesel filter) around rm100, they recommend every 10,000km, I personally extend it to 15,000km ( 1 time every 3 engine oil change)

-@200,000km I did change all the shocks (start to have small leaks) and to ensure reliability, waterpump, thermostats and v belts were also replaced.

-Parts you can get cheaper, buy from mk auto/v super auto or hankook (lyn seller)

-on personal note, this vehicle is one off the hassle free vehicle I've ever own.

-one thing you need to be careful, is the car lower front lips. Its actually lower than the car ground clearance. You can easily langgar parking divider if you re not careful.

-As for Santa Fe, I never own one, they used smaller engine (2.2 crdi) but have higher torque output than Starex.

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 06:34 PM)
-My car no longer covered by warranty ( I technically void the warranty after 15,000km when I decided to send it to my personal mech rather than to hyundai A.S.C)

-maintenance depend on your mileage

-do oil change n oil filter on 5,000km (ish) sometime slightly higher and I just use semi-syn (7 liter)

-DPF (diesel filter) around rm100, they recommend every 10,000km, I personally extend it to 15,000km ( 1 time every 3 engine oil change)
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Which semi syn HDEO are you using?
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 30 2016, 06:39 PM)
Which semi syn HDEO are you using?
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I used bizol, if not mistaken the labelled in yellow colored

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 06:53 PM)
I used bizol, if not mistaken the labelled in yellow colored
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Isn't 5000km drain interval too short?
Even mineral HDEO like R4X/Urania/delo also can do 10000km, not to mention your semi syn HDEO.
In USA/Canada, freight trucks even do 100,000km using premium synthetic blend HDEOs. Considering hot humid weather here in M'sia, i think cutting the OCI to a quarter ( 25,000km )should not be a problem.
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 30 2016, 07:24 PM)
Isn't 5000km drain interval too short?
Even mineral HDEO like R4X/Urania/delo  also can do 10000km, not to mention your semi syn HDEO.
In USA/Canada, freight trucks even do 100,000km using premium synthetic blend HDEOs. Considering hot humid weather here in M'sia, i think cutting the OCI to a quarter ( 25,000km )should not be a problem.
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-I'm not sure the bizol engine oil that I used can be categorized as HDEO, but it certainly can be used for starex engine

-after one of my car got engine problem and massive leaks, because the dealer says oil change interval is at 25,000km (something like that), Since then I prefer to do shorter interval engine oil change for all my cars, semi (5,000 -7,500km) fully (10,000-12,000km)






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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 08:31 PM)
-I'm not sure the bizol engine oil that I used can be categorized as HDEO, but it certainly can be used for starex engine

-after one of my car got engine problem and massive leaks, because the dealer says oil change interval is at 25,000km (something like that), Since then I prefer to do shorter interval engine oil change for all my cars, semi (5,000 -7,500km) fully (10,000-12,000km)
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What's the official Hyundai recommended service interval? Surely not 25k?

One more thing, how's the sound proofing, given that you're dealing with diesel?
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QUOTE(jetwash @ Mar 30 2016, 08:54 PM)
What's the official Hyundai recommended service interval? Surely not 25k?

One more thing, how's the sound proofing, given that you're dealing with diesel?
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-Not hyundai, the 25k service interval was bmw. As for Hyundai Starex, recommended service interval are 5,000km with fully syn oil. But I just used semi syn and kept the interval around 5,000-7,500km

-As for starex sound insulation, its not bad. You can still hear the diesel clatering slightly when idle.
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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 08:31 PM)
-I'm not sure the bizol engine oil that I used can be categorized as HDEO, but it certainly can be used for starex engine

-after one of my car got engine problem and massive leaks, because the dealer says oil change interval is at 25,000km (something like that), Since then I prefer to do shorter interval engine oil change for all my cars, semi (5,000 -7,500km) fully (10,000-12,000km)
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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 30 2016, 01:21 AM)
-Bought a Starex in 2010. at that time no option either this brand new Starex or 2nd hand japanese mpv.

-Until now still running good

-Current mileage 260,xxx km

-No major part change, still using the same engine, injectors, radiators and transmission, etc

-Eventhough its big, it has one of the smallest turning radius, easier to maneuver definitely tighter than my E66 and XC90

-This mpv slightly hard setting (shocks) so if you driving less than 4 people, can feels slight bumpy, but put 4 or more people with luggage really makes the mpv stable

-Has no problem using new Euro 5 diesel (infact less vibration and felt torqier)

-Just dont use petronas diesel, most probably endup with clogged diesel filter (me kena twice) or worst case clogged injector

-If possible get newer than 2011, because this earlier model, SDAC were testing water, the spec slightly basic compared to newer model
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what are the changes between pre-2011 and post-2011 versions apart from the grill on the 2014 versions ? also how reliable is the power doors for those premium or deluxe versions? also looking to get a used starex or a new stavic, though i prefer the earlier due to the 2.5l turbo diesel engine
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Anybody got lubang for Starex engin new/used?

Piston Jammed, engine block cracked, faulty turbo..
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QUOTE(ahcab @ Jan 4 2017, 10:32 AM)
Anybody got lubang for Starex engin new/used?

Piston Jammed, engine block cracked, faulty turbo..
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I doubt u can find used, better u buy from sc
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I doubt u can find used, better u buy from sc
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mine has head gasket problem.....leaking engine oil... sad.gif any recommend workshop in klang valley?
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Anybody got lubang for Starex engin new/used?

Piston Jammed, engine block cracked, faulty turbo..
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http://www.mudah.my/Hyundai+starex+half+cut-49898885.htm
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mine has head gasket problem.....leaking engine oil... sad.gif  any recommend workshop in klang valley?
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did you manage to get it done?
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QUOTE(dan101 @ Mar 27 2017, 06:35 PM)
already went to segambut looking for this place, but failed.
Anyway found hyundai official parts retailer in segambut,

already change halfcut engine for 3 times already, all problems. used sorento engine also problems.

some friends give me idea to put my starex in playground or modified it as aquarium. mega_shok.gif

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QUOTE(ahcab @ Mar 28 2017, 09:42 AM)
already went to segambut looking for this place, but failed.
Anyway found hyundai official parts retailer in segambut,

already change halfcut engine for 3 times already, all problems. used sorento engine also problems.

some friends give me idea to put my starex in playground or modified it as aquarium.  mega_shok.gif
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How come your starex so problematic ? Is the car having issue since you bought it (lemon car) ? Also may I know whats is you car mileage ?

Im quite surprised, I consider it one of the most reliable car and least downtime compared to my other car I currently own.

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 28 2017, 03:53 PM)
How come your starex so problematic ? Is the car having issue since you bought it (lemon car) ? Also may I know whats is you car mileage ?

Im quite surprised, I consider it one of the most reliable car and least downtime compared to my other car I currently own.
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First batch starex in Malaysia, mileage 300K already. Problems start when mileage reach 200K.
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QUOTE(ahcab @ Mar 29 2017, 11:14 AM)
First batch starex in Malaysia, mileage 300K already. Problems start when mileage reach 200K.
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Oh I see

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hi guys, any suggestion for good and reasonable priced service centre? mine is 3 years old and needs to do 50k service. Been sending to Hyundai Glenmarie but it seems their price a bit high.

 

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