Dec 29 2011, 11:13 AM
QUOTE(gregy @ Dec 29 2011, 10:52 AM)
Don't be so naive. Everything is made in China these days. Apple, LG, HTC etc. Electronics today aren't made to last. A Merc today is no longer as tough and durable as it used to be 30 yrs ago. Same with Jap cars.
The way you put it is as if you've owned a few Korean cars in the past and they've all let you down. I don't know where you live, but around my neighbourhood plenty of Getz, Aveo, Spectra, Matrix etc are still running around. Their mechanical engineering back then may not be good, but many ppl have said that those cars, even though with mechanical issues, are rock solid in terms of suspension and bodywork.
Are you driving a Kia to judge that Naza "has plenty of rooms for improvement."?
3yrs by today's standards is a fairly new car, but a new car it is not. And judging by the general population and how "well" they take care of their cars, 3yrs makes a car really old.
Why do you think a 10yo S-class is cheap? You need to thank our govt's archaic road tax policy. The smallest engine on an S-class is a 2.8-litre. That's RM1.6k for road tax. And by dirt cheap, you do know that it's still going for between RM75-88k right? Compare that to a same year Camry 2.0 or 2.2 going for about RM28-35k. It's still more than double the price.
How can you compare a 10yo Jap car against a 10yo Conti and call the latter "dull"?
If I could afford the FC, road tax and maintenance of a 10yo S-Class I'd buy one in a heartbeat! The reality is, someone wanting to own a 10yo S-Class is someone who can afford a brand new RM170k D-segment car with a 2.4 or smaller engine. So pls don't condemn that car, or an old Bimmer for that matter.
first, dont be so defensive/offensive, just sharing my point here, especially on WHY ppl are scare of korean product.The way you put it is as if you've owned a few Korean cars in the past and they've all let you down. I don't know where you live, but around my neighbourhood plenty of Getz, Aveo, Spectra, Matrix etc are still running around. Their mechanical engineering back then may not be good, but many ppl have said that those cars, even though with mechanical issues, are rock solid in terms of suspension and bodywork.
Are you driving a Kia to judge that Naza "has plenty of rooms for improvement."?
3yrs by today's standards is a fairly new car, but a new car it is not. And judging by the general population and how "well" they take care of their cars, 3yrs makes a car really old.
Why do you think a 10yo S-class is cheap? You need to thank our govt's archaic road tax policy. The smallest engine on an S-class is a 2.8-litre. That's RM1.6k for road tax. And by dirt cheap, you do know that it's still going for between RM75-88k right? Compare that to a same year Camry 2.0 or 2.2 going for about RM28-35k. It's still more than double the price.
How can you compare a 10yo Jap car against a 10yo Conti and call the latter "dull"?
If I could afford the FC, road tax and maintenance of a 10yo S-Class I'd buy one in a heartbeat! The reality is, someone wanting to own a 10yo S-Class is someone who can afford a brand new RM170k D-segment car with a 2.4 or smaller engine. So pls don't condemn that car, or an old Bimmer for that matter.
second, you should get a used S class, if you can afford the Air suspension at rm20k per set. S class brand new(recon) is more than 600k, so, 10 years later, its only 15%, yes, thats dirt cheap to me.
yea, i know everything is made in china. so?
Electronics arent made to last? so how about all those aircrafts and mainframes?
they have their design life, some are shorter, some are made to last longer. it depends on the design spec.the concept of Jap car and COnti is different ( and korean being in the middle, trying to move towards conti side).
jap = in terms of R&D, they are more on development. Less on R. they go for continuous improvement.Hybrid, its only in small numbers and in selected models.
conti = More on Research side. they are more willing to take on new tech, and implement it across. Like DSG, and twincharger, suddenly in 1 generation, its available across all platforms.
pros and cons? well you know, Jap= durable and reliable( of course and boring). and Conti= very fancy and fun, but, needs more caring and love, and deeper pocket too.
People here and now are still used to the concept of longer lasting car.
do you need to be electrocuted before you are sure high voltage kills? now you know why human being can last for so many generations right? because ppl are cautious.
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