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 Digital TV Station Malaysia, How do I tune to digital TV station?

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shaun_kok
post Apr 2 2019, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 2 2019, 12:15 AM)
All the channel below you mention gone.
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Do I need to do a rescan again ? Which frequency was it ? Need to manually scan and set frequency ?
Using TV build in DVB-T2 without a box.
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First where is your location? Your location will allow forumers to give frequencies for MUX 2.

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post Apr 2 2019, 01:14 PM

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I noticed some problems after RTM switched into HD :

EPG from both multiplexes “unable to communicate” despite operating by same operator. I couldn't understand why such a simple thing cannot be done.

That usual watermark problem that was added "syok sendiri" by MYTV. Almost all digital platforms overseas don't add such "syok sendiri" watermark but they choose to add that, probably as no one pay them/MYTV yet.

Unrelated problem here : if MYTV official set top boxes is used, when you use manual tuning, the lineup sometimes can become messy. Even on auto tuning (in Johor Bahru and surrounding areas), local channels can be ended up place on 800s (808 for TV1, 809 for TV2, 810 for TV3 .etc) right after Singapore channels. The channel numbers lineups can be also a problem for boxes like K2 (did not according to LCN and channel number can changed if there are transmission changes) although that was not guaranteed or certified officially. Digital TV sets usually doesn't have such problem.

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post Apr 2 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 2 2019, 12:29 PM)
http://www.bernama.com/en/general/news.php?id=1711819

Analogue TV to be shut down by Q3 2019.
Only when there's a change in government, although it is not a "very fast progress" due to lots of bureaucracies and commercial issues passed down by the previous government, you can still see a clear progress on analogue switch off and digital switch-over in Malaysia.
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Just hope that it won't be delayed again. There is simply no enough education about the upcoming analogue switchover, only interested person will care. (only free set top box allocation to 2 million households, and some don't even bother about the set top box too due to using Astro/already switched to digital TV) Also they don't bother for the issues in Johor Bahru area too.

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post Apr 3 2019, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 3 2019, 01:05 AM)
Anyone here thinks that MYTV abruptly move RTM channels to another mux without informing the public beforehand, is seriously an unwise thing to do? MYTV expects that the public would assume that when RTM channels goes no signal, is an April Fool joke, cuz so happen it falls on 1 April 2019?

And, do you think that MYTV box users to require user to enter PIN (default 0000) to access to "Auto Tuning" in case there is any frequency retune exercise, is a stupid and dumb thing to implement?
Why is it so secretive for MYTV to allow user to retune their MYTV STBs till the point need to enter PIN? Even the usual TV sets don't necessarily need to enter PIN to access Auto/Manual Tuning menu.
They don't want people to simply mess around the frequency stuff? Their frequency stuff very confidential meh? They expect the kids would mess around the settings, is it? If the STB can auto update itself, then it's okay. But, can't auto update, need PIN to retune, and I don't remember I set any PIN before on the MYTV box, even the default PIN is 0000, and if I am a person who is not good in technology, I will sure get frustrated and find that this MYTV box is a piece of trash.
Seriously I don't see the need for them to do that. This will only trouble the users when MYTV boxes itself can't even auto update the channel list, like Astro, but requires viewers to enter PIN to get back the channels that went missing. Yet, MYTV still "forces/encourages" the public to use their own MYTV digital TV STB, as if they think their MYTV box is world class standard dry.gif

Now you see what happen?
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RTM inform viewers to retune their MYTV boxes AFTER they abruptly moved all their channels to another mux/frequency overnight without informing viewers beforehand on any frequency retuning exercise, leaving viewers goes wonder how come RTM channels suddenly goes No Signal. Yes, they do inform the public that RTM channels will go HD from 1 Apr, but they did not inform that there will be a change of TV frequency. And then, still "teach" viewers to enter PIN "0000" to access Auto Tuning menu after they changed frequency.  doh.gif  doh.gif
I wonder is it because RTM last minute realise that there is sudden drop in viewership on that day, so that's why they find it necessary for them to educate viewers now to retune their sets like this. Terrible.

Not yet finish. MYTV informs the public to retune their MYTV boxes 1 day after (2 April) the frequency being changed??? Wahh, they wait until the viewers goes wild and lost when RTM channels on digital TV goes No Signal, and then the public kept contacting MYTV customer service on the issue, be in on social media like Facebook or customer service hotline, then only want to inform the public to retune one day later? What the heck? Why this MYTV Broadcasting so smart one? :furious2:
https://facebook.com/mytvbroadcasting/posts/2390814057603770

Another problem now is many viewers out there seems that they couldn't get any signal from the second mux (Klang Valley: 698MHz). Some say is antenna issue, some say is the transmitter for the second mux is not as powerful as the first mux (Klang Valey: 666MHz).  I wonder how MYTV would seriously address and provide clear detail explanation on this issue to the public and MYTV viewers.

It's good to see that RTM has all of its channels in HD now, but in terms of how it affects the viewers on the implementation is seriously considered badly managed by MYTV.
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Actually it was the problem for both RTM and MYTV. Blame RTM for not informing the viewers regarding the change beforehand and also rescan is needed to regain access of RTM channels. When the channels suddenly gone lost, viewers was angered for such loss. How can viewers see the crawler information if you can't watch/receive the service?

MYTV should be blamed too as they could publish the details for the change as you have know beforehand that a retune is necessary to regain channels. Also, MYTV should have place an info card regarding the change on all the affected channels and not just suddenly remove channels in question from the multiplex, just like they have done before on Drama Sangat, CJ WOW SHOP and Channel W and when they move channels to another MUX for RTM, leaving viewers wonder what had happened on those channels. They want people to use their set top boxes but they ended up make the usage for such box difficult. They claim they have world class infrastructure but their actions (adding unnecessary watermarks and remove channels without information) make them the worst digital TV infrastructure in the world. Inilah namanya tambah watermark syok sendiri pandai, tapi suka suka buang channel tanpa beritahu apa-apa maklumat.

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post Apr 3 2019, 11:39 PM

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RTM has start running/testing close caption system in Bahasa Malaysia on TV1, TV2 and TV OKEY on DTT. Notice the double subtitles aired (one of them subtitles embed on video, another one close captions)

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post Apr 3 2019, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(leonardchin @ Apr 3 2019, 09:30 PM)
Mom's house in Ayer Keroh, Melaka can't get RTM channels even after auto re-scan. Any idea what can be done? Thank you.
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Local frequency for your area for MUX 2 is Channel 52 (722MHz)

QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Apr 3 2019, 08:44 PM)
Guys how can I get RTM channels back..I live near Fraser Hill transmitter
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Try Channel 49 (698MHz).

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post Apr 4 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 4 2019, 10:51 PM)
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good information. Thank you.
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post Apr 4 2019, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Snoe II @ Apr 4 2019, 11:17 AM)
I tot Malaysia got odd number channel (45, 47, 49, etc) and Indonesia got even number channel (46, 48, 50, etc). Not ah?
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That list is applicable only for Southern Johor. Remember the co channel interference issue between Gunung Ledang and Bt Batok (Singapore), impacting analogue channels in Northern Johor in the past???

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post Apr 5 2019, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Apr 5 2019, 11:26 AM)
Customer service hotline. They asked about set up box, but it was not relevant to me because mine is TV with built-in DVB-T2.
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Seems like MYTV's customer service assume that all users that use their services uses their set top box. Otherwise, they actually ask you to refer television manufacturer unless one insists it is their problem. They should have make 2 options available, which are problems related to services (since not all use a set top box) and problems related to their set top box.
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post Apr 9 2019, 08:42 PM

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"Siaran Digital myFreeview" watermark shrinked considerably on RTM channels. (not on BES)

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post Apr 10 2019, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 10 2019, 08:57 PM)
why pasir gudang not one Malaysian channel can receive ?

all Singaporean only
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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Apr 10 2019, 09:24 PM)
Antenna directions. Transmission tower is not the same alignment for both countries. Also test during day time. Most of the time transmission tests are off during nights and early mornings.
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More likely to be co channel interference issues with Indonesian Analogue TV that cause NO reception on Malaysian DTT channels. Even with correct antenna alignments to Gunung Pulai (+Pelangi), there will be diffcultly receiving Malaysian DTT.
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post Apr 11 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 11 2019, 09:31 AM)
If like that, what are the solutions available?
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Unless analogue TV is switched off, which then MYTV can retune to temporary frequency (frequencies formerly used by analogue TV3,NTV7,8TV,TV9) before rightly tuned to its allocated frequency after Indonesian side have switched off analogue TV.
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post Apr 13 2019, 01:30 AM

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Edit: deleted. Someone had post the same info without realising it had been posted before.

QUOTE(truelife @ Apr 12 2019, 11:37 AM)
Due to continuous complaints about poor signal or no signal of RTM HD channels in MUX 2, RTM has now included back TV1 SD and TV2 SD in MUX 1 while still maintaining all RTM HD channels in MUX 2. MYTV really needs to solve the technical issues in MUX 2.
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Agreed with that. Really should had done few days before. Noticed that it is using different LCN numbers for both services (Ch 201/202). A stop gap measure when MYTV are resolving the issues.

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Apr 13 2019, 09:01 AM)
So means the radio channel would be back as well?
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It will likely stay on MUX 2. RTM radio channels on myFreeview platform can be easily tuned on a normal FM radio in most regions (except Asyik FM), therefore a move to MUX 1 is unnecessary. The duplication is done to ensure reception of TV1 and TV2 is still available when the problem is being fixed.

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post Apr 15 2019, 09:50 AM

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2X CJ WOW SHOP with exact same name and same EPG without mentioning the language type and what product is selling (the contents/language are of course different), the only thing is different LCN. Quite confusing somehow.

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Apr 15 2019, 01:03 PM)
HD channels in Astro have better image quality than HD channels in MYTV platform. Besides that, audio in Astro HD channels is exactly Dolby Digital 5.1 surround quality, while audio quality in MYTV channels is really poor if you have a 5.1 home theater setup. I am not sure about the current bitrate in Astro HD channels. Someone posted the information before.
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QUOTE(munchoong @ Apr 15 2019, 01:57 PM)
I tested MyFreeview audio with my receiver, it got flagged as PCM 2.0.
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I think myFreeview uses 32kbps/48kbps HE-AAC V2 Stereo for their audio (no one is using 5.1 Surround sound, not even RTM is using it for now, although TV3 had tested in the past), making it rather poor quality for those with Hi-fi sets. Not sure about video bitrate but Astro doesn't add additional "syok sendiri" watermark for sure.

QUOTE(truelife @ Apr 15 2019, 11:56 AM)
This is a sad story of FTA channels in Malaysia. Media Prima is struggling in business. Most airtime of NTV7 and TV9 have already been allocated for CJ Wow Shop. Besides that we can also see CJ Wow Shop occupies some slots in 8TV and TV3 too. And now, another 2 more additional rubbish channels are purely dedicated for CJ Wow Shop again!
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Maybe we can see the return of some normal programmes on NTV7 and TV9 in the future (Media Prima had quiet reduced CJ WOW SHOP slots on NTV7 and TV9 in favour of repeats especially on morning), especially after the addition of 2 purely shopping channels. Their current configuration is bad for viewers and content and I had a feel that Media Prima is ignoring its own advantage. Many people had complained especially regarding the total loss of children content on TV9 in favour of shopping programmes, which clearly had a market for it. You can see almost every post on TV9's Instagram account bombarded with anti CJ WOW SHOP comments and wanted the return of children content since January.

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post May 1 2019, 03:54 AM

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Channel U (on 570MHz/Ch 33) has now taken over Okto's (which has been newly ceased transmission) HD slot. Similarly, okto (ceased) has taken over Channel U's SD slot as it is a waste to use HD for 2 information slides after ceased transmission. Expecting notices/warnings and screen shrink done (or just straight info screen) on Channel U on 586MHz really soon.

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QUOTE(joshhd @ May 1 2019, 06:25 PM)
So basically is:

Before 1 May:
570MHz: Channel NewsAsia (HD), Channel U (SD), okto (HD)
586MHz: Channel U (HD)

From 1 May 2019:
570MHz: Channel NewsAsia (HD), Channel U (HD), okto (Ceased, showing closure info in SD)
586MHz: Channel U (HD - Now simulcast on 570MHz, and Channel U on this frequency will cease soon)

Am I correct?
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Yup, correct.
Channel U is now simulcasting on both 570 and 586 MHz with 2 sets of LCN [7 for Ch U and 9 for Ch U (HD)], which both of them are currently in HD. Until around 2.30 a.m. - 3.30 a.m. today, Ch U (on LCN 7/570MHz) was still in SD, when technical changes had been done that time. Channel U on 586MHz/LCN 9 is expected to cease in a short period.
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ May 6 2019, 08:48 AM)
MYTV woundn't encrypt DVB-T2, what's the benefit of doing that? So that public will buy the original decoder which is about RM200? By that time when freeview channels are encrypted, I think wise people would rather go for NJOI.
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I agree with that. Encryption is likely used for subscription channels only If MYTV does so, this will make all DVB-T2 TV sets (certified by MCMC) rendered useless.
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QUOTE(ajay67 @ May 17 2019, 06:47 AM)
I heard that more tv channels will be added beginning 18 may. Still rumors though...
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Just wait and see.

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