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ShionLim
post Jan 28 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Aug 4 2011, 03:39 PM)
after reading some of the postingt, i had to laugh out loud when i saw the comment 'the blind leading the blind'.

I think that's about correct the assumption. hahaha

If you believe in feng shui, need to prepare money ok guys. Internal feng shui, as long as got money can change one for eg. doors position, kitchen position etc.

External feng shui, u got so much money also cannot change. And in feng shui place the bigger part. If outside no chi, how can ur internal house have chi le? u do whatever placing oso cannot tap into chi one.

Better to consult the professionals.

On an extra note, I don't understand how the tree is planted 'in front of the house' meaning blocking the gate. Normally tree is planted at the side of the house... no meh? Really puzzled
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After reading this long posts... this post right into the point.

I see, most of people here got wrong perception about Feng Shui lah. haha.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 8 2012, 10:55 PM

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Worry more where your aircond and fan located, those WC or main door no need border.
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post Feb 8 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 8 2012, 11:02 PM)
Why say so?
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Aircond and Fan is the "LINK" to outside "SOURCE" to cause Feng Shui effect.

Location of toilet, location of kitchen or facing of main door doen't bring effect of Feng Shui.
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post Feb 9 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 05:22 PM)
Got a question to your theory. Feng Shui is suppose to be ancient rite? Last time no air cond and fan what they use for Feng Shui?
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hehe.. last time kitchen not using gas wor~

well.. you should find out what diff ancient kitchen compared to modern kitchen?

not the word KITCHEN that is feng shui, its the QUALITY of the kitchen that cause effect. tongue.gif


Added on February 9, 2012, 9:43 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 08:57 PM)
Haha,

I also wonder what school it come from. No need worry of kitchen, and main door. Wow define all aspect of Feng Shui.
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kakaka... that how I get banned by most of the English Feng Shui forum back in year 2003-2004. tongue.gif

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post Feb 9 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 09:59 PM)
The actual kitchen Feng shui concern is what is known as the "fire mouth" which is the access where they use to control the fire(air intake).

Mordern application of this (fire mouth) is the gas control knob.

Hope that answers your question of the diff between ancient kitchen and modern kitchen.

The Feng shui concern with the kitchen is the quality of Qi that is consumed(health related) hence the location and facing of the stove is critical.

PleasE explain your aircond theory.  whistling.gif
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Good answer, those are suit feng shui out there but not my.

Most feng shui only sees what they saw with their bare eyes, they not even see with their heart (meaning they never think lah).

Ancient stoves are huge, and there are more than 2 "fire mouth" (where ppl put in woods) . Will they put off fire after cook? Nope, they are not, they just take out the woods and cover remaining fire seed in there, that's to "fire up" when needed anytime. If the fire never off, heat still there and hot air up cold air down (if you study science lah), imagine there are more than 2 "fire mouth" and that create tubulance in the kitchen. That tubulance create affect in terms of Feng Shui.

Morden stoves, you need fire you just "tick" the knob ignite the gas, after cook you off everything, 30mins later it become cold. There are no tubulances if formed. Hence there is no effect to people. More over, the latest one is Electric stove, not even can see FIRE. tongue.gif

Feng Shui master said altar or the location of the table for "GOD" also big affect, they just dun know the same theory in ancient stove applied.

So.. about the aircond and fan...

Need I say further?

The blower of the aircond and fan take in air and blow out is a circular movement and that actually cause tubulance formed in the house or in a room, and that will affect the person who in the house.

Hehehe...

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post Feb 9 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:07 PM)
FS don't only see. Need to understand Chi, Chi flow, direction, and stars.

Anyway, they way you explain already know what knowledge you have.
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hahaha... no a problem.

those feng shui masters are act like what you act now lah..


Added on February 9, 2012, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:09 PM)
Don't understand what you are trying to say. You are saying that fan and air condition is bad? Because it causes turbulence?  rclxub.gif

So if my house have no aircond and fan then I must have perfect feng shui cause no turbulence.  thumbup.gif
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haha.. no I didn't said it is bad feng shui if aircond or fan created turbulance.

the location of the turbulance is create feng shui effect. biggrin.gif



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post Feb 9 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:17 PM)
What is the "feng shui effect"?

Good? Bad?
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depend on which direction or which Gua that turbulance located.
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post Feb 9 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:22 PM)
So if my house have no turbulence(no fan or air cond) then by your logic then my house have no feng shui? hmm.gif
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that's internal, all house affected by outside environment.

and.. those house without fan or aircond surely have a lot of windows.. windows is another "mouth" that will cause turbulance when air flow in and out. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:27 PM)
When a house don't have good chi coming in, no matter where you place your so call turbulance (BTW is turbulence) is still a bad house.

And if a house don't have a good door to capture the chi, where you put the turbulence is also useless.

Bishop, no wonder our friend only got few shops and some houses only. Maybe he did not have good A/C and Fan in his house.
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hahaha... how you know QI is not coming in to house?

hahaha.. and.. all QI comming in to the house like Lion Dance come in thru the MAIN DOOR? So.. you are telling me QI able to choose which is MAIN DOOR which is NOT MAIN DOOR? rclxms.gif


Added on February 9, 2012, 11:34 pm
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:31 PM)
If window is a mouth, then wouldn't a door also be a mouth since it also let's air in and out. But you said earlier that the main door is not important in your feng shui...  blink.gif

How does the outside Environment affect my house?
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Yes, main door is not important.

You won sleep with your main door open let the air flow in and out right? smile.gif

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post Feb 9 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:37 PM)
Did I say Main Door? I say door only.

BTW, Door is not air tight. So if its close it does not mean chi not coming in.
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Yea, sorry.. my mistake take your DOOR and MAIN DOOR.

So I rephrase, QI only comming in to the house thru DOOR? can not comming in to the house thru WINDOW?

See.. to your latest comment..

You said QI comming in thru DOOR GAP as well?

If Qi is not Lion Dance comming in to the house thru open door only.. Qi can comming in to the house as long as there is GAP or HOLE or MOUTH right? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:38 PM)
So how does Qi come in the house?
Think you said earlier that aircond was the link between out side and inside. So Qi is coming through the aircond?
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1 question...

Why must QI comming in to the house to take effect?

Most feng shui master never see how Qi form, but they just know how Qi flow.


Turbulance cause by the aircond or fan is a link, a link to the external turbulance, if both Internal turbulance and External turbulance linked in 1 line in particular Gua, the effect will be EMPLIFIED!



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post Feb 10 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 9 2012, 11:49 PM)
Maybe you can advice your friend who doing house renovation something like this "if you think Door is not important".  Put a door in a bad location, and open the windows in good location. See what happen after some years.

Chi flows everywhere, we need to know how easy the chi can flow in.
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hahaha... your bad area not equal to my bad area mar..

may be your bad area is my good area, for example.. NW is good to my feng shui but not to you this year right?

haha.. but we do shared the same it is bad in SE, but you dun know how bad it is if you got internal turbulance and external turbulance linked up. smile.gif


Added on February 10, 2012, 12:07 am
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 9 2012, 11:59 PM)
Qi DO NOT choose which is the main door. YOU choose which is the main door.

We select the main door based on which Qi you want to receive. the architectural or the house main door might not be the door we use to come in from. If that is the small door at the side of your house then that is the main door. The main door in feng shui is the door that you use.

As for Qi coming through the window, unless you come in to your house through the window then we use it as the reference, if not then it is not critical.
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hahaha... so Qi can follow your order and Qi know which is your main door?

Qi must enter the house thru main door like Lion Dance? Lion Dance enter the house according to your direction when they visit your house mar.. right?

So, you mark a big X in front of MAIN DOOR so that Qi able to recognise it?

And Qi intellgent enough to "SEE" which color door to enter or to effect? biggrin.gif

Or qi just flow like wind anywhere and everywhere?

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post Feb 10 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:22 AM)
Let me try to make it clearer.

The "DOOR" that we "USE" is the "Main Door". The other doors that we don't use is not the main door because we don't use it. Get it?  doh.gif

(and to answer your question why the other doors is not the main door, is because we DON'T USE it to go in and out of the house. Hence NOT the main door)  blush.gif

No need to put a big X unless you forgot which door you suppose to come in from... whistling.gif
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hahaha... yea.. that what I ask lor..

why must Qi follow your decision which door to enter house?

why must Qi follow you which door to enter the house?

why must Qi enter house only thru MAIN DOOR?

how you know Qi enter house thru MAIN DOOR but not thru window or side door or GAP or HOLE some where?

if door that you used it consider MAIN DOOR, so how about you in and out at the back of your house? that's called BACK DOOR? so Qi won't enter thru there? tongue.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:32 AM)
So without Qi coming in the house, what feng shui are you doing in the house without Qi? Your Gua is a type of Qi....
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You see...

when the 1st conceptual about Qi wrong, it wrong all the way to the end.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flow like Water.. water flow from high to low, why feng shui master said Qi will enter house thru main door even the door is 2 or 3 steps higher than the outside land? Logic mei? kakaka...


Again, you missed the question bellow, here I post again.


QUOTE(ShionLim @ Feb 9 2012, 11:56 PM)
1 question...

Why must QI comming in to the house to take effect?

Most feng shui master never see how Qi form, but they just know how Qi flow.
Turbulance cause by the aircond or fan is a link, a link to the external turbulance, if both Internal turbulance and External turbulance linked in 1 line in particular Gua, the effect will be EMPLIFIED!
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Added on February 10, 2012, 12:46 amOh.. I missed.

Feng Shui master said.. Qi flowing on the road like water doesn't create effect.. does feng shui master said when the Qi start effect?

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post Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)
Yes if you "USE" the back door to go in and out of your house then that is considered the 'Main Door', why? because 'YOU' as the occupant of the house enters the house from there then so does Qi. Why it does not come in the other doors, is because you don't open them.

Why do they not come in the Gap or Hole? It does but an insignificant amount comes through therefore not critical.

In feng shui The house is a container of Qi. The feng shui quality of the house is determined by the quality of Qi it receives and it receive Qi through the main door(which is the door that YOU use to go in and out). That is why sometime you see ppl use the side door to go in and out of the house because the main door is not receiving good Qi.

I think your argument is getting childish...  blink.gif  Please use some logic to explain your principles.
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Aiyoo... you ask me use logic aarh?

I asked so many questions all about logic wor..

ok.. BACK DOOR also MAIN DOOR. So you need 2 sets of FX charts as well?

Feng Shui master said... Wind blow Qi Flow..

So when wind reach the house, Qi and Wind split, wind can enter house as long as there is open space, but Qi only enter house thru MAIN DOOR that peoples used to enter and exit the house? This LOGIC shown, QI follow where peoples go?

According to your said, Qi enter house thru Gap and Hole, but insignificant amount comes thru not critical. So, people just close the door after enter lah, so no Qi can come in, never mind door in bad location or not already lor.. right? biggrin.gif


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post Feb 10 2012, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

"Qi is dispersed by the wind, gathers by the boundaries of water" hence Wind & Water (Feng Shui)

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I see.. so Feng Shui to you is Wind and Water which is separate element.

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

The concept of Qi flows like water is to illustrate that Qi flows. But ultimately Qi is dispersed by the wind. Hence yes Qi will flow through the main door even if it is 2 or 3 steps higher.
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hehehe... so Qi dispersed by the wind.. where wind blow Qi goes accordingly, am I right? So, Qi goes everywhere Wind goes. smile.gif

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 12:46 AM)

Ask yourself this, a house with the door 2 or 3 steps higher that the outside land and a house with 8 or 9 steps higher than the land outside, which will receive more Qi?
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This question you asked a wrong guy liao lor... you not able to get answer you want. My answer is depend on the TURBULANCE.
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post Feb 10 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM)
And to answer your question on when does Qi take effect, it take effect when you are there long enough for it to affect you.

Qi on the road does not affect you because you are not stationary long enough for it to affect you.  doh.gif
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Correct, correct.

If I enter the house and close the door immediately I enter, so does that affect?

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:07 AM)
What is long enough?
You sleep 6-8 hours in your room, then that will affect you.
You in your house for 8-10hours then that will affect you. If you never ever go back to your house, then perfect feng shui in a house that you are not in is useless cause you are not there long enough for it to take effect.  blink.gif
You work for 8 hours a day in your office, that will affect you.
The longer that you stay in a place, then the more the Qi will affect you. That simple.  whistling.gif
The less time, the less effect... rclxub.gif

Make sense? sweat.gif
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Yes, correct.. that make sense. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:17 AM)
How many times you want me to say, the door that you USE is the main door. Regardless if it is the side door, the middle door, the back door, the left side a bit to the center door, it doesn't matter. The door that YOU mainly use to enter the house is the MAIN DOOR. get it?
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Ok ok, I get it.. any door that people used to enter and exit the house consider MAIN DOOR. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:17 AM)
As for your FX chart, I assume you mean flying star chart, that uses the BUILDING FACING not the main door facing.  Please get your theory right.
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oh.. so new technique huh? Building use FX method and main door use other method... main door use BaZai?


Added on February 10, 2012, 1:27 am
QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:22 AM)
Item 1. Yes. Wind and water are two separate elements that affect Qi. Wind moves Qi, water gathers Qi.

Item 2. Yes. Qi is everywhere. It is the quality of Qi is different.

Item 3. Don't understand your turbulence concept. Can I ask which school of thought it comes from?
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I use Liu Fa. blush.gif

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post Feb 10 2012, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:38 AM)
It is always building facing.  blink.gif  If you use door facing then if you move the door to the side then would you have a new FX chart?

For example, if your main door is facing S. Then you plot your FX chart. You think that E is the best location/facing to put your main door. So if you move your main door there. Shouldn't you have to replot your FX chart to be facing E since the door have moved? But the new chart with now facing E might not have good stars in that sector. Then how? Move the door to N? Then have to plot a FX chart that is N facing... Then your FX Chart is different again.... Never ending.... rclxub.gif
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Hahaha.. that's what I said.. new technique lah. thumbup.gif

Malaysian really innovative lah... rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Feb 10 2012, 01:54 AM)
Liu Fa?
Interesting theory. Seems very concern with the micro qi.
Sounds like something a friend of mine practice. Will ask him about it.
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Micro Qi? hmm.gif

You friend practice Liu Fa? haha.. cool!


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