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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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post Jul 16 2011, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 16 2011, 02:14 PM)
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Okay let's get to basic first.

1. If I understood your reply, you assumed I or my friend uses 'Area mode' AF tracking when comparing the 85 f/1.4D versus the 85mm f/1.4G?

2. 50% that my shots are OOF? Meaning not focused to where I intend to? I get it focused where I want it to be. I shoot only in single AF point mode. If it is the eyes, then it is the eyes.

3. Based on my experience with the 85 f/1.4D, it acquire focus faster than the 85mm f/1.4G. But hit rate aren't as good as the f/1.4G despite being faster.

4. Depending on condition, sometimes the 85 f/1.4D can't even get a lock under low light, hunting compared to 85mm f/1.4G. To be frank, have you tried the 85mm f/1.4G and comparing it side by side with the f/1.4D before? If you did, you would understand what I experience.
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This I would agree 100%, have used my friend's 85 f/1.4D many times already before getting my own 1.4g

1. Focus accuracy @ 1.4 is way better than the 1.4D under low light
2. Focus speed i think is almost the same anyway ( Way slower than 70-200 but not unbearably so )
3. Focus accuracy improves once stop down ( I guess it's the same for any prime lens? )
4. Sharpness for 1.4G wideopen is generally a bit better than 1.4D, but not shockingly better as the 1.4D is quite usable wideopen

My conclusion is same with CY, under low light condition the D version hunts and miss focus much more frequently compared to the 1.4G version, there's just no comparison at all smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2011, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 17 2011, 04:05 AM)
No.
Excellent !  rclxms.gif
I guess I need to get myself a 1.4G and shoot more.
Never held the AF-S 85mm f/1.4G before. If under extreme low light, I only rely and use the 15 cross type sensor to focus.
Agree on all accounts except for #1. I would they are about equal and would depend on how you handle it.
That's why I mentioned  that I will not refuse if you give me the new AF-S 85mm f/1.4G to replace my AF 85mm f/1.4D.  biggrin.gif

The one thing I like (and miss) about AF-S lenses is the ability to override the attained final focus manually if required by twisting the focus barrel.
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Since u mentioned u have never held AFS 85g before, how would you even know the focus ability is the same? I am speaking base on my experience of using both lenses, I know how to use 1.4 lens laugh.gif Hard to believe that u can say the focus hit rate of 1.4D = 1.4G from a user who have never even use the 1.4G version before. It's just like those 80-200 user saying their lens is as sharp as my 70-200 VR2 doh.gif
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post Jul 17 2011, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 17 2011, 10:28 AM)
LOL, totally agree. Well, experience is the best smile.gif. Like wise, I always thought 80200 was pretty good and easy to handle.. but the other time trying out Bliz's 80200 got a shock haha!

Initially I always thought 85D and 85G differences is just the nanocoat, but was dead wrong when I compared both units side by side.
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Lol never try never know, don't just say the focus hit rate of D version is the same as the G version when you didn't even test the G version before laugh.gif ... 80-200 is really front heavy and feels much more heavier than the 70-200 eventhough the latest version of 70-200vr2 is the heaviest among all doh.gif


Added on July 17, 2011, 11:19 am
QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Jul 17 2011, 10:57 AM)
wat's the current market price for 85G & 16-35...?
got drop or increase...?
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Normally price of lenses won't change much, that's why always buy more lenses first drool.gif

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post Jul 18 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM)
Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing.  hmm.gif

My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion?

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No offense here but u conclude base on your understanding of owning other AFS/D lenses other than the 85mm F/1.4G. The 1.4D is my friend's copy, i had the pleasure of using it ever since he bought it ( On weddings/outdoor ) not just a while but usually for the whole session so i believe i am eligible to give a truthful opinion regarding the G vs D... I have not own many lenses before but i am just saying based on what I have used extensively/owned smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 08:01 PM)
Not bad you noticed I didn't put my flash inside haha, oh well my flash is inside my bag. SB900 don't worry about fungus lah~ tongue.gif
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My flash also living outside cry.gif


Added on July 18, 2011, 8:14 pm
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 05:20 PM)

Ok, understood. I base my summary on owning 6 AF-S lenses and 4 AF-D lenses.
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Some AFS lens focuses even slower than the D version, a good example will be the 50 f/1.4 AFS vs AF-D...i noticed nowadays only the pro lenses focuses real fast ( f/2.8 zoom lens ), the latest f/1.4 lens can't match the pro lenses in speed for sure sweat.gif

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post Aug 11 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 11 2011, 12:30 PM)
Both lens have pros and cons, different lens for different type of shooting ;-)
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Get both 70-200vr2 and 85g drool.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 12 2011, 05:59 PM)
I am getting 300mm F2.8, don't know which version I should get doh.gif
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If u have budget, just get the latest VR2 version, else the VR1 2nd hand will do the job as well whistling.gif .. Ever considered 200mm F/2 VRII? brows.gif Add teleconverter can become 300mm F/2.8

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