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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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post Nov 11 2011, 05:54 PM

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Pentas 2 - 77 biji durian "mau san wong" booked!
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post Dec 7 2011, 05:29 PM

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Pentas 2 sales drop back to 79 units... sign of correction?
I say yes, a little bit. Sub sale market is pretty slow now, enquiry drop 50%. It's time to take a rest to celebrate Christmas & Chinese New Year!
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post Dec 8 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Dec 7 2011, 09:28 PM)
the remaining unsold 22units are mainly corner or end units? if yes, then 80% sales results is not a surprise to me.
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Intermediate - 82% sold
End Lot - 85% sold
Corner - 62% sold
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post Dec 15 2011, 03:13 PM

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Successful Project sales launching, I&P head shd take a look & learn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDrnlJ2LPag
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Dec 27 2011, 12:49 PM)
Dont save, buy first.....
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agree to certain extend this mindset works nod.gif
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Jan 7 2012, 04:04 PM)
Pentas 2 sale status remain as <80 units.
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Pentas 1 construction pictures: Taken Jan 7th 2012
Downstair:
1) Ceiling is height.
2) Powder room only occupied a small area, no harm to living room.
3) Living hall and dining area is huge.
4) wet kitchen a bit shorter and small. Should be ok for this size as there is dry kitchen separated.
5) Maid room size is not small, but toilet similar size as powder room.
6) Guess room and toilet look ok.
7) There is glass on stair case root top, sun linght can came in day time.
Upstair:
8) Upstair living hall quite big.
9) One back room size is smaller, the other wider.
10) Master bedroom is big, but toilet is small.

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Added on January 8, 2012, 12:11 am
QUOTE(yoki @ Jan 7 2012, 11:31 PM)
Inp progress is dem fast
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Boss, ada beli Damansara Foresta ka? You are really fast, almost every new project can see yr post, which project is good buy (for rental play)? boleh kasi tahu ka? There is one project by PKNS, just next to Setia Eco Park, is it good? Pls help icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Jan 10 2012, 03:45 PM)
may be that corner house AI himself bought smile.gif I not sure also just heard only. Or may be all pentas has almost the same build up, so they chooose pentas 1 for show. More important Pentas 1 already build halfway, Pentas 3 not yet started and Pentas 2 slower progress. They wanna launch Pentas 3 by Feb, so have to choose something ready to show !!!
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I doubt the show house is opened for public viewing, this show house is requested by the developer as sample unit, main contractor has to comply to all the building materials proposed by the developer, if public want to view must be pandai-pandai sneak in before the door is locked.
I remembered Alam Impian has a simple decorated show SD launched sometime in 2007, tat one is for public viewing, since then no more show unit.
The corner show unit is bout 32' wide, very grand like SD. cool.gif

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Jan 11 2012, 10:22 PM)
Sunday 6pm main entrance gate fully closed. 11am sat best time, no supervisor.
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Tai Kor, I&P management is monitoring this thread lah, I believe fr today onwards, the site will hv armed police carrying M16 waiting for you... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jan 12 2012, 07:17 PM)
Wanna treat customer with M16 meh ...  biggrin.gif ... their website got construction progress but never update. So we are helping them to update and promoting Pentas here. They should also sponsor us site safety helmet ....  brows.gif
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Visited the site just now, the show unit is still in plastering stage, nothing much can see, the best part of the house is the void area in the living hall, staring fr 2nd floor is great!! According to SA, Pentas 3 will be launched after Chinese NY, price RM799,000 up.

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:02 PM)
Sorry boss....

Where is that precint 1 & 2?
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 25 2012, 01:01 AM)
The first Pentas is very nice indeed. I dont inp is a lame developer becoz they are pnb owned. Bandar kinrara has become one of the best townships in klang very.

But very true inp need to have more modern design to cater for the young and succesful ppl. Also, the commercial area, hopefully they can get aeon jusco heheh. Or ikea!
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I carry different view, in my opinion Bandar Kinrara is a failure township. If you study it's strategic location, it shd become the CBD in Puchong now, I stay in BK for 13 yrs, my neighbour & me dun hv great feeling bout this township, if not the location and the forest reserved, I will leave this area. it's a shame! sweat.gif

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Jan 29 2012, 12:39 PM)
Tqvm, boss!

sorri for asking another question : During your visit to the site yesterday, was Pentas2 on a higher ground than Pentas1? From the pixs, i noted there are under-con hses in the background that seems located higher. Any idea those under which phase?   

If InP  wants to push Pentas 2 and 3, they really need to step up the marketing efforts in the following:
- build sample house
- reinforce the USPs eg low density, space, lushed greenscape...
- commit to build galvanised perimeter
- confirm more details on the commercial eg JUSCO and international school
- consider full dibs
- put in more freebies....kitchen cabinets, air conds, etc

if InP head honcho's are reading this thread, you shld know what to do next..... wink.gif
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The whole world knows it except the I&P top management, they will not do it.

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TTDI Alam Impian new launching coming soon! 4th February, Phase 5 - nearer to club house. 2&3 storey 22'x75 & 24'x75, the facade is modern but layout is moderate. Estimated selling price for 24'x75' shd be around 770K up. TTDI AI township planning is much better than I&P AI, In long term 8-10 yrs, I forsee the appreciation (%) is definitely better than I&P AI in general.
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QUOTE(winterad99 @ Jan 31 2012, 03:14 PM)
Estimated selling price for 24'x75' shd be around 770K up is for 2 storey or 3 storey? How many built up?
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Nothing revealed, only model house. SA says bu around 2700sf. I estimate 770K for 2-storey 24'x75'. Phase 4 Aquina all intermediate sold except 1 facing T-junction unsold. TTDI comes with club house and proper fencing, sub sale market can fetch at least 20% (per sf price) higher than non gated & non club house, in Damansara area, the different could reach 50%-70%! In between Pentas 3 and TTDI coming launching, 24'x75' shd hv the edge over I&P 25'x85', estimated Pentas 3 launched mid February at 799K up.
Pentas 3 facade can throw into the longkang liao..
In my opinion, Pentas 1&2 is still very safe bet, I bought Pentad 1 w/o considering TTDI was mainly due to TTDI land is at at lower level, downside risk is higher, if nothing happen to the river, TTDI shd spark!
My investment pattern is not aiming for the biggest margin but lowest risk. Just my 2 cent

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 31 2012, 04:39 PM)
wah, Phase 5 coming dy ah?

My favourite is always 22x 75 and 24 x 75. I prefer width more than lenght.

Hmm, I assume both IP and TTDI has great masterplan of itself. Location wise, IP should he more advantage for now, as current Spira, Viola and Aquina are too deep into the far land. TTDI wanted to build the bungalows which is more nearer to entrance. Facade wise and layout plan, TTDI should have an edge here.

But I don't see a good response for corner and end lot units, always available all the time. I always prefer end lot with extra feet land if own stay.

Looking to get more info.
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Aquina has 36 corners / end lot + land, at least 15 lots are odd size, kenot buylah nod.gif
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Sorry to interrupt this thread a bit, let us study the movement of TTDI AI launching price, it can be a yardstick for I&P management to gauge the ideal price for their's future launch, Pentas owner shd take a close look of this project as it has direct impact in the future subsale dealings. TTDI has total 6 phases for link houses, the rest are commercial and bungalow projects.
Phase 5 - Zircona
Land size - 22'x75' and 24'x75', mainly are 2-stry, only the last 2 units (corner) are 3-sty. 770K is my guessing price only, if 720K for 24'x75', I think it is a real bargain deal. Location near beautiful man made lake and club house. Setback is near to "SURAU".


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QUOTE(spydermind @ Jan 31 2012, 10:42 PM)
I&P marketing is really bad and their planning is not proper.

I dont understand the logic of them keep launching bigger houses within Alam impian. If you look at the price, for a totally new area, the price is not getting cheap anymore. Either you offer bigger house to attract people to move in or you offer smaller house targeted at those who wanted landed but cant afford other area. They should focus on another aspect of development. They have decent house but not really good at marketing. I remember registered a couple of time, but every new launch, they never inform me at all via sms or email.
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I carry different view, I&P is definitely on the right track to design superlink homes, the whole mkt is shortage of bigger house i.e - >3000sf, 5-6 rooms.
The price is right (<250/sf), the building quality is above average, at least better than TTDI, TMS, IOI and SPS. I attribute the mistakes made by I&P in 2 scenarios :-


1) If No G+G / club house - No problem, however the facade MUST be futuristic. I am very sure Pentas price can sell at least 10%-20% more.

For example : Futuristic design
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2) If I&P insist on current design - No problem, but must be G+G / F+G / Club house with great landscaping. Old DPC link hse and Sri Tanjung house design is as bad as I&P AI design, but they can still pull the crowd to buy fr them, and the property has appreciated so much!


DPC - Fantastic landscaping with lousy house facade, but Samling manage to sell 100% more expensive than the projects in vicinity.

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Sri Tanjung
- the house design is very low ya, but selling like Hot Cakes, price appreciation (%) has broken all the records in Penang!

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I hope I&P can change, buyer's behavior has CHANGED!

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QUOTE(spydermind @ Feb 1 2012, 09:01 AM)
UFO, i agree with you in general. What i am trying to point out in addition as following:

1. Selling bigger house or Small house with security / landscape -- assuming same price

This is the option that I&P need to consider seriously. As you already pointed out clearly. We have to ask this question: Do you want a 22x75 with G&G (without clubhouse) or 24x80 (without G&G) assuming the price is the same? Well, the important thing is not what you or me think but rather what is general the market wants (majority).

2. This is a township development with more than 1200 acres (even though 200+acres was sold to Naza), there are still 1000 acres. Not that i dont support mid end market, but from a township development, it is important to have diversity. So, it is important to also cater for slightly affordable house (townhouse or smaller link house, 300-500k) to push the market mass and step up the development rate of Alam Impian. Bear in mind that Alam Impian is not a commercial township, not a manufacturing, not retail, but mainly a residential area. If not, they really need to create more niche in their product to attract upgraders. Setia Alam on the other hand have lot of variety of house cater for different market and different needs..also now started to pull in more commercial factor. Both Alam impian and SA actually started about the same time frame (just a couple of years gap).

In fact I&P house is pretty good in quality and certain areas are better than NAza TTDI, e.g. car porch area, common pedestrain walkway....

Just feel pity they didnt realise the change of the buyers and keep on doing things that they are doing. Look at Kinrara Residences, a quick project just shortly about 1.5 years ago, already chalking up hundreds of unit in sales....while I&P still taking their own sweet time. I&P normally offer decent house size with decent quality and also their projects are mainly freehold. If you cant understand what people want, you have to influence and create the market
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Precisely... It's a shame that she has the best instrument and resources in hand but dunno how to use it to creat a niche for themselves. I hv posted in other forum b4, if not the high score in quantitative marks, I&P with large land banks and strong cash reserved, and able to sell cheap to hv value creation, they won't be in the The Edge Top 10 list for consecutive 9 years, it's nothing to be proud of...in terms of "creativity" I rate I&P outside Top 50. doh.gif


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QUOTE(yoki @ Feb 1 2012, 09:31 AM)
you sum it all well. that is the difference with average and better developer right

sime darby did exactly the same like I&P in thier Putra heights, Denai Alam, Bukit Raja township, Row and rows of houses, no ramp, no additional infra, let you all choke on the traffic, lets also digest BK township, commercial wise lose out to IOI,  there is no coincidence on this, these developer just few notches below, but they have one trump card, prime land

i guess the very same township planner still working in these GLC

many buyers are already not biting on launches by these copy and paste from previous developers, once moving toward certain price threshold i.e >900k houses

but i think they have not reaslised it yet, they still blame ltv70%
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I&P is lucky with cheap land cost, if not kenot fight with other developers. I consider Bdr Kinrara is a failed project, I give 30 / 100. shakehead.gif

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Someone posted this info in TTDI Thread,

"Zircona
20x75 : starting 575k onwards
22x75 : starting 622k onwards
24x75 : starting 680k onwards

All stated are before disc. Got 3% disc for early bird. Most of corner is 2.5 storey. Not 3 storey.
3 storey will be the last phase of their link resident in AI.
Scale model for Zirconia was displayed at AI gallery with 22x75 and 24x75 type."


If the above price info is correct, then I can say Pentas 3 sales sure koyak!
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QUOTE(yoki @ Feb 2 2012, 07:41 PM)
hmm interesting....psf is RM250 there about...24x75 looks interesting it F&G

wake up I&P, TTDI going for the kill
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Yoki, 24'x75 is a bargain!
But I still doubt the selling price...

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