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post Aug 20 2013, 06:56 AM

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You have just destroyed the Roman architecture of your neighbourhood...
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:20 PM

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Hi Wei Kee, may I know what is the cost of your main door ?? Initially I was thinking to have security door but I prefer the doors to be of equal size (not 1 big 1 small) and the width of my entrance is only 5ft. One of the shops is charging me RM2600 (5x7) including installation and door frames (merbau wood ??). It will be good if you can share with me the price. Thanks.
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2013, 12:07 AM)
Sorry just found out did not respond to you question.

I don't know on 1 story extension, i did mine close to 5k if I remember. With RM 1k of Bin fees, and Few hundreds for the "Cukai Pintu"
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post Aug 20 2013, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(BTimes @ Aug 20 2013, 06:56 AM)
You have just destroyed the Roman architecture of your neighbourhood...
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For the better, I would say. And this isn't Roman architecture but rather a mish-mash of post-modern architecture that seems to be the go-to style for developers back in the day.
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post Aug 20 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(BTimes @ Aug 20 2013, 06:56 AM)
You have just destroyed the Roman architecture of your neighbourhood...
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Neighbourhood as in the old / original desgn or my left neighbor design?

The old design is outdated and making the internal structure very unpractical.

My left neighbor, her house still stand out. I prefer basic don't look "grand" from outside. I don't like to show-off time.
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post Aug 20 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(limhm1 @ Aug 20 2013, 07:20 PM)
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Hi Wei Kee, may I know what is the cost of your main door ?? Initially I was thinking to have security door but I prefer the doors to be of equal size (not 1 big 1 small) and the width of my entrance is only 5ft. One of the shops is charging me RM2600 (5x7) including installation and door frames (merbau wood ??). It will be good if you can share with me the price. Thanks.
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I customade the door, was quoted RM 55 per sqft without stain and installation. All seperate charges. Now need about 75 - 80. Most door supplier will able to accept custom door design.
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post Aug 20 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Aug 20 2013, 08:05 PM)
For the better, I would say. And this isn't Roman architecture but rather a mish-mash of post-modern architecture that seems to be the go-to style for developers back in the day.
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The original design, making the "look" not lasting. And really not practical. USJ and Subang Jaya owner know very well Sime darby design for look not for practicality. See Hoy Chan Design still the best, BU, DU, DJ all desing are very practical and space utilization are superb.
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post Aug 21 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2013, 08:53 PM)
The original design, making the "look" not lasting. And really not practical. USJ and Subang Jaya owner know very well Sime darby design for look not for practicality. See Hoy Chan Design still the best, BU, DU, DJ all desing are very practical and space utilization are superb.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. nod.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2013, 08:53 PM)
The original design, making the "look" not lasting. And really not practical. USJ and Subang Jaya owner know very well Sime darby design for look not for practicality. See Hoy Chan Design still the best, BU, DU, DJ all desing are very practical and space utilization are superb.
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Sometimes I truly wonder... why are Sime Darby designs like seriously outta this world - Era by era look ? My place was called "Gingerbread man" house by my Westerner friend.
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post Aug 22 2013, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2013, 08:51 PM)
I customade the door, was quoted RM 55 per sqft without stain and installation. All seperate charges. Now need about 75 - 80. Most door supplier will able to accept custom door design.
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Do you feel insecure without grill install?

i'm unsure to install a solid wood door or a security door icon_question.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Aug 22 2013, 05:01 AM)
Do you feel insecure without grill install?

i'm unsure to install a solid wood door or a security door  icon_question.gif
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I have that kind of dilemma too but in my case, they can always target at my sliding doors (with grille) and not the security door since it is quite troublesome for them to break open the security door. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Klkl @ Aug 22 2013, 12:25 AM)
Sometimes I truly wonder... why are Sime Darby designs like seriously outta this world - Era by era look ? My place was called "Gingerbread man" house by my Westerner friend.
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Muka mesti ada, isi lain cerita smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Aug 22 2013, 05:01 AM)
Do you feel insecure without grill install?

i'm unsure to install a solid wood door or a security door  icon_question.gif
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Depend how you look at it. I like to open up the door and windows to allow air circulation. Imagine open up the door, and windows without grills. Don't think you see secure even in gated community right?

If i plan to switch on 24x7 AC in my living room and close the door and widows, I will not put in grills. Just like my neighbor, she don't have grills and seldom see them opening up the windows or door.
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post Aug 22 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(limhm1 @ Aug 22 2013, 07:47 AM)
I have that kind of dilemma too but in my case, they can always target at my sliding doors (with grille) and not the security door since it is quite troublesome for them to break open the security door.  rclxub.gif
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Like I say, depend your practive at home. If you like to open up windows and door. Having grill will give you security while letting air circulate.

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post Aug 22 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 22 2013, 02:10 PM)
Depend how you look at it. I like to open up the door and windows to allow air circulation. Imagine open up the door, and windows without grills. Don't think you see secure even in gated community right?

If i plan to switch on 24x7 AC in my living room and close the door and widows, I will not put in grills. Just like my neighbor, she don't have grills and seldom see them opening up the windows or door.
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My concern is whether it's easier for thief to break in if it's wood door? notworthy.gif

I planing to install 2 layers of solid wood door. External layer will have holes for air circulation. Another set like yours.

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post Aug 22 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Aug 22 2013, 03:38 PM)
My concern is whether it's easier for thief to break in if it's wood door?  notworthy.gif

I planing to install 2 layers of solid wood door. External layer will have whole for air circulation. Another set like yours.
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Hmm, double wooden doors, unable visualized the design. Post some photo when done. Wood or metal when they want to break in they still can. Is just slowing them down for few mins. If your wood are solid enough is not easy to break the door.

Get good lock and put a Jimmy Lock.

I have a friend house put a Horizontal crossbar to secure the door when he sleep. Is very common in Europe.

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post Aug 22 2013, 04:58 PM

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Something like this http://barlock.ie/gallery.html

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post Aug 22 2013, 06:12 PM

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My other concern is fire safety. I mean with all these grills and barlocks, how does one have a fire escape plan? Most houses only have one staircase too. There was a recent case here where three boys were on the second floor when a fire broke out and they were stuck on the second floor and suffocated. :/
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post Aug 23 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Aug 22 2013, 06:12 PM)
My other concern is fire safety. I mean with all these grills and barlocks, how does one have a fire escape plan? Most houses only have one staircase too. There was a recent case here where three boys were on the second floor when a fire broke out and they were stuck on the second floor and suffocated. :/
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u9 can request ur grille maker to make a small sorta door in d midst of d grille..it can ppen but most of d time secured wif a padlock..the 2nd staircase scenario doesnt haf any connectrion wif whether u have grilles onot rite?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Aug 23 2013, 10:46 AM)
u9 can request ur grille maker to make a small sorta door in d midst of d grille..it can ppen but most of d time secured wif a padlock..the 2nd staircase scenario doesnt haf any connectrion wif whether u have grilles onot rite?
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A second staircase is a second exit from an upper floor. That case where the three boys suffocated had one guy jump out the window to escape. We live in an intermediate single storey terraced house that we're adding one or two storeys to. Imagine being stuck on the third floor because your stairs is filled with smoke or its too hot to go down through the stairs. We'll be having two stairs, one in front, one behind.

The second staircase is a seperate issue from grilles. I'm just pointing out that most multi-storey houses only have one staircase so in case of a fire emergency they only have one available exit route from the upper floor.

Of course, you don't really need a second staircase. They have those folding attic ladders on the market here in Malaysia. nod.gif

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