Saw a rojak Golf today in Solaris.

Model is a standard black 1.4 TSI, but modified with Denvers, GTI front bumper...

And a Golf R emblem on the rear

I was in the same situation a few months back, in the end went with the Golf.

Mainly because of the price factor:

If you take the Scirocco, you're paying RM34,000 more than the Golf GTI.

In most other countries, the Scirocco is actually cheaper than the Golf GTI (in Singapore it's around RM16,000 cheaper).

In other words, you're paying more for what should be a cheaper car, and making yourself a victim of the government's extra tax on 2-door cars.

The engine and the gearbox are the same.

The interior looks almost exactly the same.

The handling is supposedly better.

But biggest plus point for the Scirocco is it looks MUCH sexier. People stare when you drive it. You feel like a rockstar. It's still a special thing to see one on the road.

Hardly anyone stares at a Golf, GTI or otherwise. I bet a 1.4 Scirocco would still get more stares even than a Golf R.

Whether this is worth the artificially inflated price is a decision only you can make.

This post has been edited by omichael: Jul 11 2011, 04:48 PM

That's true! And if you compare it to the GTI SE, it also has no cruise control and no sun roof.

Not sure if the SE is still available though...

If you had Googled it, you would have found it.

http://forum.vwpoloclubmalaysia.com/

I drive a 1.4 TSI with similar mileage, and having this exact same issue.

It's kind of like a buzzing noise yes? But mine seems to come from inside the dashboard somewhere, not the exhaust as some others have pointed out.

I'm hoping it will go away as the engine breaks in. Don't want to bring it to SC yet so early on in case it's nothing to worry about.

This post has been edited by omichael: Jul 16 2011, 12:33 PM

I also chose a Golf over a Scirocco for the same reason.

But it's not fair to say you're buying a car for the "wrong reason" just because you want people to look at you.

Who's to say what is right or wrong? Some people want style. Some people want power. Some people want economy.

For example if you're the kind of person who only wants to get from A - B, then you can also say buying a GTI is a waste of money. Better get a TSI instead.

Plus we're not in SG, we're in Malaysia. And the reality here is, a Scirocco gets more glances and admiration from the layman than ANY kind of Golf, whether it's a TSI, a GTI or even an R.

This post has been edited by omichael: Aug 18 2011, 09:13 PM

Funny that you say to each his own, and proceed to sound like a snobbish motoring Nazi right after.

As I clearly said, I too own a Golf. For me personally, the inflated price for style was not worth it.

The difference between us is I'd rather not judge those who choose the Scirocco. Because from my perspective, I can see the merit of both performance and aesthetics.

Who are you to say Scirocco buyers are making an unwise choice? All that matters is how satisfied they are with their purchase. It doesn't make you any smarter or more sophisticated than them.

Wow, so you buy a car solely to get compliments from enthusiasts? I guess you go to the track every weekend then? Are all your friends, family members and co-workers hardcore motoring enthusiasts? Won any motor sport trophies lately?

Remember you're on the LYN VW thread. It's a thread for enthusiasts and casual drivers alike. So accept the reality that a "car" has many different ways of making people feel good.

To many, that feel good factor comes from the random glances they get on the street and the compliments they get from their friends (which they wouldn't be getting if they had chosen the common and plain-looking GTI.)

BTW, I know where I want to belong too - and it's definitely not with my head in the clouds, thinking I'm better than everyone else

This post has been edited by omichael: Aug 20 2011, 01:19 AM

Not trying to pick a bone with you mate. And of course everyone is entitled to an opinion.

I found your tone rather condescending though, which is what prompted me to respond.

But to be fair I was pretty rude too. So let's put it to rest.

Which SA is this??? 3k Sounds totally worth it to me man. 40 - 50 hp is around the same increase as APR and other remaps.

Yeah man the spec sheet is surprisingly generous. I wasn't expecting a sunroof and 17' Detroits.

Only thing I can say to defend my Golf TSI is that it's bigger and more comfortable... but not quite as fast

Can you justify your statement a little more? What exactly makes VW snobbish? Is it because they can only deliver early next year? If so I don't think it's fair to blame VWM for that, they have no control over vehicle production output.

My experience with VW so far has been excellent, from the first time I walked into their show room to the first time I stepped into the service center. Only complaint is they take a little too long to service your car.

Wow I wonder how much spare time you have to spend all this energy complaining about VWM.

And double wow, you don't even own one?

My experience has been good so far. I don't work for VGM. I'm just happy with my purchase.

So chill out. Life's too short to be a hater

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Added on August 29, 2011, 6:27 pmRule of thumb in business: unhappy buyers will always make more noise than happy buyers.

And many of the so-called "snobbish" things you say about VGM are simply normal business decisions.

If they were so forthcoming about the GTI SE, who would have bought the normal GTI? They had to finish their stock.

If the Polo GTI is so limited in stock, why should they waste their time giving EVERYONE a test drive? They'll have plenty of time to go mass market when their stocks improve, and they can actually meet the demand.

I do agree on the service though. They should definitely do something about service turnover times. And have more courtesy cars.

This post has been edited by omichael: Aug 29 2011, 06:34 PM

With all due disrespect, take your unconstructive whining and stick it where the sun don't shine bro.

You say you want to know how VWM owners are doing with their car, then when I tell you I'm happy you imply I'm some kind of tool. In other words you just want to hear the bad stuff.

So good luck with your Pug, I'm sure it won't give you any problems at all

This post has been edited by omichael: Aug 30 2011, 11:05 AM

Wearnes is now offering official accessories.

Has anyone checked out what they have and what their prices are like?

Thinking about 17' Detroits for my Golf





This post has been edited by omichael: Aug 30 2011, 11:13 AM

They said to call 1800 88 2221 for more info. Will try calling later this week, since now is public holiday time.

Really, really hoping they do remaps.

Standard answer to this question is it depends on your relationship with the service center/service advisor. Some people's warranties get burned, some don't.

But to be extra safe you might wanna go back to APR and ask them to remove the remap whenever you want to make a warranty claim. If I'm not mistaken they'll do this and reinstall for free as many times as you like.

I recently bought an RCD510 and installed it myself. The voided warranty is not only on the player, but on anything that the SC can justify is related to the player.

A few weeks back I had some rattling noises in my dashboard, and sent it to SC. They told me that since I have changed my player, it's possible that the rattling is related to that. And that by right, they can refuse my warranty claim for the dashboard.

But in the end they did it anyway. So it all depends on how you can sweet talk them

Well now that Wearnes is offering official aftermarket accessories, no need to be takut anymore. I'm calling them tomorrow to find out prices and what they offer. But something tells me their prices are gonna be jacked up sky high...

Useless fact of the day:

In Argentina, VW still produces and sells the Golf MK4

http://www.volkswagen.com.ar/ar/es/models/golf.html

Someone mentioned there's ready stock for 2010 GTI at RM16k discount. A pretty good deal if you don't mind a car that's been collecting dust in a warehouse for nearly 2 years.