Hello folks,

Currently wanna paint my terrace house with paint.
But stuck with sisson/Nippon/ICI paint choice.

Just ask opinion of people who have used the above paint
and pls share? Tq.

I assume you are referring to internal walls? I only used ICI before (and now) so I can only comment on ICI. I used ICI Pearl Glo - rose white and was very happy with Pearl Glo. It was quite easy to clean and last for years. Now I am using Pentalite Easy Clean as Pentalite is about 20-30% cheaper than Pearl Glo. Of course Pentalite is not as reflective as Pearl Glo but now I have very bright LED so it is not an issue.

Hmmm thanks bro...
I now holding the ICI broshure and seen the color
U mention.
It's for exterior and interior... What price for that
Glo and pentalite?

These are some of the prices that I got earlier (abt 5 mths ago) You may need to check with ths shops for their latest pricing.

For internal walls:

Nippon Odour-less - RM 120/ 5 lit
Nippon Spot-less - RM 100/ 5 lit
Nippon Satin Glo - RM 90/ 5 lit
Nippon 3 in 1 - RM 110/ 5 lit
Nippon Vinilex Fresh RM 88/ 5 lit

Jotun Stax Matt - RM 80/ 5 lit
Jotun Majestic - RM 95/ 5 lit
Jotun Majestic Optima - RM 110/ 5 lit
Jotun Pearl Silk - RM 95/ 5 lit
Jotun Majestic Matt - RM 95/ 5 lit

For Doors, timber frames, grilles, etc

Jotun Gardex Gloss & Matt - RM 110/ 5 lit

I do not use ICI paint as they are very much overprice. Quality is also not on par with others.
About 10 years ago, maybe they are one of the better paint. Unfortunately, it is not so since these few years...
I used ICI paint 10 years ago but have since revert to using Nippon & Jotun.

My 2 sen...

some updated ICI retails price (standard color)
1. pearl glo
- RM 95 / 5 lit
- RM 180 / 10 lit

2. Weathershield
- RM 115 / 5 lit
- RM 210 / 10 lit

can ask for discount if buy in bulk.

where to get pearl glo @ RM95 /5 lit ?

i went 1-2 shops at Cheras area... also quote me RM95 / 5 lit.. perhaps i'm ask for white color la..
somethn wrong?

I heard that price of paints were going up soon when I bought some cans of paint 3-4 months ago

mine RM5 more the seller told me they receive the price increase from AkzoNobel and wanted to charge me extra 10

everything going up except our salary

Personally, I'm more towards Nippon for interior.
If you have a budget, go for Nippon Air Care for indoor. Price around RM120/5L or RM36/1L. It's the only paint in the market that can absorb formaldehyde (don't know marketing gimmick or not, but I kinda believe it ). The finishing is Eggshell (which is my preference) & washable. I'm satisfied so far & no smell even during painting.

For exterior, both ICI & Nippon offer almost same benefit. It's more on personal preference. Again, if budget permit go for the one can reflect solar heat. So, you can reduce heat penetration through walls but still your roof is the main source for heat.

don't try skk paint,wasting money. more than 5 layer still can see shadow of old paint.

probably you thin them too much with water. Most manufacturer recommend not more then 10% if I am not mistaken

what is skk paint?

skk paint from japan no water added, open and use only. too watery compare to ICI paint. machine mixed to match ICI color.

recently repaint i try colourland..not sure how good it is..but i like it more than my previous ici pearl glo in term of quality..

ICI paint quality has gone down in recent years. I have also stopped using them

So ICI paint quality is not justified by it's price?
Btw bought Nippon weather bond 20litre n satin glo.

This is from my personal experience.
I would avoid using those satin glo, pearl glo, etc. Those that gives a gloss finish to walls.
Using this type of paint will expose all the unevenness and defects in the wall.

So, unless your wall is very evenly finished and no patching up, etc the it would look nice.
Alternatively be prepare to skim coat the whole wall before painting with these gloss finish paints.
Even if you skim coat the wall, the finishing must be even, else it is back to square one...

how much u get?

I jz get mine:
Exterior
Weatherbond solarreflect RM460/20 lit
Nippon Acrykuc 5170 Sealer RM250 / 20lit

Interior
Nippon Perfect White RM240 / 20lit
Nippon Satin Glo RM270/ 18lit
Nippon vinilex 5500 wall sealer RM150 / 18lit

Nippon 9000 GLoss finish RM99/ 5lit

20 lit weatherbond RM330 ( I think no solarreflect....or izzit the same?)
5 lit weatherbond RM120
5 lit Satin Glo RM105
9k Gloss finish 5lite RM110

oh btw I'm in East Malaysia... price sure

if we buy the paint our self, what is the normal charges for labour to paint the interior and exterior ? lets said 20 x 65 double story ?? if we wanted each room to be different color the labour cost still the same right cox we are the 1 supplying the paint ? cox 1 of my contractor said different color he wan charge more ? puzzle

That what most painter will tell you that they will charge more if each room to be different colour. They will have to wash their paint brush each time they shift from one room's colour to another colour. Just slightly more work.
Of course, if the whole house's walls are of the same colour, they would be able to finish their work faster; which equates to money for them

no wonder la if DIY paint my self dunno would it turn out to be a nightmare ? hahaha since i never paint before lol what is the average labour cost to paint the interior and exterior of 20 x 65 ft house ? with let say 2 different color for interior and 1 color for whole exterior ?

Are you a DIY person? Are you fussy on the outcome? If you have never done any house painting before, this could be daunting task to be undertaken by one person alone. Not forgetting having to paint the 1st floor exterior

Depends on your expectation, there are many different type of painters. Some can quote you cheap and their workmanship
There are some painter who may charge slightly more, but their workmanship is quote good. They will take care of the floor, door knobs, etc
The amount of work will also depend on the present condition of your walls. paint quality and surface....

So, why don't you ask for quotations just for painting labour alone?

Previously, I have used at least 7 different colours just for the interior walls alone. Different colours for each bedroom, living and dining. Overall the paint cost is more as you will end up with so much of paint leftover at the end of the day. After that, there is another problem of having to store the leftover paint. You may need them for touch ups later....

you got any contact to share for the labour painting only ? ya that is what i think of also therefore i narrow it to exterior 1 type color (brown) Interior 3 type color, Kitchen (not sure yet maybe light orange or any suggestion color that could increase appetite ), room (light blue) the rest white.

any suggestion on the color i selected ?

Most painter will be able to quote you for labour only. Some house owners are lazy/ don't have the time to buy the paint themselves, thus getting the painter to include the paint.

If you don't mind the quality of the painting, you could always ask your wet work contractor to get his workers to paint for you. But then you should not expect too much la....

I think i will check-out your reco painter first... if can afford i shall go with it if not i have to accept the fate lol

I was being charge 3k for a condo (interior) painting, using nippon... seem expensive.

how big is your condo ? inclusive the paint ?

1100sf, yes, include the paint - roughly 7 different colors

kelvin, since u also knew orange increase appetite, juz stick on orange, its a very nice colour... use some striking orange matching with very very light orange... but normally striking orange,red,yellow are more expensive... anything can drop by to ask me... =P
i'm doing colour consultant at SIN TUCK WOH HARDWARE PJ SDN. BHD.
address is : 113, Jalan 20/7, Paramount Garden, 46300, PJ
phone number is : 03-78765045/03-78763049
look for me, i'm VINCENT !! =)
we supply lots type of paints and painter/contractor too...

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Added on July 15, 2011, 1:24 amdon let them inclusive the paints, buy urself, they tell u nippon but nippon also have first grade, second grade and third grade, which (SATIN GLO, SPOT-LESS, ODOUR-LESS, VINILEX FRESH, VINILEX EASYWASH, 3-IN-1) are consider first grade, Q-GLO is consider second grade, and MATEX GOLD, MATEX are consider third grade, but it is all NIPPON PAINTS... i have Indonesian painter with good skill they charge about 2k for condo exclusive paints, actually paints u are going to buy also not too much, normally 1 room use about 6 litre, feel free to drop me a call or come my shop to look for me ---> VINCENT 0166146634

This post has been edited by zhihow: Jul 15 2011, 01:31 AM

hmm but 3k for 7 colors and labour i think ok also hahahaha

any special discount u gonna give us Vincent ? hahahah

emm... come PJ to find me... sure special discount for u... =)

hi Vincent, i need some experts advise.




i would like to paint my plaster ceiling with sky blue color Nippon paint. What type should i choose ??

another 1 things is my wall is now skim coat ? should i choose 3in1 or satin glo ???

then what type should choose for my undercoat for ceiling and wall ??

Please advise .



edmond

I tried Murobond for the exterior colour seems nice. They have very good earthy beige colour range.

For interior, as I want a fairly whitish paint, I went for ICI Pentalite Easy Clean instead - Lily white

Initially, we thought of using Nippon Paint. But my contractor eventually advised otherwise as based on their previous experience, the quality of the paint seems not very consistent.

This post has been edited by toffeeman: Jul 21 2011, 11:55 AM

i used colorland and jotun.....
colorland is cheaper but the quality is comparable...

How is the Murobond? Are these product from Australia?

im kinda interested in using murobond paint as well for my interior..mainly for my living room...but apparently if u get one of their appointed painters to do the work, its expensive...anyone can give an estimation price?

ur plaster ceiling can use vinilex easywash, if ur wall skim coat dy then can use both, 3-in-1 is actually use to cover hairline cracks... for the undercoat, use sealer, any brand also can, as long u got put...

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Added on August 20, 2011, 7:04 pmthose contractor who tell u these is juz bull shyt... zzz

This post has been edited by zhihow: Aug 20 2011, 07:04 PM

After using nippon matex, is that a need to use other VInilex? Or Matex is like Sealer? Or perhaps could explain what the proper for Plaster ceiling (new house / new plaster ceiling)?

Prefer ici

Hi,

Wanna ask, I'm repainting my condo approx 1300sf - walls, doors, grills and plaster ceiling.
The existing wall paint is fairly new - no peeling, do i need to ask contractor to remove old paint layer?

Plaster ceiling - just Vinilex 1 coat will do?
Thanks

just need some advice, what paint for interior which we can use wet cloth and clean.

hi guys. anyone tried mr. paintman or TOA? i heard some ppl say TOA from thailand good quality as it origin from japan....

My contractor suggested Colourland Easy Care paint for my condo interior. Matt finishes and easy to clean. Also has antimould and antifungus effects. Anybody has experience using this Colourland paint?

grade 1 paint (in non sequence)
NIPPON
DULUX
JOTUN

grade 2 paint (in non sequence)
TOA
KCC
COlOURland
MCI
SKK

i use SKK ..

What I buy

Under Coat Simen ICI 20ℓ - W/Sealer
RM170.00 1 RM170.00
Under Coat Kayu + Besi SKK 5ℓ
RM55.00 1 RM55.00
Anti Rust Besi SKK 5ℓ - Red Oxide Primer
RM95.00 2 RM190.00
Cat W/Shield SKK 5ℓ - S7020 Y70R (Coklat Gelap) RM98.00 1 RM98.00
Cat W/Shield Cerah SKK 20ℓ - 6063P (Coklat Cerah) RM280.00 1 RM280.00
Cat Bumbung Coklat Gelap Gliden 5ℓ - 12788
RM98.00 2 RM196.00
Cat Kayu + Besi (Pintu, Bingkai tingkap, Nako) Putih Gliden 5ℓ RM98.00 1 RM98.00
Ruang Tamu (Kilat) SKK 5ℓ - Please Coat S4030430R RM98.00 1 RM98.00
Bilik 1 (Kilat) SKK 1ℓ - Please Coat S3040 R50B (Ungu) RM28.00 1 RM28.00
Bilik 2 (Kilat) SKK 1ℓ - Please Coat S1050 B10G (Biru) RM28.00 1 RM28.00
Bilik 3 (Kilat) SKK 1ℓ - Please Coat S0560 G30Y (Hijau) RM28.00 1 RM28.00

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Added on March 3, 2012, 1:56 pmLater, not enough paint need to buy additional

Additional Cat

Under Coat Kayu + Besi JotunMatt 5ℓ
RM53.00 1 RM53.00
Cat W/Shield Cerah SKK 5ℓ - 6063P (Coklat Cerah) RM105.00 1 RM105.00
Cat Bumbung Coklat Gelap Gliden 1ℓ - 12788
RM28.00 1 RM28.00
Cat Kayu + Besi (Pintu, Bingkai tingkap, Nako) Putih Gliden 5ℓ RM98.00 1 RM98.00


other Additional Cat
Cat W/Shield Cerah SKK 20ℓ - 6063P (Coklat Cerah) RM280.00 1 RM280.00
Bilik 3 (Kilat) SKK 5ℓ - Please Coat S0560 G30Y (Hijau) RM98.00 1 RM98.00
Syiling Putih Simen SKK Beauty Base White (Tak Kilat) 1ℓ RM25.00 1 RM25.00


This post has been edited by SueAnnie: Mar 3 2012, 01:56 PM

Paintman ok to use. Just depends on ur expectation. What u pay is what u get.


Antimould & antifungus is just another marketing gimmick. Most important is the throughly clean the wall from stains, dusts, oil,etc BEFORE painting.

Actually warranty is the most important no matter how branded or quality of the paint u plan to buy.

Anyone here beside me have tried Murobond paints before?

Noticed no one has mentioned them, i find that they have a wide variety of paints in colour shades different to your normal ICI / Nippon.

Only thing is their paints are a tad expensive as they are focused more to developers than end users in Malaysia.

where is ICI?

Dulux is ICI. Anyway, I think TOA is comparable to first grade paint.

I'm using a mix of Nippon (mostly), Sisson (Ceiling) and TOA (door paint)

for Nippon, I've used Matex gold for all interior, some Momento wallpaper paint and Weatherbond Advance for exterior.

I always recommend Jotun. Can have any colors I want instead of off-the-shelf colors. Good paint as well. After 4 years they still look like new. And no smell after painting. Just using Jotun Strax which is a matt paint.

Proper spec for ceiling emulsion paint is 1 coat sealer + 2 coats emulsion paint.

If no peeling, no need to remove. Can just do some minor surface preparation like light sanding.

Jotun is overrated

I will say Jotun, ICI and Nippon all are in par.

Is it recommended to use a cheaper paint brand for new walls? I've read somewhere new walls take 1 year to fully dry. So regardless how good quality the paint, it will still not last. I'm thinking of getting MCI paints for my exterior to save cost. And then maybe repaint with better paint after 3 years like that.

Take a year to fully dry a wall?
Normally i wouldn't take that long la. The time to dry up depend on condition, a normal internal plastered wall take a bout 2 weeks to dry till a paint-able condition. External wall which subject to rain, or a water tank wall might take slightly longer to dry up.
In fact, as long as the moisture content is lower than 14%, it is good to go with painting.
Whether the wall dry or not, i still recommend you put a proper paint with proper system.

P/S: The moisture content of a wall can be measured by a Protimeter.

This post has been edited by enriquelee: Mar 6 2012, 08:48 AM

Hi bro,
may i know what typy of paint u recoment for room, living .
satin glo, easy wash, ...?
which type is more easy paint and no problem...
heheh...thank for sharing...

Depends on the condition of your walls.
If the walls are bad or uneven, avoid satin glo. All the imperfectness will show up when you switch on the lights. If you plan to skim coat the surface, then OK la.. There is also another point that you need to be aware of. If you need to touch up some parts of the wall later, these area will not closely match the surrounding. Thus having to repaint the whole section of the wall.
Go for matt or low sheen paint. The unevenness will not be so obvious. Less of headache.
However, you may want to consider satin glo for the feature wall
But make sure you skim coat, else you will not like the outcome..

I got bad experience with easy wash. So you need to choose carefully.

huh...!! i bought few tong of easy wash.....
then how...?? what should becareful....
please advive me.....