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ShionLim
post Feb 9 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:37 PM)
Did I say Main Door? I say door only.

BTW, Door is not air tight. So if its close it does not mean chi not coming in.
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Yea, sorry.. my mistake take your DOOR and MAIN DOOR.

So I rephrase, QI only comming in to the house thru DOOR? can not comming in to the house thru WINDOW?

See.. to your latest comment..

You said QI comming in thru DOOR GAP as well?

If Qi is not Lion Dance comming in to the house thru open door only.. Qi can comming in to the house as long as there is GAP or HOLE or MOUTH right? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 9 2012, 11:43 PM)
Yea, sorry.. my mistake take your DOOR and MAIN DOOR.

So I rephrase, QI only comming in to the house thru DOOR? can not comming in to the house thru WINDOW?

See.. to your latest comment..

You said QI comming in thru DOOR GAP as well?

If Qi is not Lion Dance comming in to the house thru open door only.. Qi can comming in to the house as long as there is GAP or HOLE or MOUTH right?  biggrin.gif
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Maybe you can advice your friend who doing house renovation something like this "if you think Door is not important". Put a door in a bad location, and open the windows in good location. See what happen after some years.

Chi flows everywhere, we need to know how easy the chi can flow in.


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post Feb 9 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:38 PM)
So how does Qi come in the house?
Think you said earlier that aircond was the link between out side and inside. So Qi is coming through the aircond?
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1 question...

Why must QI comming in to the house to take effect?

Most feng shui master never see how Qi form, but they just know how Qi flow.


Turbulance cause by the aircond or fan is a link, a link to the external turbulance, if both Internal turbulance and External turbulance linked in 1 line in particular Gua, the effect will be EMPLIFIED!



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post Feb 9 2012, 11:59 PM

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Qi DO NOT choose which is the main door. YOU choose which is the main door.

We select the main door based on which Qi you want to receive. the architectural or the house main door might not be the door we use to come in from. If that is the small door at the side of your house then that is the main door. The main door in feng shui is the door that you use.

As for Qi coming through the window, unless you come in to your house through the window then we use it as the reference, if not then it is not critical.
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:49 PM)
Maybe you can advice your friend who doing house renovation something like this "if you think Door is not important".  Put a door in a bad location, and open the windows in good location. See what happen after some years.

Chi flows everywhere, we need to know how easy the chi can flow in.
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hahaha... your bad area not equal to my bad area mar..

may be your bad area is my good area, for example.. NW is good to my feng shui but not to you this year right?

haha.. but we do shared the same it is bad in SE, but you dun know how bad it is if you got internal turbulance and external turbulance linked up. smile.gif


Added on February 10, 2012, 12:07 am
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:59 PM)
Qi DO NOT choose which is the main door. YOU choose which is the main door.

We select the main door based on which Qi you want to receive. the architectural or the house main door might not be the door we use to come in from. If that is the small door at the side of your house then that is the main door. The main door in feng shui is the door that you use.

As for Qi coming through the window, unless you come in to your house through the window then we use it as the reference, if not then it is not critical.
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hahaha... so Qi can follow your order and Qi know which is your main door?

Qi must enter the house thru main door like Lion Dance? Lion Dance enter the house according to your direction when they visit your house mar.. right?

So, you mark a big X in front of MAIN DOOR so that Qi able to recognise it?

And Qi intellgent enough to "SEE" which color door to enter or to effect? biggrin.gif

Or qi just flow like wind anywhere and everywhere?

This post has been edited by ShionLim: Feb 10 2012, 12:07 AM
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 12:02 AM)
hahaha... your bad area not equal to my bad area mar..

may be your bad area is my good area, for example.. NW is good to my feng shui but not to you this year right?

haha.. but we do shared the same it is bad in SE, but you dun know how bad it is if you got internal turbulance and external turbulance linked up.  smile.gif


Added on February 10, 2012, 12:07 am

hahaha... so Qi can follow your order and Qi know which is your main door?

Qi must enter the house thru main door like Lion Dance? Lion Dance enter the house according to your direction when they visit your house mar.. right?

So, you mark a big X in front of MAIN DOOR so that Qi able to recognise it?

And Qi intellgent enough to "SEE" which color door to enter or to effect?  biggrin.gif

Or qi just flow like wind anywhere and everywhere?
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Let me try to make it clearer.

The "DOOR" that we "USE" is the "Main Door". The other doors that we don't use is not the main door because we don't use it. Get it? doh.gif

(and to answer your question why the other doors is not the main door, is because we DON'T USE it to go in and out of the house. Hence NOT the main door) blush.gif (and why can't Qi come in that door? Because we don't open it) blink.gif

No need to put a big X unless you forgot which door you suppose to come in from... whistling.gif

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post Feb 10 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:22 AM)
Let me try to make it clearer.

The "DOOR" that we "USE" is the "Main Door". The other doors that we don't use is not the main door because we don't use it. Get it?  doh.gif

(and to answer your question why the other doors is not the main door, is because we DON'T USE it to go in and out of the house. Hence NOT the main door)  blush.gif

No need to put a big X unless you forgot which door you suppose to come in from... whistling.gif
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hahaha... yea.. that what I ask lor..

why must Qi follow your decision which door to enter house?

why must Qi follow you which door to enter the house?

why must Qi enter house only thru MAIN DOOR?

how you know Qi enter house thru MAIN DOOR but not thru window or side door or GAP or HOLE some where?

if door that you used it consider MAIN DOOR, so how about you in and out at the back of your house? that's called BACK DOOR? so Qi won't enter thru there? tongue.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 9 2012, 11:56 PM)
1 question...

Why must QI comming in to the house to take effect?

Most feng shui master never see how Qi form, but they just know how Qi flow.
Turbulance cause by the aircond or fan is a link, a link to the external turbulance, if both Internal turbulance and External turbulance linked in 1 line in particular Gua, the effect will be EMPLIFIED!
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So without Qi coming in the house, what feng shui are you doing in the house without Qi? Your Gua is a type of Qi....
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:32 AM)
So without Qi coming in the house, what feng shui are you doing in the house without Qi? Your Gua is a type of Qi....
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You see...

when the 1st conceptual about Qi wrong, it wrong all the way to the end.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flow like Water.. water flow from high to low, why feng shui master said Qi will enter house thru main door even the door is 2 or 3 steps higher than the outside land? Logic mei? kakaka...


Again, you missed the question bellow, here I post again.


QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 9 2012, 11:56 PM)
1 question...

Why must QI comming in to the house to take effect?

Most feng shui master never see how Qi form, but they just know how Qi flow.
Turbulance cause by the aircond or fan is a link, a link to the external turbulance, if both Internal turbulance and External turbulance linked in 1 line in particular Gua, the effect will be EMPLIFIED!
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Added on February 10, 2012, 12:46 amOh.. I missed.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flowing on the road like water doesn't create effect.. does feng shui master said when the Qi start effect?

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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 12:30 AM)
hahaha... yea.. that what I ask lor..

why must Qi follow your decision which door to enter house?

why must Qi follow you which door to enter the house?

why must Qi enter house only thru MAIN DOOR?

how you know Qi enter house thru MAIN DOOR but not thru window or side door or GAP or HOLE some where?

if door that you used it consider MAIN DOOR, so how about you in and out at the back of your house? that's called BACK DOOR? so Qi won't enter thru there?  tongue.gif
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Yes if you "USE" the back door to go in and out of your house then that is considered the 'Main Door', why? because 'YOU' as the occupant of the house enters the house from there then so does Qi. Why it does not come in the other doors, is because you don't open them.

Why do they not come in the Gap or Hole? It does but an insignificant amount comes through therefore not critical.

In feng shui The house is a container of Qi. The feng shui quality of the house is determined by the quality of Qi it receives and it receive Qi through the main door(which is the door that YOU use to go in and out). That is why sometime you see ppl use the side door to go in and out of the house because the main door is not receiving good Qi.

I think your argument is getting childish... blink.gif Please use some logic to explain your principles.


Added on February 10, 2012, 12:56 am
QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 12:42 AM)
You see...

when the 1st conceptual about Qi wrong, it wrong all the way to the end.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flow like Water.. water flow from high to low, why feng shui master said Qi will enter house thru main door even the door is 2 or 3 steps higher than the outside land? Logic mei? kakaka...
Again, you missed the question bellow, here I post again.

Added on February 10, 2012, 12:46 amOh.. I missed.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flowing on the road like water doesn't create effect.. does feng shui master said when the Qi start effect?
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"Qi is dispersed by the wind, gathers by the boundaries of water" hence Wind & Water (Feng Shui)

The concept of Qi flows like water is to illustrate that Qi flows. But ultimately Qi is dispersed by the wind. Hence yes Qi will flow through the main door even if it is 2 or 3 steps higher.

Ask yourself this, a house with the door 2 or 3 steps higher that the outside land and a house with 8 or 9 steps higher than the land outside, which will receive more Qi?

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post Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)
Yes if you "USE" the back door to go in and out of your house then that is considered the 'Main Door', why? because 'YOU' as the occupant of the house enters the house from there then so does Qi. Why it does not come in the other doors, is because you don't open them.

Why do they not come in the Gap or Hole? It does but an insignificant amount comes through therefore not critical.

In feng shui The house is a container of Qi. The feng shui quality of the house is determined by the quality of Qi it receives and it receive Qi through the main door(which is the door that YOU use to go in and out). That is why sometime you see ppl use the side door to go in and out of the house because the main door is not receiving good Qi.

I think your argument is getting childish...  blink.gif  Please use some logic to explain your principles.
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Aiyoo... you ask me use logic aarh?

I asked so many questions all about logic wor..

ok.. BACK DOOR also MAIN DOOR. So you need 2 sets of FX charts as well?

Feng Shui master said... Wind blow Qi Flow..

So when wind reach the house, Qi and Wind split, wind can enter house as long as there is open space, but Qi only enter house thru MAIN DOOR that peoples used to enter and exit the house? This LOGIC shown, QI follow where peoples go?

According to your said, Qi enter house thru Gap and Hole, but insignificant amount comes thru not critical. So, people just close the door after enter lah, so no Qi can come in, never mind door in bad location or not already lor.. right? biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM

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And to answer your question on when does Qi take effect, it take effect when you are there long enough for it to affect you.

Qi on the road does not affect you because you are not stationary long enough for it to affect you. doh.gif

What is long enough?
You sleep 6-8 hours in your room, then that will affect you.
You in your house for 8-10hours then that will affect you. If you never ever go back to your house, then perfect feng shui in a house that you are not in is useless cause you are not there long enough for it to take effect. blink.gif
You work for 8 hours a day in your office, that will affect you.
The longer that you stay in a place, then the more the Qi will affect you. That simple. whistling.gif
The less time, the less effect... rclxub.gif

Make sense? sweat.gif

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post Feb 10 2012, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

"Qi is dispersed by the wind, gathers by the boundaries of water" hence Wind & Water (Feng Shui)

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I see.. so Feng Shui to you is Wind and Water which is separate element.

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

The concept of Qi flows like water is to illustrate that Qi flows. But ultimately Qi is dispersed by the wind. Hence yes Qi will flow through the main door even if it is 2 or 3 steps higher.
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hehehe... so Qi dispersed by the wind.. where wind blow Qi goes accordingly, am I right? So, Qi goes everywhere Wind goes. smile.gif

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

Ask yourself this, a house with the door 2 or 3 steps higher that the outside land and a house with 8 or 9 steps higher than the land outside, which will receive more Qi?
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This question you asked a wrong guy liao lor... you not able to get answer you want. My answer is depend on the TURBULANCE.
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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM)
Aiyoo... you ask me use logic aarh?

I asked so many questions all about logic wor..

ok.. BACK DOOR also MAIN DOOR. So you need 2 sets of FX charts as well?

Feng Shui master said... Wind blow Qi Flow..

So when wind reach the house, Qi and Wind split, wind can enter house as long as there is open space, but Qi only enter house thru MAIN DOOR that peoples used to enter and exit the house? This LOGIC shown, QI follow where peoples go?

According to your said, Qi enter house thru Gap and Hole, but insignificant amount comes thru not critical. So, people just close the door after enter lah, so no Qi can come in, never mind door in bad location or not already lor.. right? biggrin.gif
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How many times you want me to say, the door that you USE is the main door. Regardless if it is the side door, the middle door, the back door, the left side a bit to the center door, it doesn't matter. The door that YOU mainly use to enter the house is the MAIN DOOR. get it?

As for your FX chart, I assume you mean flying star chart, that uses the BUILDING FACING not the main door facing. Please get your theory right.
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM)
And to answer your question on when does Qi take effect, it take effect when you are there long enough for it to affect you.

Qi on the road does not affect you because you are not stationary long enough for it to affect you.  doh.gif
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Correct, correct.

If I enter the house and close the door immediately I enter, so does that affect?

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM)
What is long enough?
You sleep 6-8 hours in your room, then that will affect you.
You in your house for 8-10hours then that will affect you. If you never ever go back to your house, then perfect feng shui in a house that you are not in is useless cause you are not there long enough for it to take effect.  blink.gif
You work for 8 hours a day in your office, that will affect you.
The longer that you stay in a place, then the more the Qi will affect you. That simple.  whistling.gif
The less time, the less effect... rclxub.gif

Make sense? sweat.gif
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Yes, correct.. that make sense. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 01:16 AM)
I see.. so Feng Shui to you is Wind and Water which is separate element.
hehehe... so Qi dispersed by the wind.. where wind blow Qi goes accordingly, am I right? So, Qi goes everywhere Wind goes.  smile.gif
This question you asked a wrong guy liao lor... you not able to get answer you want. My answer is depend on the TURBULANCE.
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Item 1. Yes. Wind and water are two separate elements that affect Qi. Wind moves Qi, water gathers Qi.

Item 2. Yes. Qi is everywhere. It is the quality of Qi is different.

Item 3. Don't understand your turbulence concept. Can I ask which school of thought it comes from?
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:17 AM)
How many times you want me to say, the door that you USE is the main door. Regardless if it is the side door, the middle door, the back door, the left side a bit to the center door, it doesn't matter. The door that YOU mainly use to enter the house is the MAIN DOOR. get it?
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Ok ok, I get it.. any door that people used to enter and exit the house consider MAIN DOOR. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:17 AM)
As for your FX chart, I assume you mean flying star chart, that uses the BUILDING FACING not the main door facing.  Please get your theory right.
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oh.. so new technique huh? Building use FX method and main door use other method... main door use BaZai?


Added on February 10, 2012, 1:27 am
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:22 AM)
Item 1. Yes. Wind and water are two separate elements that affect Qi. Wind moves Qi, water gathers Qi.

Item 2. Yes. Qi is everywhere. It is the quality of Qi is different.

Item 3. Don't understand your turbulence concept. Can I ask which school of thought it comes from?
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I use Liu Fa. blush.gif

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post Feb 10 2012, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 10 2012, 01:24 AM)

oh.. so new technique huh? Building use FX method and main door use other method... main door use BaZai?
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It is always building facing. blink.gif If you use door facing then if you move the door to the side then would you have a new FX chart?

For example, if your main door is facing S. Then you plot your FX chart. You think that E is the best location/facing to put your main door. So if you move your main door there. Shouldn't you have to replot your FX chart to be facing E since the door have moved? But the new chart with now facing E might not have good stars in that sector. Then how? Move the door to N? Then have to plot a FX chart that is N facing... Then your FX Chart is different again.... Never ending.... rclxub.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:38 AM)
It is always building facing.  blink.gif  If you use door facing then if you move the door to the side then would you have a new FX chart?

For example, if your main door is facing S. Then you plot your FX chart. You think that E is the best location/facing to put your main door. So if you move your main door there. Shouldn't you have to replot your FX chart to be facing E since the door have moved? But the new chart with now facing E might not have good stars in that sector. Then how? Move the door to N? Then have to plot a FX chart that is N facing... Then your FX Chart is different again.... Never ending.... rclxub.gif
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Hahaha.. that's what I said.. new technique lah. thumbup.gif

Malaysian really innovative lah... rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 01:54 AM

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Liu Fa?
Interesting theory. Seems very concern with the micro qi.
Sounds like something a friend of mine practice. Will ask him about it.

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