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post Jul 24 2011, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jul 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
I call this BS. If it indeed by "Performance" as you claim, i bet after 2005 Anfield would be empty, have they won anything ? yet fan stand by them through rain.. through the wind... what about Arsenal ? Chelsea have they won anything beyond domestic ? Do you call that blind support as well ? So what then for these fan they left and start being Man United now ?
Why dwells and whine about things we could not change such as FAM and all we all know nothing could change. Let's do what we can for those 11 Malaysian on the field trying at their best to make us proud. If you gave up your support because of this, then go ahead... Honestly i do not think that Harimau Malaya need support from such fan who only been there during their glory days.
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Malaysia did the Istanbul at Spore, but we were inches close before the 5th goal. Agree with ameen, it doesn't count what your favorite team has won, its the support that counts, will you ever standby them when they are through the hard times. Definitely you would not be jumping to cheer for another club when you favorite club isn't doing well?.

Well said ameen! I'm 1000% confident that we can beat Singapore by 4 goals to NIL !
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post Jul 24 2011, 11:53 PM

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Agree with ameen and sky.But i think the lack of support is due to politics affecting the national team.What the hell are politicians like khairy jamaluddin doing
on the FAM board? Should be headed by former country players not politicians.The organisation is terrible and should be revamped.just like fifa with people like sepp blatter doh.gif Only good thing that FAM did was appoint rajagobal.
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post Jul 24 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jul 24 2011, 11:53 PM)
Agree with ameen and sky.But i think the lack of support is due to politics affecting the national team.What the hell are politicians like khairy jamaluddin doing
on the FAM board? Should be headed by former country players not politicians.The organisation is terrible and should be revamped.just like fifa with people like sepp blatter doh.gif  Only good thing that FAM did was appoint rajagobal.
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Depends. See Annuar Musa and what he does to Kelantan.
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post Jul 24 2011, 11:55 PM

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GUYS i need 3 grand stand tickets for malaysia vs singapore. anyone? or can provide me links?
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QUOTE(CluelessNick @ Jul 24 2011, 11:55 PM)
GUYS i need 3 grand stand tickets for malaysia vs singapore. anyone? or can provide me links?
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it's already in the thread title bro ^^;;
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 24 2011, 11:56 PM)
it's already in the thread title bro ^^;;
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His nickname is quite suitable biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:01 AM

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hahaah but i dunno why i typed it in . page expired @_@
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 25 2011, 01:55 AM)
Depends. See Annuar Musa and what he does to Kelantan.
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Yeah, true also he did amazing job for Kelantan, not just the team itself but also for the grass root to the ARMY Academy.

That's why i've set my mind not to be influenced by things i cannot positively change. Let us do what we can instead which is supporting our national team.
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Jul 24 2011, 11:09 PM)
First of all, other than Msia, why do you all support your favourite teams/clubs in other countries like Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool/Barca/R.Madrid/Milan etc?
Why do you see more reds or blues in the stadium in the last 2 weeks than yellows-black?
There's only 1 reason - they can perform.

We are born Msians by birth. That's fair. And you guys also support your favourite teams, by choice. That's also fair. The English, the Dutch, Portuguese as well as French have garnered the supports from their nationals and also won their fans' respects because they know their players can perform.

The Indians and Pakistanis also win the respects from their supporters and fellow countrymen, not in gymnastics, not in football/soccer, but in crickets and hockey because they are proud of their achievements and performance in these sports.

So do the Chinese. Yao Ming, their icon in basketball. Their gymnasts, their badminton star Lin Dan and so on. Because they know their supports will be rewarded and answered by world class performances at the world stages. Now, do you expect to see Chinese cricket fans showing support in amateur cricket match? Hardly.

Football is the most popular sport in the world. Yet we hardly see much supports shown by Chinese and Indians. That's because they know that even with 2.5 billion populations, they can hardly find 11 dudes that can kick the ball straight.

Back to Msia. While supports are very important in crucial matches like World Cup qualifier against arch-rivals Singapore, do you expect all Msians to show blind supports to the teams who have repeatedly disappointed their fans in so many years? Football is a popular sport in Msia even before Msia Independence. We saw our past achievements quickly and quietly become the dusts in the history of Msian football, with nothing much to show since then. We feel proud, sad, disappointed at some points. We celebrate, cry, condemn. But in our hearts, we know that we are always, and forever be Msians. We prayed for victories. But what can we do other than that?

The dictators in FAM have been at helm for far too long. Nothing much have changed. Do you expect the footballers to follow suits?
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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jul 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
I call this BS. If it indeed by "Performance" as you claim, i bet after 2005 Anfield would be empty, have they won anything ? yet fan stand by them through rain.. through the wind... what about Arsenal ? Chelsea have they won anything beyond domestic ? Do you call that blind support as well ? So what then for these fan they left and start being Man United now ?
Why dwells and whine about things we could not change such as FAM and all we all know nothing could change. Let's do what we can for those 11 Malaysian on the field trying at their best to make us proud. If you gave up your support because of this, then go ahead... Honestly i do not think that Harimau Malaya need support from such fan who only been there during their glory days.
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Jul 24 2011, 11:35 PM)
fail troll. China have participated in World Cup. And Indian, they don't have a proper football stadium to begin with.

based on your long BS theory, as per say we can only support Squash & Badminton? or maybe Silat & Takraw. what a boring country it will be. btw, out of curiosity what team did u support? i'm expecting the answer is Barcelona. heck even barca lost to Madrid in Copa del Ray. Please named the team that unbeatable.
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agreed with ameenskywalker and hidzwan for the post. i'm born as a malaysian n proud as a malaysian. no matter wut sport, football, badminton, squash, rugby we should stand by our team. a true supporter stand by his/her team no matter wut happened. as i said many times in my posts, SAPE LAGI NAK SOKONG BOLA KITA KALAU BUKAN KITA SENDIRI?


Added on July 25, 2011, 12:13 am
QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jul 24 2011, 11:53 PM)
Agree with ameen and sky.But i think the lack of support is due to politics affecting the national team.What the hell are politicians like khairy jamaluddin doing
on the FAM board? Should be headed by former country players not politicians.The organisation is terrible and should be revamped.just like fifa with people like sepp blatter doh.gif  Only good thing that FAM did was appoint rajagobal.
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agreed with fam should be headed by former national players. as fans, can we do something about this? anything dat can revamp the management structure of our beloved sport.

This post has been edited by hj.pet: Jul 25 2011, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(CluelessNick @ Jul 25 2011, 02:01 AM)
hahaah but i dunno why i typed it in . page expired @_@
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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jul 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
I call this BS. If it indeed by "Performance" as you claim, i bet after 2005 Anfield would be empty, have they won anything ? yet fan stand by them through rain.. through the wind... what about Arsenal ? Chelsea have they won anything beyond domestic ? Do you call that blind support as well ? So what then for these fan they left and start being Man United now ?
Why dwells and whine about things we could not change such as FAM and all we all know nothing could change. Let's do what we can for those 11 Malaysian on the field trying at their best to make us proud. If you gave up your support because of this, then go ahead... Honestly i do not think that Harimau Malaya need support from such fan who only been there during their glory days.
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haha I support arsenal, yet arsenal aint win anything for the last 6 years....now my country need support, I even want arsenal to lose the game against harimau in BJ...my country always bigger than any club.

but yet I understand abc2005, you just hurt when you see our beloved country crumble at jalan besar previously, but come on our country need the support more and more now...


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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jul 24 2011, 11:43 PM)
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P/S: abc2005 is what the English call glory hunters, fair-weather fans and what Malaysians call penyokong lalang. There will always be people like that. Just ignore them.
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Our swimmers, athletes, and basketball and other sport teams also need our supports. But where are we?
And picture paints a thousand words.
Tell me that isn't your reaction when you saw our team beaten tamely last Saturday.

This post has been edited by abc2005: Jul 25 2011, 12:36 AM
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post Jul 25 2011, 12:36 AM

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hm. i dont think fam is that bad. Well yes, they have their weaknesses, but we must agree that we should credit FAM for our recent success too. Our current harimau malaya team and harimau muda is born through FAM projects, encouraging teams to play under-21 players, gathered talented young players to form Harimau Muda, and remove the dependency to foreign talent in the league. They have consistently support the young tigers, always find opportunities for them (eg: slovakia). So i believe the current FAM leaders care about football. Their weaknesses are due to too much inconsistency in their decision, one can look at the super league rules (no of team, foreigners rule). However, positively thinking, these frequent inconsistencies maybe because they are always reevaluating the projects and decisions, well one cant really blame them then. Even scientiests believe everything in the world are dynamic not constant. =)
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jul 24 2011, 11:55 PM)
Depends. See Annuar Musa and what he does to Kelantan.
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No disrespect but They should only be there to sign the cheques, nothing more, them meddling in football matters is one of the big reasons we have gone backwards for so long.


Added on July 25, 2011, 12:44 am
QUOTE(nenasoren @ Jul 25 2011, 12:36 AM)
hm. i dont think fam is that bad. Well yes, they have their weaknesses, but we must agree that we should credit FAM for our recent success too. Our current harimau malaya team and harimau muda is born through FAM projects, encouraging teams to play under-21 players, gathered talented young players to form Harimau Muda, and remove the dependency to foreign talent in the league. They have consistently support the young tigers, always find opportunities for them (eg: slovakia). So i believe the current FAM leaders care about football. Their weaknesses are due to too much inconsistency in their decision, one can look at the super league rules (no of team, foreigners rule). However, positively thinking, these frequent inconsistencies maybe because they are always reevaluating the projects and decisions, well one cant really blame them then. Even scientiests believe everything in the world are dynamic not constant. =)
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It's called flip-flop, theres nothing scientific about it.

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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:30 AM)
Our swimmers, athletes, and basketball and other sport teams also need our supports. But where are we?
And picture paints a thousand words.
Tell me that isn't your reaction when you saw our team beaten tamely last Saturday.
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isn't this Malaysia football thread?? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Jul 25 2011, 12:06 AM)
agreed with ameenskywalker and hidzwan for the post. i'm born as a malaysian n proud as a malaysian. no matter wut sport, football, badminton, squash, rugby we should stand by our team. a true supporter stand by his/her team no matter wut happened. as i said many times in my posts, SAPE LAGI NAK SOKONG BOLA KITA KALAU BUKAN KITA SENDIRI?
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:30 AM)
Our swimmers, athletes, and basketball and other sport teams also need our supports. But where are we?
And picture paints a thousand words.
Tell me that isn't your reaction when you saw our team beaten tamely last Saturday.
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Your initial quote on "sh*t list" means that nobody is going to support the Malaysian football team. You didn't say anything about going to the stadium to watch the team. Do I like to watch swimming, athletics and basketball? No. But will I support the team or athletes participating? Of course. They're my countrymen for heaven's sake! I doubt any of us will say things like "don't bother supporting Malaysia in the ABL coz Phillipines gonna win anyway."

Everyone's reaction here is of course anything ranging from anger, disappointment, heartache, sadness... Don't tell me any Msian Man U fan didn't feel that when Man U lost to Barca in the Champs League final. But are they still Man U fans? You bet your bottom they are. But for Harimau Malaya? "AIYAH. LOSE TO SINGAPORE. NO NEED TO SUPPORT LAH".

This post has been edited by Zan81: Jul 25 2011, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:30 AM)
Our swimmers, athletes, and basketball and other sport teams also need our supports. But where are we?
And picture paints a thousand words.
Tell me that isn't your reaction when you saw our team beaten tamely last Saturday.
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I can tell you what I won't be doing. I won't be making ridiculous statements like "If the Malaysian basketball team want to be forever in the shit list, then XX" like you.

Your philosophy seems to be to support only when the going's good, abandon when things get difficult. Your argument about people only supporting when the team is playing well is asinine, to say the least. There are plenty of English club teams in the lower division who still get massive support, drawing in local crowds. If you support your team, you have to be there through thick and thin.

Your points are contradictory as well. "The English, the Dutch, Portuguese as well as French have garnered the supports from their nationals and also won their fans' respects because they know their players can perform." Going by your logic, our football team should have won your respect after winning consecutive regional tournaments and showing a marked improvement in their performance culminating in a progression to a second round qualifying tie for the first time in years.

But hey, if they don't qualify for the World Cup in Brazil, then they have to be on the shit list forever, eh? Perfect logic, old chap.





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QUOTE(Tabibpower @ Jul 24 2011, 08:27 PM)
Our main target is to be in the asian cup 2015. Third round world cup would be a bonus. Defending wise at this moment,we suck big time. Mark duric, the boroi china men and feeding the ball to super safee sali and roaring 12th player should do the trick. If we lost, meh, just another bump on the road to greatness!

Ps: trashing singapore in bukit jalil would just give me orgasm.
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+1 Yeah, me too...LOL

That fatti cina man already got a yellow....Harimau Malaya and make sure you give him another one....I don't want to see his lansi face again....

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jul 25 2011, 01:07 AM)
I can tell you what I won't be doing. I won't be making ridiculous statements like "If the Malaysian basketball team want to be forever in the shit list, then XX" like you.

Your philosophy seems to be to support only when the going's good, abandon when things get difficult. Your argument about people only supporting when the team is playing well is asinine, to say the least. There are plenty of English club teams in the lower division who still get massive support, drawing in local crowds. If you support your team, you have to be there through thick and thin.

Your points are contradictory as well. "The English, the Dutch, Portuguese as well as French have garnered the supports from their nationals and also won their fans' respects because they know their players can perform." Going by your logic, our football team should have won your respect after winning consecutive regional tournaments and showing a marked improvement in their performance culminating in a progression to a second round qualifying tie for the first time in years.

But hey, if they don't qualify for the World Cup in Brazil, then they have to be on the shit list forever, eh? Perfect logic, old chap.
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Jul 25 2011, 12:30 AM)
Our swimmers, athletes, and basketball and other sport teams also need our supports. But where are we?
And picture paints a thousand words.
Tell me that isn't your reaction when you saw our team beaten tamely last Saturday.
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I see your point there and I agree with your points. Some Malaysian tend to discriminate our other local sports and to be honest it might be me as well.

For me, I blame Malaysia's media. They doesn't promote enough other local sports. We might well known about Tennis players but can we Malaysians give one name in our Squash players other than our beloved Nicol?

I bet more than 50% could't answer it even our squash's achievement more than football.

No matter what you should not bring this matter all of sudden when Malaysia NT needs us.

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