I found termite at my house staircase (picture upload 2night) so i call up a few pest control to give suggestion and quotation as i'm going to do reno shortly on september (expected) the problem is everyone have their own piece of mind


1. Termiguard : Inspected the house, claim only the staircase infested and it's on early stage, suggest using baiting system Rm1600.00 - 1 year warranty (advise to do immediately)

2. Forget d name : Call up, explain, reco me to do baiting system also, Rm1500.00 (found from newspaper) 1 year warranty (advise to do immediately)

3. Antipest : Call up, explain, reco do drilling as claim termite can come from neighbor and protection 3 years (warranty) (advise to do immediately)

4. Rentokill : call up, explain, reco DUN DO ANYTHING ! [COLOR=red] as he claim eventhou if put baiting, when i doing renovation the drilling and hacking on the wall will frighten the termite and they will run here and there and the baiting system become useless, and since i'm demolishing the staircase and do concrete and only staircase are infested, he told me only see if after reno got termite lagi go for baiting system from him then, but i worry to wait until finish reno (suggest to wait and c after reno) - did not disclose pricing

5. Stoppest : Inspected the house, also agree only staircase infested, suggested drilling right now, using Agenda chemical from Bayer corporation give 5 years warranty, he claim must do drilling, then he will free spray on the termite on staircase, he claim once he do drilling (1day can complete) then reno star working the termite will sure run around, but they will end up knocking to the chemical that has been injected to the underground and die (suggest do before reno) - RM1800.00

who to believe ?

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jul 27 2011, 03:00 PM

Why not you tell your neighbor let them do the selection

why let them make decision ? i thought it has not much thing to do with them right ? anyway i did ask my left and right, my left side is a rented unit so they dunno anything if there owner done any preventive or what, but right side already done termite drilling when they move in... so ??

i had good experience with stoppest. the termite WILL run around when you start the reno. thus bayer agenda would be your best bet if you ask me. but i am no expert!

Because you mention

3. Antipest : Call up, explain, reco do drilling as claim termite can come from neighbor and protection 3 years (warranty) (advise to do immediately)

Maybe the neighbor not aware, and better ask them fix it too. If you plan to do tiling on your ground floor I suggest you use the drilling method. Also apply treatment on all the wood. Just my 2cents.

what is ur pricing for drilling ? i got quoted Rm1.8k for 5 years warranty bayer chemical for 20 x 65 house (quoted from Klang branch)


oh ic, but nth can be done, cox the neighbor is tenant only...the owner outside kl...

anymore suggestion or who ever use the above before ?

Was quoted the following (using drilling method) before
Using Bayer Premise 200Sc (5 yrs ) - RM 1,800 to RM 1,400
Using Termiticide 38.7 EC (5 yrs) - RM 1,200

If your house has termite, there could be possibility that you neighbour's may also have. If their is not treated, then those from your neighbour may migrate to yours later

It would be best if both your neighbours can termite treat together.

Wah very cheap for agenda, I engaged
rentokil using agenda2.5ec for 5 yrs not mistaken 2.5k
for 20x70 house...u may want to consider
stoppest. I checked another company, same agenda 2.2k for 2 yrs. Not sure about premise.
Beware of drilling, kena a lot of pipes...which they replaced. It comes with 2 inspection per year
with respraying if termites found.

Kelvin5717,

my price was a lot higher (3,300 incl. 5 yrs warranty and annual inspection, unlimited follow-up visits) but thats probably because they had to pump agenda around a 3,500 sqft space

what i can say is: follow ups where dealt with swiftly and usually next day after i call, very friendly - did only necessary treatments inside as i didnt want to drill inside the house. we had active termites in three doorframes. around 4 weeks after outside treatment all traces are gone. i still check - totally gone.

they did check the roof too and sprayed all the trusses just in case (with agenda i think).

all in all: worth the money due to the long lasting agenda. normally will last apparently 8 yrs (even though warranty only 5 yrs). its a lot cheaper than the anual normal pump action if compare cost p.a.

Sorry dunno why keep on uploading but cannot get the picture up, maybe size too big ? any other suggestion how i can show the picture here ? sorry newbie on image posting

Termite can come from bottom, side, and above.

Side, and above usually coming from neighbor.

Biniris Asia 03-4293 4200 Pest Control

I agreed on Rentokill, as no point you doing now which only concentrate on one area which you will remove and replaced with Concrete, and will move to other place when reno start.
What you could do now is go hardware shop and buy the termite killer which cost RM80 and spray around your staircase and area around, or could spray the whole house if not one around. This will kill those termite if they can out. You also should inform your contractor to spray those wood when they start doing reno on your staircase so that they can’t ran anyway.
During the reno, you could ask them to spray around the house / roof area to prevent termite coming, or get the termite system in place.

Don't use the termite killer got from normal hardware store for roof. Some brand are Class 2, very poison.

This post has been edited by weikee: Jul 28 2011, 02:02 PM

Agreed....that the reason I put "could spray the whole house if not one around". you will run out from the house.

http://postimage.org/image/2ot4b8z1g/

Where they hide ... (owner place the box on top and put those shelltox and liquor bottle inside to hide, i also did not check at first before buying lol )

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Opening their hide out..

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See that



OMG...

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Pening

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My staircase habis...



This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jul 29 2011, 11:20 PM

If you plan to renovate not a big deal. Better check the roof, if damage better allocate some budget.

I did talk to 1 of my neighbour that is owner, apparently they did not do any treament then i ask u are not afraid ? why dun we do together for safe side ? he said no need la already stay 5 years also no problem... Malay guy thinking

maybe your space is bigger as mine only 20 x 65, but also 100ft more ? hmm

ya i also wanna ask this... i see the just come in and look look, then knock on door frame.. and said upstair no problem.. is this a normal inspection method ? cox i worry bout the roof... hmm any suggestion ? i ask stoppest if within 5 years found how ? he say drill again i was like <-- i thought if we already move in the should use baiting or spray ?? blur la...


that is why i worried, cox 1 neighboor is tenanted i doubt he will pay for any single penny for this, another neighboor i thought got do but actually when i ask last thursday takde buat also i worried if i do along also no point, they will come from side or above = i still kena sigh...

use it before ? good ?

but if i dun do anything at all or just spray by my own i worried for future days.. cox now since i doing reno i can drill the floor which is still safe.. since outside drilling is ok, then interior near staircase also ok cox i make storeroom, behind kitchen all flooring will change also but another side of the living hall which not cover by staircase that marble flooring i'm retaining.. also worried it would look ugly but the stoppest guy assure they will patch back on similiar color which is 90% look alike.. true kah ?? cox they say my marble flooring easy to patch and match...

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Added on July 29, 2011, 11:33 pmya i ask 2 pest control guy to check during inspection they just knock on upper floor wooden door frame only.. then say no problem.. i also doubt is it so easy to check

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jul 29 2011, 11:33 PM

Kelvin5717,

when they came for inspection, they scanned the entire house all beams, frames, cabinets (even moved some) used a thermoscan to scan inside walls, ceiling and even behind tiled areas. then upstairs to inspect every beam of the roof too.

if you take stoppest and there is any reason for you to call them (i had residual activity in two frames possible because i didnt let them drill inside the house but only outside despite having three frames attacked) they swiftly came, inspected the entire ground floor sprayed where required. if not enough they can always pump more agendy through the exisitng drill holes i guess. they have been very friendly so far and getting them to come never (!) was an issue. even after they had my money

i am impressed with agenda since we didnt have to do any drilling inside the house at all and could still quickly manage the termite issue without any significant damage happening in the house due to termites. stoppest didnt have to drill anywhere inside the house and didnt destroy any door frames (even the partially infected ones). so you dont have to drill inside the house at all if you are willing to accept the death of termites at a slightly slower rate. if will use them again once the agenda is worn out (maybe after 7 years to be on the safe side). you can probably avoid drilling inside on the sides where your house is not connected to the neighbour. connecting walls will have to bite the bullet and drill inside.

Just ignore your neighbour, and do what you need to do.
your role is inform them your house got termite, caustion step shall then taken from them, because is not somehting your could do.

which stoppest that you call ? i call the 1 on selangor state and a branch manager from klang came (according to name card) he sounds not professional and just do a walk around.. i dun have those high-tech thermoscan, hmmm... u still got the contact of your stoppest guy ? maybe i use him instead of that guy from klang ? mine PMED me the contact ?? by the way how big is your house and pumping the chemical outside house still can effect / kill the termite inside the house ??? how is that possible ?? hmmm


Yalo this is what i'm going to tell them next week when i go back to my sub house for another time of measurement.... just worried it will upset them and have a enemy neighbor is gonna be worst...

You have informed them, they should not blame you for taking steps to rectify your problem.
They can and should take care of themselves.

i'll look for the contact for you . the bayer agenda kills the termite through contact. its not like it just kills the termite that touch it. its sort of passing the poison in the colony a bit like king kong ant killer lah. so once they crawl through treated soil they will pass the stuff to the others when they return home and all the termites will slowly die. pretty effective like that. normal chemical is a barrier only so if they avoid the barrier still can hit you.

my house timber flooring staircase is also infected with termites, even though not as serious as kelvin. a piece of timber strip and a few strips of side skirting were infected. i bought thermifos from hardware shops and sprayed the side skirting and infected area. so far there has been no sight of termites or any further infection. i've checked other upstairs rooms/cupboards/downstairs store room and all seems clean. i've tried to have a quick view from the manhole on the roof beams and it seems clean from the manhole (didnt climb up the beams to check each beam).

the infection started just after the 5 yrs termite infection warranty provided by the developer expired. so now, question is should i proceed with further termite infection control, possibly from stoppest (due to good service for pjusa) or should i wait until there's further infection? i have yet to repair the damage done by the termites.

appreciate your feedback on what's the appropriate measure i should take. i'm living in the house now.

PS: pjusa, appreciate it if you could give contacts for stoppest. thanks.

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Added on August 1, 2011, 11:21 amHi Kelvin,

For stoppest. the drilling is on the staircase or outdoor?


This post has been edited by jutamind: Aug 1 2011, 11:21 AM

Drilling is entire house, like 3 feet apart.

wow...that means all your floor tiles will be drilled? that's almost impossible to be done if you are staying in i guess.

Possible, just the house floor look bit odd.

how big is per drill hole? if it's few mm, possible to hide it with fillings....but any larger will be very unsightly.

I am not too sure, but definitely not few mm, maybe 15mm or 1/2 inch. Else how to insert the high pressure hose to push the chemical in.

I had this done in my house.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1918768/+120

I would say its around 30 mm wide, 1.5 to 2 feet deep.

so what is other option that other house owner who stayed in the same house which is infected with termites?

i dont think any stayed-in owner can accept their floors being punched 30mm every 3ft.

bait system, usually cost 2 to 3 time more. it kill the colony, if big colony it will kill the sub-colony.

bait system no need to punch holes? then how to bait?

For terrace house, it place near the termite area so the bait will be eaten first. Termite eat paper first, and bait usually made from paper + chemical.

[quote=phoenix69,Jul 31 2011, 12:46 AM]
You have informed them, they should not blame you for taking steps to rectify your problem.
They can and should take care of themselves.

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hopefully cox i dunwan to have unpleasant neighbor

[quote=PJusa,Jul 31 2011, 10:48 AM]
i'll look for the contact for you . the bayer agenda kills the termite through contact. its not like it just kills the termite that touch it. its sort of passing the poison in the colony a bit like king kong ant killer lah. so once they crawl through treated soil they will pass the stuff to the others when they return home and all the termites will slowly die. pretty effective like that. normal chemical is a barrier only so if they avoid the barrier still can hit you.

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Thx Pjsua ~ will get in touch with him

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Added on August 1, 2011, 11:21 am

Hi Kelvin,

For stoppest. the drilling is on the staircase or outdoor?

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nope whole house, since i doing reno is ok la i need to change the tile also but for my marble flooring at living room i have to bear with it lol, they will touch up on to similiar color as your tiles or flooring, just pandai pandai find ways to hide it lol hahhaa

[quote=jutamind,Aug 1 2011, 01:28 PM]
wow...that means all your floor tiles will be drilled? that's almost impossible to be done if you are staying in i guess.

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erm if u already move in

[quote=jutamind,Aug 1 2011, 10:38 PM]
bait system no need to punch holes? then how to bait?

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place a chemical which mix with water, it become like a gula gula kapas (hahaha from what i see) then that chemical got contain some wooden things and smell goods to them kot (like Nando's) and they come makan makan, after makan they bring back to their colony and give the queen ~ wahlah all eat and die after that

I'm using parquet flooring, so is there any risk if I store all the paper carton boxes (used for moving) for a year or two?

A bit worried now, since termite will attack paper products and I would like to keep the carton boxes as I move quite frequently.

good question, want to know also