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post Oct 8 2011, 11:23 AM

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i think that's oil pressure warning lamp, not brake related... have you checked your engine oil level? if it's low, might have a leak somewhere, try topping up and see if the warning goes away. if the engine oil level is at required levels but still lamp is on, maybe there is other fault or even sensor is faulty? best to check with your regular mechanic... don't ignore it
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post Oct 8 2011, 11:57 AM

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disclaimer: i have never encountered this issue before, and not sure but check this -

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.kiev.ua/Manua...wee9520/11A.pdf

Could be item number 22 Oil Pressure Switch... maybe you can locate it and try reseating it, or maybe even replacing it if it's not too expensive.

But I think still you should go get advise from mechanic, oil pressure no joke don't play play...

QUOTE(Codyx @ Oct 8 2011, 11:32 AM)
i have checked my engine oil level like few days once, probably no difference since rechange....had added more recently but the problem still exist...so far as i can see with my naked eyes no leaking issue coz this car is still quite low in mileage...if sensor problem how much to fix? rclxub.gif

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post Oct 12 2011, 10:35 PM

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Mine also just slightly above 10km/l....

QUOTE(jason1986 @ Oct 12 2011, 10:21 PM)
good enough lor. mine only 9.8-10km/litre leh...
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post Oct 13 2011, 11:41 AM

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conti-like FC!!! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Notoriez @ Oct 13 2011, 11:18 AM)
Mine is only 7-8.5km / liter never complaint much also...
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post Oct 13 2011, 04:57 PM

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yeah mine also similar...

try fold down the rear seat and see if the sound goes away... if it does, you know your culprit... me i just live with it or blast the cd player smile.gif

QUOTE(fleekreturn @ Oct 13 2011, 04:05 PM)
Maybe that sound came from rear seat lock thingy. Near speaker board there. Usually people will just wrap that lock with tape.
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post Oct 15 2011, 08:49 AM

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ngek ngek is caused by the linkages/hinges of the pedal. take WD40 with the long red tube, and try and aim and spray around the pedal from under the driver footwell area. should be ok after that. if not inspect the clutch cable and if sound is from there time to change i think it's around RM40 for the original.

QUOTE(fleekreturn @ Oct 14 2011, 09:45 PM)
My Clutch pedal started to emit noisy sound already. Ngekkk ngekkk. Any idea on how to eliminate that irritating sound? Erghhhh
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post Oct 16 2011, 07:32 AM

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manual usually NEVER wrong when it comes to specifications... tongue.gif

as prev post mentioned, make sure you start the engine and get it to warm operating temp (thermostat opened) so that coolant can circulate. there will be air pockets in the system and you don't want to find out later on the highway seeing the temp going up tongue.gif

that's called burping the car engine smile.gif

QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 15 2011, 08:00 PM)
i had to flush 5 times till d water clear n then fill wit coolant + filtered water... i think d manual wrong la.. i onli manage to pour in around 2L filtered water n 1.5L of coolant included reservoir.. means it around 3.5L-4L onli... but in manual stated 5L...
any1 wan 500ml caltex coolant let me noe.. sellin lo...
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post Oct 16 2011, 10:54 AM

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disclaimer: i'm not a mechanic, just DIY.

my way of flushing the cooling system.

1. remove thermostat - you need to buy the thermostat gasket + some thermostat sealant in preparation
2. fix back without thermostat
3. add in radiator flush to radiator and start engine, let it run for a while until warm or follow instructions on bottle
4. let engine cool down, remove radiator plug at bottom and let all drain out.
5. fill with water, and repeat cycle maybe 2-3 times to make sure all radiator flush cleared out from system.
6. wait for engine to completely cool down (few hours!). for final 'rinse', remove top radiator hose from engine block side.
7. start engine and fill water FROM top of radiator so that fresh clean water can go through entire system, it will come out from top of engine block where you removed the hose (that's where the water goes back into radiator on top then goes back into engine block via bottom hose.
8. now flush out all coolant, install back thermostat + gasket and fill up with water + coolant.

while doing #7 above, don't hard rev the engine, just idle should do but monitor the temp. also make sure engine truly cool down, because you don't want cool water getting to hot hot engine, not a good scenario to be in.

very very elaborate, i don't even know worth the time and effort sometimes tongue.gif only do it very very rarely smile.gif

p/s: oh to add, for step #7, please COVER the distributor with plastic to protect from water splash. otherwise after done this, your car won't be able to start. learnt this the HARD way tongue.gif tongue.gif


QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 16 2011, 09:36 AM)
try 13" steel rim bro. darn fuel sayin la...lol...
ya. got it run for quite sometime wit radiator cap opended  nod.gif
lol... i guess some water still inside engine coz when flushin i swtich off engine makin d pump not workin. so mayb can say d concentration of coolant is 1.5L: 3.5L  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
lol..burping engine.. like after eat heavy heavy.. i guess all air pocket come out d gua... let it run some time  after pour in coolant n water...hopefully no air pocket liao..  icon_question.gif
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post Oct 17 2011, 04:14 PM

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i went from stock rim 175/70r13 to proton rim 14" with 185/60r14 and didn't notice any diff in fuel consumption. just to share this info.
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post Oct 18 2011, 10:00 PM

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I'm also using performax with standard spring, feel it's a bit hard but i think quite good but then again, i'm not a motorhead wink.gif

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post Oct 18 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 18 2011, 10:26 PM)
issit short stroke? since performax spring is lowered...
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Sorry bro, no idea... Only can tell you i'm using it with my standard springs and seems ok xcept a bit stiff for me. Should have gone for normal kayaba gas or something... But i guess handling is a bit better and cornering too.
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post Oct 19 2011, 07:41 AM

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this one? smile.gif it's cheap that's for sure... make sure no bad history (e.g. taxi before as you said, or worse major accident before), if you're looking for cheap car/min depreciation, i think you can't go wrong with iswara but do shop around and make sure it's not a problematic car.

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Iswara+Sedan+1+...GV-11907154.htm

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post Oct 19 2011, 09:13 AM

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unfortunately i didn't measure before/after, so i don't know if lowered.... i don't feel it's lower though

QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Oct 19 2011, 08:53 AM)
oo... do ur car lowered after install it?
any pic? factory stamp need see wat?
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post Oct 23 2011, 04:34 PM

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ori i think around RM160. local one is about RM60. i just recently changed to local one, ok for me but i guess ori will be nicer.

quite easy to diy change. i think 2-3 screws only all visible from top when you open the bonnet. then you need to transplant the light bulb + holder from old to new housing.
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post Nov 7 2011, 02:40 PM

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does iswara have built in reverse sensor module? i bought mine from ebay (china) and installed myself. not too difficult but routing the wire from the back to the dashboard meter is difficult without removing the seat. mine has led display, showing distance and amber/red warning leds as i get close. i think around RM50 only + diy free smile.gif but i personally think it's quite difficult to diy, need at least 1/2 day as you need to remove bumper and wire everything up nicely, so if you can get installer to do for you say RM30-50 i'd suggest that. on average I guess reverse sensor should cost about RM100-130 incl. installation.
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post Nov 7 2011, 05:10 PM

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it's not complicated smile.gif the control box has the sockets for the power, monitor/display, and the 2 or 4 sensors. just plug and play! the complicated part is just in routing the wiring smile.gif the one i'm using is EXACTLY like the one in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNNxAvdiHw

QUOTE(cyanboy @ Nov 7 2011, 04:53 PM)
For your type with distance display all those one I'll let the installer install it if I bought that. That is more complicated dy.
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post Nov 7 2011, 09:37 PM

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More than 300? Are you serious? Wow those acc shop really making a fortune! I should also start part time install reverse sensor with lcd display...

QUOTE(cyanboy @ Nov 7 2011, 08:44 PM)
Yea, the wiring is hectic to draw the wire all the way to dash. So didn't opt for that one as that one cost more than 300 is setapak.  doh.gif
1985: Half car go into water, go off road like 4X4 pun takde problem.
1986: Built quality good, won't fall apart so easily but can't go into water dy?
1988: What the $8999?
1993: Go to beach sprinkle water is the most you do to your new saga, go more than that then takde guarantee...

Rock LMST like 1986 ad  shakehead.gif  I scare suspension kong, front grill crack, tayar cabut, door handle patah...
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post Nov 8 2011, 10:58 AM

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mine is 4 point sensor but i install only 2.... RM50... so looks like big big profit for the acc shops!

QUOTE(cyanboy @ Nov 8 2011, 12:19 AM)
Yeap, nearly RM200 for 2 point, same boxing and items and the brothers RM38. The RM300 is the LCD one is a 4 point reverse sensor.

Go part time la, can kira murah sikit when Saga/Iswara forumer's install accessories.... icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 9 2011, 09:19 AM

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fantastic and very good explanation!! rclxms.gif just to add the entire cooling system is pressurized, so if you have a leak somewhere, it will cause a loss in pressure and that may cause problems. So check that all hoses are clamped properly, make sure there are no leaks and as I've read somewhere, one of the easiest, first thing you can do is check and replace the radiator cap. Sometimes problems are caused by an old, worn out radiator cap. Doesn't cost much go to the spare part shop and buy the correct cap and try.

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 8 2011, 11:59 PM)
when temperature gets hot, pressure inside radiator will increase... when the pressure exceeds the radiator cap, the valve will open and allows pressure/steam to relief into the tupperware via the small hose.... when temperature slowly drops, water from the tupperware will be sucked back into the radiator to replace back the lost steam/gas which was released earlier...
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:31 AM

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seems slightly overpriced but if tip top condition i guess it's fair

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