Bro I think you need to re-read what yazidsahak wrote:

"cars like jetta, camry, u pay more than what u get
c4 u pay what u get, IMHO
K5 u pay less than what u get
in this capitalism world, when u pay less than what u get, then u should think twice. "


What he actually said, is that for the Jetta and Camry, you get LESS than what you pay for.

Citroen C4, he feels one gets EXACTLY what one pays for.

K5, he feels that one gets MORE than what one pays for.

And his final statement, he feels that if you get MORE than what you PAY for, then you should stop and consider, what's the catch?

That, in a nutshell, is what bro yazidsahak was trying to convey.

Now that you mention it, I discovered a slight anomaly with a showroom unit a few days after the official launch. When I pressed the volume controls on the steering, they appear slightly unresponsive, as in I needed to press them once, release then press again before the volume changed. And then the channel wouldn't change when I pressed the channel up/down switch on the steering.

I found it rather odd, as I was used to the controls on my Forte which are very responsive, almost as fast as changing the controls on the head unit itself.

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Added on March 6, 2012, 4:53 pmThe Japanese automakers have been hit really hard this time round. The strong Yen coupled with disasters both at home and in Thailand have dealt a double whammy that will take some time to shake off.

And lest we say it's not our fault, indirectly, thanks to the foolish pride of Thailand's neighbour (us!) who were so afraid of losing our national identity and kept protecting our so-called local automotive industry, the Japs wouldn't have set up shop in Thailand in the first place, and the Thais wouldn't have risen so fast to become the automotive hub of this region in such a short time.

Now it remains to be seen if our automotive policies would change for the better, to allow automotive FDI to flow freely into the country or not. For want of national pride and royally screwing its people to protect the interests of some, we have let a golden opportunity slip us by for too long.

Now is the time to welcome the world's automakers to our country with open arms. The title of ASEAN's automotive hub rightly belonged to us before some mamak had a distorted epiphany and delusions of grandeur.

This post has been edited by gregy: Mar 6 2012, 04:53 PM

The K5 in SG was launched much earlier without a sunroof. Only now they are getting the sunroof version just like us.

The K5 has a lot of design cues that can only be appreciated if it's a colour other than black or white. If you look carefully at a white or black car, you can hardly make out the lines of the car, and without a bodykit with black rubber lining, most bone stock white cars will look like whales on wheels. Don't believe me, take a look at a bone stock Forte or Jetta from the side and you will see what I mean.

The next time you go to the showroom, try and observe all the subtle lines that make out the exterior of the car, and you will notice that silver and that dark grey (but only under spotlights) will reveal the K5's sexy curves, while for the white version you appraise the car in its totality. Luckily, the K5's entire shape is strong enough to not lose its identity in a white skin, but if you want to emphasize the machine-like qualities of the K5's lines, you will need a silver or titanium type of colour.

The last button with the horn symbol is the panic button.

No, sorry, I thought that photo was the K5's remote. Mine is a Forte 2.0 SX and my remote comes with that horn button. Used it a few times to find my car in a parking lot lol...

Used cars out of the Klang Valley usually fetch a slightly higher price, hence outstation dealers can give you better prices for your old car. Case in point, last time I helped my sis in law to sell her Kelisa, dealers in KV offered around 15-17k, I secured an outstation direct buyer for 21k. A few outstation dealers offered me 19-20k with the highest being from a dealer in Terengganu.

Are you kidding? Accord has the largest cabin space of any currently available D-segment in the country bar none...

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/default...carID=19362&i=2

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/default...=17366&i=2#menu

And just as I had mentioned earlier, metallic colours tend to bring out the sexy lines and curves of the K5 because each indentation/line/curve reflects light in a different direction. Sweet...

The other day when I was viewing the PG at Red Cube, I noticed this. If you look at the car in parts, i.e., front portion, bonnet, middle section, rear quarter etc, you will appreciate the effort put into every line by the designers, and it looks awesome.

However, viewing the car as a whole, white tends to stand out. Silver is somewhere in between PG and white.

This post has been edited by gregy: Mar 24 2012, 02:12 AM

Of course la, one is "Ori", the other one is "Copy" lol...

That's why la, try not to rub the knob too hard lol... Even though it's hard to resist since the car gives you orgasmic tendencies

Here's what I have found out from a few sources. The banks will take your nett income after deducting all monthly commitments as below:

1) CC - Calculated as 5% min repayment. So if you owe RM2,000, then RM100 la
2) Housing loan
3) EFP/Socso/PCB no need to say la, sure included ady
4) Personal loan etc

After deducting all that, the balance divided by three. If the car's monthly installment falls within one-third of whatever you have left, then you're safe.

If you are selling your car, make sure to mention that so they won't take the present car installment into the calculation. Perhaps produce a deposit receipt from the buyer.

This post has been edited by gregy: Mar 29 2012, 11:04 PM

On my Forte whenever the ESP is activated the ESP indicator comes on briefly. It's that little icon with the car on a slippery road, in yellow. It's also the same icon that appears if I decide to turn ESP off. But you'd have to be really sharp to notice it. Plus, it doesn't come on under normal ABS braking, it only appears when one wheel has lost traction and the car needs to activate independent wheel braking as countermeasure.

Regardless, ESP works in conjunction with ABS/EBD/traction control, which derives its control via the brakes and reduction of torque to the driven wheels. As such, whenever you feel the pulsing of the brakes or hear that characteristic ABS oscillation you know you're in safe hands.

Nonetheless, I agree that ESP can only do so much. If one were to deliberately push the limits without knowing how to recover, is heading for disaster. My mantra is to never go into a corner thinking that ESP will save my bacon.

Perhaps I need to make myself clear. By activating ESP I mean being in a situation where the ESP goes into action. I didn't mean it lighting up to indicate that it was switched on. I meant while it acted to save my bacon... So the short answer is yes, it lights up on my car.

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Added on April 2, 2012, 4:25 pmEven then, "visual sensor" is not the right term. You need to learn how to post properly bro lol...

It's more a sonic or electromagnetic based sensor with visual interface.



This post has been edited by gregy: Apr 2 2012, 04:26 PM

Aiya, if you had replied earlier with "visual display" instead of visual sensor I wouldn't have added my two sen lol. Nonetheless it was a case of typo which you have duly edited. Good on you. Moving on....

Try Red Cube in PJ. Can even test drive the Sportage.

Dear w111w, you must not take to heart the less than enthusiastic reception you are getting from this thread. You need to know one thing, car buying to a guy, is almost like looking for a wife. To some, his car *is* his wife lol...

When you come in and start dissing the "wives" and "future wives" of the thread participants here, what other reception were you expecting?

But I tend to agree with you, the K5 is not for everybody. I am still holding back because of the "adequate" engine. I am sorely disappointed that Naza isn't planning to bring in the GDI turbo. If it's always just me alone in the car, the 2.0 is ok lah, but try having a full load of ppl and luggage, and even the non-GDI 2.4 will also struggle a bit.

The other day I had a friendly sprint with a Sonata 2.0 (I drive a 2.0 6-sp Forte) just to see how well that 165ps engine performed. The Sonata 2.0 is using the exact same engine as the K5, but the former is slightly lighter. Nonetheless, my Forte ate the Sonata for breakfast. He had no answer at all...

For me, at most I will test drive three times and I will already know if the car is meant for me, because I know what to look out for during those test drives. So far I've done one round with the K5, two more to go lol...

In terms of actual performance, I can tell you that on paper and in reality, the K5's 2-litre engine is slightly more zippy than the Camry and Accord 2-litre mills. I dare say that if you change the K5's wheels to 17s it will be even more responsive and zippy.

Bro, no need to jump up and down, relax. Quickly buy it and show him how good it really is.

Actually, the Optima is within the norm in the D-segment category, weight wise. Give or take 1-3% difference between the heaviest and lightest. The lightest D-segment I've seen so far is the M6 which comes in at a trim 1,355kg. Optima is around 1,450, so is the Camry, Accord, while the Teana is around the 1,500kg mark.

FC can be improved by monitoring the Instant FC level on the multi-function display. With it, one will learn how to be an efficient driver.

Clutch is one thing. Turbo is another thing. It's quite possible that many of those who face problems are those who went for chip tuning. When overboosting above stock, a lot of things can go wrong. Not forgetting that in the 1.4 TSI engines there's also a supercharger to worry about. Regarding the dry clutch of the 7-sp DSG I read that most problems are associated with the mechatronic module and not a problem with the clutch itself. It's hard to get more info about this unless you're in the inner circle of any VW car clubs; I can't seem to find much info online and certainly not from any VW SAs lol...

The CC on the other hand, uses the same engine and tranny as the Golf GTI which is a refined version of the drivetrain that has been in use in the Golf MkV and Passat B6 since 2005 so I suppose it's a more matured design while the engine and tranny in the 1.4 TSI only came on the scene in 2009. The irony is this: Despite winning awards for best engine etc, VW has said that they will no longer develop another twin charged engine and instead focus on turbodiesel and refining their single charged petrol engines. Go figure.