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post Aug 4 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:13 AM)
Pickup truck straight can put a whole mattress in leh bro. kkw sure like one ma. more cushion. XD
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Making love while the gal is looking at the stars above on a clear night.. How romantic..brows.gif


Added on August 4, 2011, 1:17 am@KKW,

Buy a van lah.. Solves ur dilemma..brows.gif

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post Aug 4 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:26 AM)
yea lo..save money and yet get to make it romantic that's if he does it correctly lo. haha
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Hantam d gal kaw kaw..brows.gif

Anyone up for TT? Damn Sien lah.. Need to go out.. T.T
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post Aug 4 2011, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:32 AM)
lol. so rough meh.  shocking.gif  sm dy lo this kkw. haha
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BD also.. Tie the gal to the bar & ravage her kaw kaw.. brows.gif

TT anyone?? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 4 2011, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:42 AM)
His CKT not here. That's why the imagination ran wild.  tongue.gif
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So true cry.gif Waiting for her to come back KL.. next week.. cry.gif I cant wait any longer!!!!

Eh come la.. Join us for TT.. Probably this weekend..
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post Aug 4 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(kogula14 @ Aug 4 2011, 06:03 PM)
Hi Guys,

I just took my brand new Persona M-Line Manual yesterday and now it is 1 day old car.. smile.gif Here are some of my review and person who has this similar issue can help me to get some idea on why..

1) No knocking sound on right hand side driver side (as usually PE users complain)

2) Hissing/Rattling sound from AC (every 2 min). The situation goes like this:- I noticed that my AC is cool, and at one moment when the AC back from cold to warm air, this hissing sound will start (which last for 4 second), then the air will back to cold again. Why the AC changing from cold to warm and vice versa?  ( anybody face this issue)? And why there is hissing sound which generated during air change from warm to cold?

3) When press break, it so hard to stop the car. I feel like the break is so soft and i have to press it really hard to make the car stop if i drive fast.

4) Gear transition is hard too....

5) When i ON wiper (1-speed), i hear "tik.. tik..tik" sound but after increase more power.. (maybe 2-speed) the sound gone. Any idea?

6) Ignition light sometime keep ON during driving and sometime just ok... That really scares me.. I have read manual and it says that maybe the engine emission prob. Any body face this issue? Is it when timing high, the light will ON?

7) Finally.. my timing is really high. When change gear from 2 to 3-speed, the RPM jump from 2000 to 3000 easily.. its really high rev (initially i have checked with proton SC, they said since it is new car, the RPM usually will be high.They said will re-tune during 1000km service. Anybody face this issue?
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Ur car is still new. Actually the OEM Bosch brake pads provides quite ok bite, but only after u've driven the car for at least a week or two. Contrary to what most ppl said, the OEM brake pads needs bedding in as well. Just drive as u usually would, but be careful with the brakes a little bit. After some time it should be fine. The downside to Bosch pads is that they wear out pretty quickly & generates a lot of brake dust around ur front rims. And of course, the cost to replace it with the same Bosch pads can easily buy u another 2-3 sets of RS 550'C high performance brake pads. But other than that, it's fine.

Gear change may be slightly harder than usual due to the fact that ur car is still new. I've got a friend who owns a Saga BLM, same case. While new his gear & clutch feels firm & hard, but after some time it began to loosen up a little. Think of it as ur virgin bride spending her first night with u. Everything is gonna be tight & firm but after some time it'll loosen up. smile.gif

The wiper sound that u heard is the relay noise. At a higher speed the noise is inaudible, but at Intermittent or Speed 1 the noise is pretty obvious. This is perfectly normal & happens in all PE. It's possible to eliminate the noise totally by replacing the relay, but the solution is pretty costly & it's a no-brainer's way of spending money.

The ignition light going on & off may be a case of loose O2Sensor or loose fuel cap. Actually, the check engine light represents most, if not all of the sensors in the car from O2Sensor to crank sensor, to fuel pump sensor and even brake light switch sensor. Ur car is still new, so I assume it's still on it's 1st tank of petrol. Do the basics first; check that the petrol cap is locked tightly, and then open up ur front hood & wiggle the green cable that connects to the O2sensor to ensure that it's tight and not moving around. Then drive on for another few days. If the check engine light still comes on, drive to the nearest Proton SC to have it checked with PDT. The PDT will display the error code & the source of error that causes the warning light.

As for the knocking noise, the newer batch of PEs now comes with rubber insulation around the steering assembly pipes. But from my personal experience, the noise will come back after a few months even after the rubber insulation is installed. Just pray hard that the noise doesn't come when u're driving over uneven road. If it does, make a complain & have the SC to change the whole assembly for u F.O.C..

The air-cond hissing noise is pretty normal. That's the compressor working its' @ss off to cool the car down. Try fiddling around with the air-cond temperature setting a little bit. The hissing noise that u heard is the air cond gas being pumped in, while the 'kick' noise that u get is the compressor starting up.

For the RPM thing, check if ur idling RPM is below 1k or at exactly 1k with the air cond on. If it's any higher than that, ur RPM timing is out and this may cause ur FC to shoot up. Fret not, the RPM can be easily adjusted via the car's ECU, so u don't have to worry about anything. And as many other members here already mentioned, the CamPro engine is a high-rev engine compared to many other engines in the market right now, and the climb from 2000-4000 RPM is slightly quicker. So the RPM climb shouldn't be something that u should be worried about.

I guess that answered most, or if not all of ur questions. Happy Persona-ing, and welcome to PPLYN! smile.gif

QUOTE(OKLY @ Aug 4 2011, 06:08 PM)
For the AC part, I believe many cars behave like that, even my Vios is like that. I'm talking about the compressor turning on/off. The only difference is the compressor on certain cars cut off either faster or slower depending on the manufacturer. No compressor will be on for too long, same goes to the AC in houses.

For the brakes, perhaps the OEM equipped brake pads does not provide enough bite. If you want better braking power, consider changing your brake pads and probably convert your rear drum brakes to disc brakes instead. Also, only the H-line comes with ABS and EBD for better braking experience, the difference is huge especially the EBD when it comes to emergency/rapid braking situation.
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The compressor kicks in faster or slower depending on the AC temperature setting in the car. If it is switched to higher temperature (warmer), it kicks in less regularly. If it is switched to lower temperature (cooler), it kicks in more frequently and the compressor runs longer than usual.

It is highly recommended that the brake pump to be replaced, ABS & EBD to be added as well if the rear drum brakes were to be replaced to disc brakes. This is to ensure that the braking force is evenly distributed to all 4 wheels and also to prevent the wheels from locking up in an event of E-braking. The stock brake system & brake pads, however, is adequate for normal & everyday drives. If only the brake pump is replaced, the chances of wheels locking will be higher, and this is extremely dangerous especially if u're going downhill as a light tap on ur brake can lock ur wheels and cause skidding.

QUOTE(Sesar unjur @ Aug 4 2011, 06:10 PM)
i also a new persona owner.been driving it for 1 week now..the number 1 till 5 is same with me..but after some driving u will get use to the brake and the gear will become soft..
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U're not getting used to the brake. It's the brake burning/bedding in & getting used to ur feet. wink.gif

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Aug 4 2011, 08:37 PM)
my family old kancil using caltex havoline mineral oil since 1996 till now 2011, 15year's old and the engine never overhaul and working great till now,
i give review base on my family using havoline as lube.
but my car now stick with caltex semi syntethic
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Caltex FTW.. Finally another Caltex supporter.. Caltex Havoline is a good engine oil for PEs, but sadly till now only I myself used it. I've never heard of any other members using Havoline Fully Synthetic on their PEs here yet..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 4 2011, 10:07 PM)
wira built quality is ok,especially the dashboard surface still got rubber,so wont cause too plastic lo...tis is the advantage than persona..but the rattling sound oso a lot for my wira se lo..haiz..actuali i oso think wan buy one 2nd wira as daily working car lo..i still can remember,when the time i still drove wira,i have tested the persona and wat i feel is i can feel persona is heavier than wira alot(feel safe when sat inside lo),and stable and handling oso better than wira..tats why i decide change my wira se to persona lo..i still miss my wira se lo..since i'm oso invest a lot to it,like exhaust system,rim,semi bucket seat,iridium plug,drop in filter,change to mivec bumper and bonet,angle eyes lamp lo..
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U sure the dashboard not so plastic? Last time I took out the stock Wira dashboard trims around the aircond & HU to replace with new one that looks nicer & feels better. The moment I took it out, I 'accidentally' dropped it (on purpose actually, to test it's strength after 14 years). It dropped to the ground & literally shattered to a thousand bits. Just so brittle & fragile. The accessory shop fella told me that this happened because of Malaysian weather and also because the plastic used are of low grade. So make sure u tint ur car & cover it with a dashboard shade if u were to park under the sun for a long time to protect ur dashboard & ur interior trims.

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post Aug 4 2011, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 4 2011, 11:26 PM)
Xan,
Any review/comment on the cross drill rotors selling by EA Autoworks?
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Quite good lah, but only if u pair it with RS pads. wink.gif

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 4 2011, 11:27 PM)
the dashboard was wrap by one layer rubber,tats why i mentioned tat is not so plastic as persona lo..hehe..
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If u're driving H-line & u still feel that the dashboard is very plastic, then u obviously haven't felt the B/M-line PE dash yet. For me, I think that the PE's dashboard is already quite nice to the touch compared to the likes of the previous generation Myvi and even the Forte. Kia is smart, the Forte's dash feels nice, but only at the place that u usually touch. Try to touch the areas that u don't usually touch, like under the steering console, the middle console, the lower part of the door trim, the seat belt panel at the B-pillar. The quality of plastic they used throughout the car is uneven, and they concentrated on making the place that u commonly touch feels good & nice while everywhere else is crap. Don't believe me? Go to Kia's showroom & find out for urself. Kia had to cut costs here & there to make the Forte affordable (cheap for some), but they did it in a pretty tricky yet smart way.
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post Aug 4 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 4 2011, 11:36 PM)
Yup. I gonna pair with RS pad..
Tomorrow estimated damage would be RM 600  cry.gif
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RM 600 + poisoned with other things also.. brows.gif
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post Aug 4 2011, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(redjinx @ Aug 4 2011, 11:44 PM)
Hi..need your opinion for tinting my window..

VLT 63%
VLR 20%
UHR 99%
IRR 78%
IRE 87%

Color is black gold cos my PE is bronze..so i think will cun cun w my car color.

How to know good or bad the tinted?

For me any middle range of tint will do.

1) I prefer black and can reject almost heat from my car instantly(again,how to know this?).

2) Since my car will be left most of the time under hot all day long, which spec should i look for before done the tinting?wan to protect my dashboard  & interior as well..

Thank you
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VLT 63%? That's quite high actually.. xD If u wanna do something else in ur car, then settle for VLT below 60%.. brows.gif

VLR 20%.. This is the reflection rate.. Depends if u like ur windows to be reflective or look dark.

IRR 78%. Now.. This 1, the higher the better if u wanna protect ur dashboard & keep ur car cool. InfraRed heat Rejected. But do note that the higher this point is on ur windshield, ur SmartTag/gate remote control may not be able to work.

UHR 99%. Another important point, Ultra Violet Heat Reflected. This is important as we all know UV rays are harmful even to our skin. Can cause cancer wan lah.

VLT = The lower, the darker ur tint is. Mine is 55% VLT with 17% VLR, so it's reflective when there's light outside the car, but u can see into the car when it's dark outside. Which means during day time or under street light at night it's harder to see in the car. UHR is now at 99% for most middle to high range tint, so no worries about that. IRR higher better, but it depends what's ur priority. If u wan heat rejection only, then go as high as ur budget allows. Anything below 87% will ensure that ur SmartTag & remote control works properly from inside the car. Mine is at 85%, just nice.


Added on August 4, 2011, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 4 2011, 11:52 PM)
Lol.. that one confirm will kena poison..
Now I donno should I upgrade my brake pump first or change pad and rotors first?  hmm.gif
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Brake pump? If u're a fan of locking ur wheels then go ahead la.. smile.gif

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 4 2011, 11:53 PM)
haha.. its the addon that causes the ++ laugh.gif
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Yeap.. brows.gif

QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Aug 4 2011, 11:56 PM)
Oit. What comparison is this.  laugh.gif
RM600 for 2 rotor only?
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RM 450 for the rotor, RM 150 for the brake pads.

Correct wat. The comparison suits the situation ma. brows.gif

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post Aug 5 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 5 2011, 12:08 AM)
Now I suspect my brake pump insufficient to deliver enough pressure to brake pad..
I need tap few time only makan..  sweat.gif
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U got service ur brakes or not? Brake fluid level? Change brake fluid?
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Wah..Thread damn dead sia.. Nobody replying questions d.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(saddient @ Aug 5 2011, 01:25 AM)
emo ? icon_idea.gif
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sweat.gif when u coming back KL? Duwan join us for tt d?

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 5 2011, 01:28 AM)
xan xan.... i still with u...  brows.gif
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Sei kei Lou sweat.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Aug 5 2011, 01:42 AM)
I notice that after long driving, the aircond vent like greasy/oily. Is this normal hmm.gif

Btw, Anyone knows the rough estimation to install ABS?
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ABS only or the full set with disc brakes? New set with disc brakes, EBD & brake pump = RM 3.5k.

Ur Aircond vent greasy can be caused by the air from outside leaking in. Smoke from exhaust contains a bit of petrol, n u might have left the air cond to take in air from outside. Try to readjust the knob.. If problem still persists bring it to SC & have them to tighten the valve for u..
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:09 AM)
walau... i'm not... i 100% nature to female...  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Dav6534 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:10 AM)
lol. 100% to nature to female? @@ forest ka bro? haha
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He's trying to say his forest is very thick..brows.gif in the forest got 1 tall coconut tree with 2 coconuts on the ground..brows.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 02:18 AM

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@Jason,

Caltex dun have any loyalty card.. That's the downside of it..

Wira 1.3 magma engine lah..1.5 & above where got carburettor engine.. But I still like the 1.8.. Top speed 230km/h shocking.gif

The oem pads are perfect whether or not it's on H line or B/M line. It's adequate, but H line better cos got ABS n 4 disc brakes.

H line dashboard has got a more leathery feel to it. B/M line feels a bit rougher.
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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:36 AM)
opps...i am not sure. but my previous engine is 1.5 and on the cover it write magma in red word with black cover. i dunno much last time. hahahaha~~

i think only PE got the leathery feel. my P tak E dun have the feel lol.

yah loh. should have loyalty card. so ur car is using caltex?? it can be bought in the petrol station rite??
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Haha.. Should be the same engine as the iswara la..

Now on magnatec.. Last time Havoline.. Van be bought at petrol station, but expect Market price la..

Ur Persona H line?
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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:54 AM)
yup. H-line.
u mean magnatec can get at lower than market price but havoline cannot?
which u personally think is better??
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Havoline is a controlled brand, they usually only sell it at Caltex SCs or petrol station, while Castrol n others can be bought from supermarkets n spare part shops. More of a measure to prevent counterfeiting. I think performance wise the Havoline is much better..
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 5 2011, 08:14 AM)
How much is the price for Havoline, both semi and FS? 40 weighted wan.

I still have doubt on Magnatec. Just don't trust anything that say will stick to Piston and stay there. Coz if it will stick onto piston, it will stick onto oil passage, valve, etc. Maybe the contaminant that resides in the lube sticking to those passage as well. Short term, maybe good protection but what abt long term. Will those sticky thingy accumulate and then boom.....lube cannot get thru. Damage the pump, valve, etc....

It reminds me of Slick 50 engine treatment case but similarity ends there coz Castrol is a much bigger name and its not engine treatment addictives.
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Standard market price for semi/fully loh.. RM 109 for semi, RM 219 for fully..


Added on August 5, 2011, 8:34 amThat was about 4-5 months ago.. Not sure if market price has changed since.. Long time never check at petrol station d..


Added on August 5, 2011, 8:37 am
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 5 2011, 03:02 AM)
hmmm....nice . i will give my review after i use it smile.gif
u think is the balancing problem or my tyre going to botak problem. coz when i drive above 140, my car vibrates.
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Probably balancing problem lah.. But heck, ur tyre goin to botak d u still dare to drive so fast ka? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 5 2011, 08:54 AM)
yup,wira 1.8 4g93 engine reali powerful lo..putra,satria gti all use the same engine brows.gif but wira speed to 230kmh,quite terrible lo sweat.gif


Added on August 5, 2011, 8:55 am

personally i feel my PE soundproof was better than my wira se lo..the windsound oso a bit lesser than wira tongue.gif
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Walao.. If PE soundproof worse than Wira they wont call it Wira Replacement Model liao.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 5 2011, 09:10 AM)
Same here, sound proofing better than my ex-Wira and so is the windsound but then I'm using H-Line.

Sound proofing similar with my Honda City. The additional proofing at the roof makes a whole lot of different during rain...better than City and for that matter its better than Civic (roof proofing only). Windsound tho...although better than Wira, could not match City and way worse than Civic.
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I think PE's soundproofing, especially the H-line is very good d lah compared to most Proton models before this including the Perdana.. Of course if it's a wee bit worse than Civic, but hey, u get what u paid for.. And Proton really tried to improve their QC already..

The old City soundproof quite good, but the new Honda City soundproof sux.. Verified this by sitting in my aunt's City and then my fren's NHC.. The old City got better soundproof & wind noise reduction, but the new City wind noise really bad.. PE better..

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Aug 5 2011, 10:25 AM)
can't wait to get a hold of my new persona....i should be getting it next week..i guess im gay cos someone state here who get a chiffon green is gay..haha..this year not considering any mod because the car is new and somemore hari raya aidilfitri is coming..hari raya qurban coming this nov  and have to pay some debt.huh....
next year..im gona mod..mod..and mod and work my ass off...huh..

ps: cant focus today...im sick..and my work still pending..guess tomorrow i have to go to work..
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Gay... brows.gif Welcome to PPLYN! smile.gif

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Aug 5 2011, 11:12 AM)
biggrin.gif i sure work my ass off.. tongue.gif very hard..
ps: u guys know how much to budget if wan to change to 16 or 17inch rim with tyres? usually how much..because this will be my first car with my name on it.. rclxms.gif
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It depends heavily on ur budget, actually. If ur budget is high, u can get better tyres for maximum performance & safety, and this can go up to RM 3k for 16 inch rim + tyre or RM4k for 17 inch rim + tyre NOT INCLUDING TRADE IN. Of course, if u're thinking of changing the rims, then please do so when ur car is still new as u can get up to RM 1200 for ur stock alloy rim + tyre trade in.. For steel rims/pasu bunga, the trade in value while new may go as high as RM 800-900 depending on ur negotiation skills.

If ur budget low, then just settle for a set of nice 16 inch rims using okok tyre such as the Continental CC5 or Yokohama C-drive by trading in ur stock wheels..
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QUOTE(saw2001 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:10 PM)
Send my car to Sc. hahaha change the whole radiator for me. Hope its ok after that.
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Done already? Check the receipt printout to see what is diagnosed as the problem that caused ur overheating issue..
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 5 2011, 02:37 PM)
wei... today so diam one? what happen?
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laugh.gif All busy ma.. Where got like u..brows.gif

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 5 2011, 02:40 PM)
sweat.gif U very active in these kind of topics hor?

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