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aressandro10
post Jul 16 2011, 09:53 AM

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Harimau Malaya tagih sokongan padu peminat


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BARISAN negara giat berlatih sebagai persediaan menentang Liverpool di Stadium Nasional, Bukit Jalil petang ini.

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NADA kecewa disuarakan jurulatih skuad bola sepak kebangsaan, Datuk K. Rajagobal menjelang aksi persahabatan menentang Liverpool di Stadium Nasional, Bukit Jalil petang ini. Bukan kerana pengurus Liverpool, Kenny Dalglish sudah pulang awal ke England tetapi Rajagobal jelas berasa kecewa dengan sikap peminat yang hadir ketika Harimau Malaya tewas 0-4 kepada Arsenal, Rabu lalu.

“Saya tak faham apa yang mereka (peminat) mahu. Saya fikirkan mereka sudah cukup bijak. Mereka tak boleh samakan skuad kebangsaan dengan kelab Liga Perdana England. “Kita amat memerlukan sokongan peminat pada saat genting menghadapi pusingan kedua Kelayakan Piala Dunia 2014 menentang Singapura. “Sebagai rakyat Malaysia dan menetap di Malaysia, bukan saya nak kata kita tak boleh sokong kelab Liga Perdana England.

“Tetapi kenapa tak boleh sehari sahaja datang ke stadium pakai jersi Malaysia? Saya harap esok (hari ini) ramai yang datang dengan jersi Malaysia, terutamanya warna biru,” kata Rajagobal ketika ditemui pada sesi latihan di Stadium Nasional petang semalam. Pada aksi bertemu Arsenal Rabu lalu, majoriti stadium dipenuhi peminat yang hadir dengan jersi merah dan tambah mengecewakan Rajagobal, anak-anak buahnya diejek setiap kali melakukan kesilapan.

“Bila Arsenal terlepas peluang, mereka tidak diejek tetapi bila kita buat silap, kena ejek. Mereka tak boleh nak banding pemain kita dengan pemain lawan. Arse- nal pun mampu tewaskan pasu- kan sehebat Barcelona. “Jadi saya sangat berharap warga Malaysia yang hadir ke stadium esok (hari ini) memberi sokongan padu kepada sku- ad negara sendiri,” tegas Raja- gobal.

Selepas sesi latihan petang semalam, Rajagobal mengesahkan dua pemainnya, Aidil Zafuan Radzak dan Norshahrul Idlan Talaha tidak dapat diturunkan akibat kecederaan buku lali dan hamstring. “Saya sudah panggil dua pengganti iaitu Ismail Faruqi Ashari dan Izzaq Faris Ramlan semalam (kelmarin) dan akan mencuba mereka. Jika memuaskan, mereka mungkin diselit untuk skuad ke Singapura,” ujarnya.

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post Jul 17 2011, 02:52 AM

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oh welll... the 6 goals conceded is the biggest pink elephant in the room that you just cannot ignore even if you want to. kinda like an annoying splinter stuck deep inside you heart..


but how played soo soo soo much better than against arsenal. we actuallly pushed Liverpool to play this time. minus a dodgy penalty and 2 gifts of goals respectively from 2 of our beacon hope-for-the-future-young-starting centrebacks, we kinda match them...3-3..

the points that i want to highlight:-

1. whats up with us and giving penalties.. thats 5 in 3 games now..

2. safee salee is world class... and Singapore must be shivering now to think that he was only actually half fit during the match... wonder what happen after another week in Jalan Besar.

3. A free kick at the edge of the panalty area is almost a penalty now with Safiq Rahim laser guided free kick.

4. Glad to see Ismail Faruqi, Helmi Rameli, Izzaq Farris, Shahrizal Saad, Amirul Hadi and Mahali Jasuli had a good game to prove their points after previous negative snub from Rajagobal and/or fans.

5. All the goals the opponent scored in the second half are during our good patch which make us stunned and lose our shape and focus... a patch of 3 goals in 8 minutes ..... then while we are on our asscendancy to equalise, they score 2 goals in 4 minutes... need a lot of mental work to check why this happen.

6. i am glad that our national team is not booed.. infact our team is highly supported by the Liverpool fans... kudos to them for proving me wrong.

7. whats up with fadli Shas and muslim tag team mistake to allow the opponent to score... haiya...

8. 3 of the 6 goals liverpool scored are properly built up goals. the 3 other are our (and ref) gifts.

9. Badrol bakhtiar should really lose his elite status in the national team fist team now. he should move to Kelantan next season to rejuvenate his play. Chanturu also did not have a good game as well.

10. Izzaq Faris and Sahrizal Saad is the better candidate to partner Safee Sali in attack at Singapore. Opportunity is running out for Hadi Yahya and Fakri Saarani.

11. I fullly missed the ultras today. All those 80,000 foreign football fans role-players already ready their fat cheek to be slapped but somehow there are no handpalm to do it. Like being in a limbo.

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post Jul 17 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jul 17 2011, 06:40 PM)
kan aku dah kata dorang ni fans stadium astro je

tak faham apa beza dan cara nak pergi stadium sebenarnya.

how to 'respect' your team
baru first time dua tiga kali pergi stadium, mcmtulah
komplen air mahal lah, parking jauh la

(based on facebook)

japgi ada orang butthurt.
bzzzzzz

please print screen my comment: aku janji yang malaysia vs singapore ni akan ada wujud orang yang pakai baju england/ spain/ manchester/ chelsea

etc

sbb nye "alaaa kitaorang cheer national team jugak" kah kah kah
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bukti penyokong2 yang pakai baju liverpool ni bebtol sokong malaysia hanya boleh lihat bila match vs singapore nanti... kalau stadium tak full macam match vs Liverpool maka betollah apa yang dicakap oleh coach rajagopal itu.
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post Jul 17 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(aweeff @ Jul 17 2011, 11:39 PM)
Bro Aressdandro, I'll cut my penis! if Bukit jalil full house... eh tak payah full house 100k tu banyak sangat, 70k pun jadilah.... Kalau cecah 80k memang aku potong sungguh..    thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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ko jangan areef. ko tak dgr ker derang sorak time malaysia score tu. bergema stadium. derang memang bebtol sokong mesia woo. sepenuh hati wa cakap lu. kompom datang nye time match Malaysia. tiket lagi murah tuu. campur dgn yang sokong mesia tapi pakai jersi arsenal dan chelsea lagi. memang gelembungla stadium bukit jalil kita weii..... whistling.gif

tapi memang agak sadis ko punye statement sweat.gif

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post Jul 17 2011, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 17 2011, 11:48 PM)
including Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea fans.
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yes. including those fans also our Malaysia world cup qualifying match will only be half full at best eventhough an individual training exhibition match for respective team can fetch a full house.

where did all those 'support malaysia eventhough wear other people's jersey' went rclxub.gif only when we score or win only support yeah... wink.gif

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post Jul 18 2011, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 17 2011, 11:59 PM)
only time will tell, wait for the Singapore game and we'll see.
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i base this on experience from previous Malaysia matches. i willing to be stand corrected if i am wrong. But i am not convinced...wink.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jul 18 2011, 12:32 AM)
Aku x mengharap sgt ramai, diorang pegi stadium sebab lawan team epl, alang2 Msia score Sorak skali. Tapi kalo kena hari, mungkin lebih ramai compare lawan Taiwan. Even nak compare dgn local cup pun lagi ramai yg dtg FA cup final ke, Piala Malaysia final.
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takdelah... base pade tahap emo fan liverpool dgn kata2 RG yang 'salah' tu, aku 'yakin' fan liverpool memang sokong malaysia bebtol di hati. bukan alang2 Mesia score saja.... kompem sumer 80k 'penyokong Malaysia' kat Anfield aritu akan datang Bukit Jalil hari khamis nanti.. whistling.gif

derang memang commited untuk sorak bila mesia score. camne derang nak sorak bila mesia score kalau derang tak datang stadium kan.... wink.gif

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post Jul 18 2011, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 18 2011, 12:55 AM)
seriously, whats ur problem with the liverpool fans?  doh.gif
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because deep inside i am a MAN U fan.......... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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not confined to liverpool only la. its so just happen that their match was played just yesterday. Belive me all of them fairly received the same sticks from me if they goes against my national team. wink.gif





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post Jul 18 2011, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(ijamz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:58 AM)
pergi zoo.... sambil pakai maskot rimau nk tgk rimau.... pastu pg tgk tupai kene marah..pastu tgk monyet kene marah...

so..kenapa masuk zoo pakai maskot? ..

errr.... aku cuba bermetafora tp aku sendiri x paham ..keh keh keh
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...bro .. sweat.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 01:18 AM

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Rivalry across the causeway.

just some help for people who are clueless about Malaysia-Singapore rivalry wink.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 18 2011, 01:09 AM)
cool2.gif haha... just couldnt stand all the nonsense we liverpool fans are getting for apparently, 'not supporting' our own national team.
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what i want to say is, whats important in 'supporting' is how what you do effect players. You dont really effect player by keeping your support in your heart only. they dont have x-ray machine nor mind reading mutancy to read you mind.

Even if all 80k strong crowd overflowing with 'support' for the national team in their heart, but when the players came out of the tunnel seeing all of them drape in the opponent's shirt, there are not really much REAL literal 'supporting' happened. They have no choice but to dig deep inside themselve without the help of the so called 'supporters'.

Extreme supporters would synchronise tifo, movement, drums or chants to invigorate the players. normal people would only wear the shirt with the colour of the team for the players to see. if you cant even do that, what kind of 'supporting' are you talking about.

Even if you supporting both teams, you have to see which teams NEED your support the most. Does liverpool need more support to beat the mighty world champion Malaysia or do Malaysia need it more to beat lowly amateur club Liverpool? wink.gif

Dont just think about yourself and your need or your desire. real supporters prioritize what the team thinks. and if you find it hard to do that, Rajagobal already helped to summarize it for you .. wink.gif


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post Jul 18 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(accab @ Jul 18 2011, 04:27 AM)
Tak abis2 lg rupenyer.nak menyalak jer ko.nak bangkang org jer ko.nak kondem kan org no1.aku rasa ko ader PHD lah.yerlah ko sorang jer lah yg betul.ko sorang jer menyokong pasukan malaysia sepenuh hati jiwa raga ko.ko boleh plak xray semua player malaysia.ko tahu semua player masia tak suka bila lihat rakyat masia pakai jersey liverpool.baru interview beberapa player mas.aku nak tanya ko pg tak stadium masa perlawanan arsenal dgn liverpool nie.sekurang kurangnyer bila mas gol mereka bersorak gembira bersama sama semasa divstadium.bukannyer dorang boo pun bila mas gol.no 2 ko ader sponcer jersey mas kat mereka yg dtg ari tur.kalau ko sponcer boleh lah ko kecewa dia org x pakai jersey ko sponcer.duit mereka.hak mereka.aku rasa sebelum nie ko ader kata ini hanyalah perlawanan sarkis.so wat aper nak amik tahu.bg aku perlawanan nie sungguh bermakna.banyakbpengalaman boleh dapat dlam 2 game nie.terutama dah tahubpertahanan masia macam mana.aku harap x ader lg crite pasal nie.
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kondem org ker. Aku rase statement aku sume issues based jer. Takde aku kutuk personal orang pon. Aku ada bende nak cakap kat Mikeshashime aku cakap jer la. Kalau ko tak suke aku menyalak , ko pergi quote tu kenapa? Ko punye salak, bangkang dan kondem lagi bukan main aku tgk. takper plak wink.gif

Aku pergi stadium ari tu. dah banyak pon aku komen pasal Liverpool sorak time Malysia score. So? Ko rase team Malaysia rasa 100% happy dan motivated ker kalau bila dah score je sorak ? Sokong bila score dan menang je senangla. Orang nak sokong bila tgh down. Lawan Liverpool ni beb. Friendly atau tak friendly, public perception judge serata dunia dok memerhati jugak. The team need all the help they can get.

Memang aku akui ramai peminat liverpool ari tu dalam hati memang sokong mesia. aku impress even. Kudos to them. But still the best statement of support is the shirt that you wear. Or more precisely, the colour of the crowd that visible from the player and coaches eyes. its a powerful statement. The rise and fall of the team can depend a lot on you.

Kalau aku ade strong opinion about something, aku akan cakap jer. Unless ko boleh berpakat dgn mod nak ban aku, there is not much you can do about it. kalau ko salak, bangkang dan kondem balik sama jer la kan so aper ko nak complain? So kalau ko nak reply, reply jer la issue aper yang aku cakap, jangan complain the right for me say it in the first place.

Kalau ko tak suka aku menyalak, jangan reply post ni.


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post Jul 18 2011, 11:02 AM

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in any case, aku harap sumer fan liverpool yang gembira btol bila malaysia score hari tu datang bila lawan Singapore.

Takde makna gembira score time exhibition match, tapi time match btol tak datang.

Tu je. ni bukan isu jersey lagi.


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QUOTE(December 1n death @ Jul 18 2011, 10:58 AM)
Sila abaikan bab jersey atau sapa nak pakai baju apa.Sila tumpukan terhadap permain pertahanan MALAYSiA.kING RAJA telah cuba duo HARiMAU MUDA tetapi tetap fail.Tak alert serta lambat.2nd half try combo kelantan ( Khairul fahmi,Rizal Fahmi serta Farisham Ismail ).Totally out.Sedangkan pengulas menyatakan mereka kubu bawah yang paling kental.Jenuh teman memikiornya..Sapa la yang paling layak untuk jadi jaga kat bawah...
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nak tukar masa sekarang ni memang dah takle buat aper. Kita dan invest byk match time untuk derang learn from their mistake. Kita tak ada masa nak labur dgn orang lain lain. we have no choice but to stick with Muslim and Fadli. Rizal fahmi memang out. Farisham OK sikit. But still too unproven for internatioanal level. Need more games.


Added on July 18, 2011, 11:24 am
QUOTE(tgmape @ Jul 18 2011, 11:02 AM)
bro...aku paham perasaan ko. Tapi kalau nk besarkan isu ini agak melampau.ni exhibition game, kalah menang xde makna. even players Malaysia pon tau liverpool, arsenal n Chelsea tu play for fitness only. diorg dtg bukan tiap2 bulan pon, tiap2 tahun pon x comfirm dtg. Fans yg dtg pon sokong malaysia pe, aku tgk kat tv pon dpt dengar diorg sorak malaysia.
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of course sorak bila score tu automatik response la. bagus. bukan tak bagus.

Tapi aku terkilan sikit time selain score, SSFC try to build up support dengan lagu "Barisan Kita" tapi susah nak dapat full response dekat are keliling aku duduk. time sorak "Malaysia" each time Malaysia try pon tak ramai. tapi ade la jugak. Kudos dan terima kasih kepada fan malaysia dan liverpool yang follow group aku nyanyi barisan kita dekat area corner seat 58 kuning first tier belah belakang. Terima kasih juga kepada group SSFC kerana usaha dan sumbangan anda. Tapi pelik plak bila aku baca kat 'thread lain', group gendang ni dianggap annoying plak.

Mintak maaf dan pujian jugak kepada group penyokong liverpool depan aku yang tahan jer abuse aku bagi dekat team korang. couple belakang aku pon sampai kene pindah tempat. Time sokong mesia memang aku naik sheikh sikit. tapi at least aku bangga abang aku, fan MU dari belajar kat England tahun 90an, dan first time turun match yang Malaysia main pon turut naik sheikh sama dengan aku. Anak sedara aku pon dah start tahu dan tanya2 pasal pemain malaysia. bagus bagus. bangga aku.

again aku harap ramai lagi fan liverpool yang dah te'buka' tu datang time match lawan Singapore.

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post Jul 18 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sawanishi @ Jul 18 2011, 11:28 AM)
Shud izzaq play pair wt safee if mat yo still x fit? Leh thn gk ms lwn liberpul aritu.
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yap izzaq and Sharizal saad actually did good. better than fakri and hadi.
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my rating on the players...

Excellant

FW - Safee Sali - 27 - Pelita Jaya (IDN)
RM - Amirulhadi Zainal - 24 - Selangor
AM - Safiq Rahim © - 24 - Selangor
AM - Ismail Faruqi- 24 - Terengganu

Good

Sharbinee Allawee - 24 - Terengganu
RB - Mahali Jasuli - 22 - Harimau Muda A
RB - Helmi Remeli - 26 - Terengganu
LM - S. Kunanlan - 24 - Negeri Sembilan
Shahrizal Saad - 23 - Johor FC
izzq Farris Ramlan - 21 - Harimau Muda A

Average

CB - Farisham Ismail - 26 - Kelantan
DM - Amar Rohidan - 24 - Kedah
DM - K. Gurusamy - 22 - Harimau Muda A
DM - Shakir Shaari - 24 - Kelantan
RM - Ashaari Shamsuddin - 25 - Terengganu

Poor

GK - Khairul Fahmi Che Mat - 22 - Kelantan
CB - Muslim Ahmad - 22 - Harimau Muda A
CB - Fadhli Shas - 20 - Harimau Muda A
CB - Rizal Fahmi Rosid - 25 - Kelantan
LB - Asraruddin Putra - 24 - Selangor
LB - Azmi Muslim - 24 - Kedah
RM - S. Chanturu - 23 - Kelantan
FW - Abdul Hadi Yahya - 26 - Terengganu
RM - Baddrol Bakhtiar - 23 - Kedah
FW - Fakri Saarani - 21 - Negeri Sembilan

NOT AVAILABLE :

GK - Nasril Nourdin - 25 - Perak
CB - Aidil Zafuan - 23 - Negeri Sembilan
FW - Norshahrul Idlan Talaha - 24 - Kelantan

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post Jul 18 2011, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 18 2011, 12:06 PM)
What bloody joke... Arsenal fans 'boo-ing' our national team is never raised, but by simply wearing Liverpool colours, we get condemn.

nice Malaysian mentality. Well done.
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i dunno about every body else. But rest assure that both of them get the same treatment from me.
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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Jul 18 2011, 12:06 PM)
ak terkejut dia ni tersenarai dalam penjaga gol ketiga, mana pergi keeper yang main lawan man u dulu tuh...keeper tuh ok ape
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farizal marlias i snot even the first team for Negeri Sembilan now... he is really in the rut... i hope some coach some team some where can help him to revitalise his career...

nasril did good actually for perak. but compare to regular custodian Sharbinee and Khairul Fahmi, some gap in class do visible.


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 18 2011, 12:18 PM)
then sudahlah tue bro. If u want people to come and support our Harimaus then you should stop pointing fingers and demand people
go to the stadium or whatnot.

Orang seronok2 dpt tengok hero for the first time just let it go la. After all, kan Arsenal, Liverpool and chelsea are our guest. We should make them feel welcomed.
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i can see the finger pointing part, but i cant demand they to come to the stadium rclxub.gif


seriously, from the way they jump and cheer at the stadium when we scored, i just can FEEL the support and love from the Liverpool fans to our national team. I have no doubt whatsoever every one of them will come to the stadium this 28th of July 2011 at Stadium Nasional Bukit Jalil wearing the right t shirt colour. The stadium will be bloated like a dead whale i tell you. nod.gif

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 18 2011, 12:41 PM)
while i do agree with u that the majority of any fans who came for any EPL team vs malaysia will not show up for other malaysian games, its not right to condemn people for making their choices. Having said that, I hope at least 20-40k people will make it to the Msia v S'pore game.
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its because they have a choice that i voice my opinion about it. i would not blame them for not attending if there are public crackdown and road blocks that systematically prevents them from making the choice to attend.

we live to be judged by our choices.

i have no problem with their choices. But what i have a problem is when they categorically condemn the national coached request for more support for the National team by using 'we also cheered when Malaysia scored' argument as the main point but then choose to give the world cup qualifier a miss. Thats a totally contradictory attitude and make all the allegations towards towards Rajagobal moot and unjustified is it not?

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 18 2011, 03:19 PM)
aressando good intention at other thread was misunderstood. If they follow this thread they will know aressandro always encourage Malaysian to support the local league and national team no matter whether they are Arsenal, Liverpool, MU, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest or Japan football fan. I must say among many of die hard Malaysian football fans at this thread, aressandro10 is the most lenient among them and he still use 'soft' words and approach.
But it nice to read Duke Red follow the National team again.
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QUOTE(VerdictReview @ Jul 18 2011, 03:26 PM)
Yup, his intention is good but some took his words and turn into negative side. Pity to him.  sad.gif
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dont worry bro. Part and parcel of the game. i choosed to post in that thread so i have to live with the consequence.

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