As other forumers suggested.. go visit her shop first and foremost
(I heard her shop is located somewhere in PJ/Subang area)
Check to see if the dogs there are well treated..
Ask around the forums for people who might have bought from her
(do this by replying on the pet clubs below which refers to the particular breed you are interested in)
Ask for a few things
MKA cert-> check for inbreeding
If there are inbreeding-> check whether or not the pup's dam and sire has any genetic illness etc.
(Unlike U.S.A, Malaysia cannot check for history of illnesses in a dam and a sire so you gotta dig it out from her)
Not all inbreded pups are bad... but its not encouraged... and preferably better not..
but nowadays its hard to find those kinda puppies who are not resulted from inbreeding before..

use your judgement and common sense as well as if you feel something is wrong.. or do not feel quite right
go back and do a little more research..

remember to ask questions about the pup from her...
(usually a responsible breeder will not hide anything from you)
Ask about the temperament of the dam and sire etc etc...

Good luck in getting your pup (=

She doesn't have shop. Basically she have those puppies at her house and some of them are with MKA cert but she did have puppies that no cert as well.

@nicole : I went to her place twice I think and if not mistaken she told me the parents of the puppies are not with her but if I really keen to see the parents she will try to get their picture for me to see

)= yeah the truth is.. we bought from irene thinking its better to buy from her, a home breeder...
instead of going to shops (which has a higher chance of their puppies coming from puppy mills)

Whereas i was made to understand Benjac (owner of mellomouse blog (=) went up to Penang.. we didn't have the time to go up nor the vehicle to do so..

as such we didnt have a chance to inspect the location and see how was the condition of the pups before it was brought to us..

its hard to find a good breeder anymore

If anyone does get a chance to meet Irene Kang personally without knowing her bad reputation, you will surely fall for her promises. She talks non stop and you won't have a chance to ask her anything. I had a list of questions ready and yet she bulldozed me over when I tried to ask. My husband was shooting the dogs and in the background you can hear her talk talk talk talk. Anyway I was so in love with her Westies (Ozzy and Christy) that I didn't suspect a word she said. I wasn't even really looking at the puppies 

Irene lives in a semi-d. Obviously a well-to-do family and it looks like a happy family home with her kids grown up. I didn't get to see where she keeps all her dogs. Everytime I ask to see another breed, she will carry them in and bring out another. Always 2-3 dogs of the same breed. At that time, it never crossed my mind just how many dogs she has inside her house. Easily a dozen and more.

Honestly, we totally fell for her "home bred with love" and "dogs are part of the family" selling point. I guess by seeing her and her dogs with our own eyes made it worst. Everything was so perfect that we paid deposit on the spot even though our intention was to just see. So for all the people who bought from her, I bet we all became "victim" the same way 

Another point to add: Irene always assured us that she waits with the puppies outside of the vet for their vaccines. She will wait until is her turn only enters and leaves immediately to assure the puppies don't get sick from other sick dogs inside the vet. The irony from this is, her own home is filled with dogs that are sick surrounds all her newborn puppies 

Hi Josh,

Sorry for the late reply. I just got back from overseas and was told by a friend from the forum about your postings on LYN Forum.

I am very sorry for the loss of Tiffie and would like to express my deepest condolences to you and girlfriend. I know how painful it is for you and Joanne to lose such a beautiful dog.

The sire and dam of your dog have had 3 litters, totaling 10 puppies. This is the first time that a puppy from this pair of parents has died of congenital heart failure. All other puppies sold, including 1 female pup that I kept for myself are all healthy and doing fine. Both the dam and sire are also strong & healthy.

I have consulted my vet and he thinks that it is a 1 off thing since all the other puppies are healthy. He also says that congenital may not necessarily be genetic. Ask some breeders and they should be able to tell you that occasionally, there may be 1 or 2 cases of congenital abnormalities like cleft palate, heart defects, etc. out o f the many litters delivered. This may not be due to a genetic factor but environmental causes in the womb before birth like exposure to chemicals, drugs, etc.

As a responsible breeder, I will definitely not breed the pair if it is found to be a genetic issue.

You mentioned that your puppy's fur was messy & smelly at time of delivery. I am quite shocked to hear that. All my puppies are very well taken care of, kept in very clean environment and are given a bath & thorough groom before delivery (I make this a point with all my puppies sold). She was in tiptop condition. There was not even a blemish on her skin. All our puppies are even trained to eat kibbles direct from the pack and trained to be independent so that they will adjust easily and not cry in the new owner's home due to separation anxiety.

As for Taco, the owner has taken the westie puppy away for 2 weeks before it died. Anything could have happened in the 2 weeks. The puppy could have contracted the virus while under her care. She was given a week's health guarantee. She was shouting on the phone asking for full refund, refusing to hear me out and I had to put the phone down. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but she did eventually buy a second westie puppy from me with a discount of RM500.

The other thing is about Benjac. She was not grateful to me for selling her a beautiful westie called Scubby, and she appears be very unreasonable to me. She is still harping away about me. She claimed that her dog has hip dysplasia. You may read further from this link: http://homeapet.com/english/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4549 to know the truth.

Sorry Josh, to bore you with this and you may see this as me giving "excuses" but I need to let you know the other side of the story and it is very frustrating to hear and read about all these inflammatory remarks about my puppies and my breedings. I am truly disheartened that I've been labeled "unethical" and "irresponsible" breeder when I truly put alot of effort and love into taking care and breeding my dogs.
One more thing, could you pls ask Benjac to remove my address in this link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1932845, failing which I will have to lodge a police report for privacy and safety of myself and my family. It is unlawful for her to be disclosing details (my address etc.) to the public.

Once again, I am truly so sorry for your loss of Tiffie. I hope this clarifies the comments about me. I hope you will fair to me.

Best Regards,
Irene

Hi Josh,

Sorry for the late reply. I just got back from overseas and was told by a friend from the forum about your postings on LYN Forum.

I am very sorry for the loss of Tiffie and would like to express my deepest condolences to you and girlfriend. I know how painful it is for you and Joanne to lose such a beautiful dog.

The sire and dam of your dog have had 3 litters, totaling 10 puppies. This is the first time that a puppy from this pair of parents has died of congenital heart failure. All other puppies sold, including 1 female pup that I kept for myself are all healthy and doing fine. Both the dam and sire are also strong & healthy.

I have consulted my vet and he thinks that it is a 1 off thing since all the other puppies are healthy. He also says that congenital may not necessarily be genetic. Ask some breeders and they should be able to tell you that occasionally, there may be 1 or 2 cases of congenital abnormalities like cleft palate, heart defects, etc. out o f the many litters delivered. This may not be due to a genetic factor but environmental causes in the womb before birth like exposure to chemicals, drugs, etc.

As a responsible breeder, I will definitely not breed the pair if it is found to be a genetic issue.

You mentioned that your puppy's fur was messy & smelly at time of delivery. I am quite shocked to hear that. All my puppies are very well taken care of, kept in very clean environment and are given a bath & thorough groom before delivery (I make this a point with all my puppies sold). She was in tiptop condition. There was not even a blemish on her skin. All our puppies are even trained to eat kibbles direct from the pack and trained to be independent so that they will adjust easily and not cry in the new owner's home due to separation anxiety.

As for Taco, the owner has taken the westie puppy away for 2 weeks before it died. Anything could have happened in the 2 weeks. The puppy could have contracted the virus while under her care. She was given a week's health guarantee. She was shouting on the phone asking for full refund, refusing to hear me out and I had to put the phone down. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but she did eventually buy a second westie puppy from me with a discount of RM500.

The other thing is about Benjac. She was not grateful to me for selling her a beautiful westie called Scubby, and she appears be very unreasonable to me. She is still harping away about me. She claimed that her dog has hip dysplasia. You may read further from this link: http://homeapet.com/english/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4549 to know the truth.

Sorry Josh, to bore you with this and you may see this as me giving "excuses" but I need to let you know the other side of the story and it is very frustrating to hear and read about all these inflammatory remarks about my puppies and my breedings. I am truly disheartened that I've been labeled "unethical" and "irresponsible" breeder when I truly put alot of effort and love into taking care and breeding my dogs.
One more thing, could you pls ask Benjac to remove my address in this link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1932845, failing which I will have to lodge a police report for privacy and safety of myself and my family. It is unlawful for her to be disclosing details (my address etc.) to the public.

Once again, I am truly so sorry for your loss of Tiffie. I hope this clarifies the comments about me. I hope you will fair to me.

Best Regards,
Irene

This may not be due to a genetic factor but environmental causes in the womb before birth like exposure to chemicals, drugs, etc.

Breed because of money some more breed a sick puppy!

What kinda human are you Mrs Irene Kang? Wont you feel shameful? You are cold blood animal!

Even you have made a police report for yourself or your family got any usage?

Tiffie , scubby and tako owner have you all tried to report to SPCA? They will investigate da issue if 3 of da puppy owner go report on the same time.

As for the address part... I don't think its wrong to put it out.. unless there has been a death threat or a threat to cause menace at your place..
But I will tell benjac to do it for the sake of civility...

Ok I've removed the entire post. It's such a useless debate with that woman. What comes around, goes around.

Irene, if you are really reading this: Grow up and take responsibility.

I've heard more stories about her....
hopefully the owners of those puppies will come out and make a stand...
Also reminder.. if you guys have anymore experiences with bad breeders (i.e the way they treat their pups/ the way they breed them/ dishonest breeders) please post here with evidence...

lets keep this alive..