I like your style and thinking. Use them while they use you. Awesome! I never let things just slide too, always find a way to sneak in a way to get some benefit out of things. Or retribution if shit is thrown my way too.

Perhaps when you made your way "up there", it's then you who can now set the terms and dictate things. WIN-WIN!

I'f I've a way to pocket even 10% of that, I'd find a way. Plus it may impress the bosses more, thus furthering your quest to top.

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This cowboy town is dead. *tumbleweeds rolling past*

Thread necro! This thread is officially a zombie. Dead before, undead now.

Dead coffeeshop.

Look at my necro-ed post. The space between that necro-post and the post before it. Dead.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Sep 18 2011, 11:22 PM

*hugs Plex*

*Tempted to transfer all his Blu-rays into Plex now. No more discs!

My understanding is that they don't know what to do with themselves when they've touched them. They're unsure whether they are "clean" for their prayers, and they are unsure, they avoid altogether.

What happens if it's wet then?

The thing here is, I don't see any reason where you can't touch a dog. If you touch one and you believe that you're "dirty" then do your absolution. A lot of the irrational fear about dog is that these Muslim have been "following" what everyone else say/think where they've been seeing and taught that dogs as "dirty" and therefore either (a) if they're tolerant, they make a pretty wide detour around the dog out of fear of being licked/touched by the dog or (b) if they're hardcore brainwashed, they chase it away by throwing rocks at the poor dog, or worse, beat them/torture them. The fact of the matter is, they're been brought up by their peers/parents/surrounding elements to be ingrained in their mind that dogs = dirty, therefore avoid/chase away/beat it with a stick. They do not realize that their state of dirtiness after having touched the dog can be cleaned by absolution process called "samak". Because of either they DONt KNOW HOW to perform the "samak" or wanted to avoid the hassle of performing the "samak"every single time a dog comes close/unsure of their cleanliness when it's time to perform their prayers, they automatically lump it all into the "don't know, just avoid/chase it away/beat it with a stick" mentality.

Fact of the matter is, the steward of their religion Islam, the Arabs themselves, have dogs as pets. Once it's time to perform prayers, the Arabs are confident enough in their ability to perform their absolution/ "samak" to believe that they are clean to face God during prayers. Unlike Malaysian Muslims.

But hey, don't look at me for any more confirming answers, dear xtreme~~. Heck, I may be the wrong person to answer your query, but I'm just giving my point of view. I'm at the crossroad, a juncture in my life where I don't hold much faith in the religion I'm born into.

Inward thinking people are like these. They are more worried about their own interpretation of what is clean, what is not, than the broader picture of compassion and taking care/consideration of others. Their supposed good deeds are immediately nullified by their rage and anger towards others. No point also prayers 5 times a day, if your good deeds intention of praying is not balanced equally by other worldly deeds, instead their good good deeds now nullified by the hatred they sow in their heart for one another.

Your friend may not be a Muslim, but he is a decent human being. These "future teachers" may be Muslim by faith, but they only practice their faith by they need to show others that they are faithful, i.e. doing their prayers, but their outward outlook as a human being is poor.

What your Muslim friends should do is gather their thoughts, explain it to you calmly with regards of their situation, and do the ablution/samak. That way, they'd be gaining respect and I believe you'd be intrigued on what their practice is with regard to cleansing the bathrooms. Your Muslim friends are only tolerant among their Muslim peers only, not with others of other faith. The nonsense in the Middle East is the result of these lack of tolerance.

Funny how they are more concerned with their own supposed "cleanliness" than what's more important, good show of understanding among others who view their religion. I thought every Muslim wanna project the image of moderation, tolerance and understanding. I don't see any here. All I see is inward thinking and selfishness.

Would God accept their prayers less if they did not cleanse/samak the bathroom cleaner, rather than saving another life, even if it is a dog? Think about it. They're more concerned inwardly about their own practice of faith than saving a life. Made in Malaysia, folks!

Read that Facebook link you gave, extreme. "Milo Tabur", "Tepak Sireh" and "Sharizan And RAzak" is your typical inward thinking, ignorant Muslim I've highlighted earlier, the most level headed guy is that "Mohamad Faiz Damanhuri". The rest are simply bystanders who will take stance once they know where the majority goes. Your typical composition of Malaysians.

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Read that Facebook link you gave, extreme. "Milo Tabur", "Tepak Sireh" and "Sharizan And RAzak" is your typical inward thinking, ignorant Muslim I've highlighted earlier, the most level headed guy is that "Mohamad Faiz Damanhuri". The rest are simply bystanders who will take stance once they know where the majority goes. Your typical composition of Malaysians.

As for your "Ketua Blok", he's ignorant as well. He falls into that category of "I don't know so I automatically lump it into can't do/ can't touch category". Read the points about dogs brought up earlier. He just don't wanna deal with it, so he automatically says it is haram. Your typical clueless Muslim.

And yet they make such a huge furor over the sanctity and cleanliness of their bathroom. Ironic isn't it? If I were them, I'd be ashamed that I push and shout for things like these, when they don't even cover the basic like pray 5 times a day. What's even more embarrassing, that you a non-Muslim, notice it. Hypocritical isn't it?

This is why I say Malaysian Muslims these days practice their faith, by having it being seen by others that they are doing it(5 times prayer, fasting, etc) so that they don't get called "black sheeps" or demonized by others, rather than doing it because they understand why they're doing it and the reason behind it. Even those who does it "so that they don't go to Hell" does it for the wrong reason. Coz they do it "so that they don't go to Hell", not because they want to get closer to God or gain His infinite compassion.


You're doing it wrong.

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Added on September 24, 2011, 7:21 amYou guys chose him well then. Pretty level headed in that FB group.

I feel you on the part where it won't be the end of it. It's typical Malay to keep things boiling and keep vendettas when what they should do, as a Muslim, is to forgive and educate. I'm guilty of that too, since I'm of that race. "Forgive and educate" only works when it's a two-way street.

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Added on September 24, 2011, 7:23 amMy advice, extreme, is be the bigger person. Show them by example. Make them malu to even retaliate. Please don't think every single one of them are like that, your "Mohamad Faiz Damanhuri" is a good example of a moderate, tolerant Muslim.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Sep 24 2011, 07:23 AM

xtreme, let's just say they take that definition haram and paste it according to their convenience. Anything that is harmful to your body is, without the need of religion to say it so, is haram. They play around the word/definition of haram coz it suits them. You don't need religion to tell you it's bad for you. But you can't have blanket statement/fatwa saying that it is haram coz, plainly said, even some of those supposedly pious folks holding "respectable" position in their religion, smoke themselves too. It'll be like telling people not to do it but you're doing it yourself.

Another example is the "kahwin empat" thing. As far as I'm concerned/know, the reason behind the "kahwin empat" is to "save the womenfolk" from their poverty, misfortunes of war, and to set a good example on how Islam is compassionate towards the fairer sex.

Poverty, so that when you marry a second/third/fourth wife, you save her from the cruelty of hard life. Misfortunes of war, so that when you marry a second/third/fourth wife, you are saving her from being a widow, because during the Prophet's time, war "in the name of the religion" made a lot of widows because their husbands die in war, so marriage takes care of them and their family. Compassionate, because when you marry a second/third/fourth wife, you set an example on how you are taking the dangerous possibility of a helpless woman living off the streets so that essentially, she can be saved.

But do you see those "kahwin empat" marrying "women in need" like this? Nope. All marry coz their "little buddy down there", is asking for fresh young bodies to accompany them to bed. Nothing to do with saving anyone, more catering to their lust or libido. No wonder I've non-Muslim friends looking at polygamy as the legitimization of prostitution.

Don't even get me started about the ridiculous rule of imposed on women in Middle East. Black Ninjas anyone?

I'll take that as a compliment. Probably coz I question things in my life, not gladly accept them without reason.

Save your RM14-19 (depending on which version of the movie you're watching), the movie's censored to bits.

Even if they're questioning you on the reasoning of age-old entrenched dogmas? To me questioning leads to understanding. I'd rather think that if a system of belief is beheld by many followers, it should be confident enough to be put under scrutiny. The moment people stops questioning and only continues to follow without asking why, is the day they turn to mindless drones.

extreme, your point number iv is the perfect example of selective implementation of rules to suit people. Which believe it or not, happens inside religions as well. And they wrap it under the guise of upholding the sanctity of their faith. I like your line of thoughts too, you keep questioning them. That way, you are actively seeking for answers instead of accepting things, or worse, "quoting Scriptures" to suit your needs/validifying your claims.

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I'll continue asking the Whys coz those who asks the Whys get the sexiest looking chicks. Don't believe me? Ask the Merovingian.

It could've all been avoidable and not brought up as a religious issue if your Muslim colleagues KNOW the prerequisites on how to deal with such issue, instead of lumping it into the "haram" category straight away, thus instilling the unnecessary "fear". I don't see much fuss when people clean themselves up after working day and night at the paddy field covered with mud (who knows what animal shits in that mud?), why make a big fuss when it comes to this?

Women in Saudi Arabia will be allowed to vote, king says.

http://on.cnn.com/ns4CaO

Me: Welcome to the Women Suffrage 1893, you Arab barbarians!

Ladies and gentlemen of the Muslim faith, I give you the caretaker/steward of your faith! Gender equality what?

That, will be my birthday present.

The next generation Kindles.



From USD79 to USD199. When is my next US trip again?